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Spoilers for a terrible thing: Lucius becomes convinced that Fulgrim has been possessed by a daemon so along with Fabius and others capture him and plan to torture the daemon out of him, including using such colorful methods like pear of anguish on his anus while the presumably slaaneshi daemon is having the time of its life. Oh, and after the reveal that he's DUNDUNDUN really Fulgrim all along he breaks free off his bonds by himself and admits he was playing along for shits and giggles.
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EyeRChris posted:Well lets look at the personality aspects of the known primarchs and pick which ones are lacking. I figure one of the lost primarchs was an inventor. The Scientist aspect of the Emperor. He created his world into a Utopia that surpasses the Imperium and had tech that made the tech of mars look like childs play. After the Emperor showed that by absorbing it he'd ruin the world the Primarch made he rebelled for the good of his people. The entire planet and all its tech was crushed under the weight of 3 legions. I figured Mag us for the scientist. The problem is we don't have anything fleshing out a few of them like ferrous man us and vulkan, and are unlikely to get any now that the focus is on battles as they move toward Terra and not the setup
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Magnus was a scholar and an echo of his psychic might; Vulkan and Perturabo were tech heads. Perturabo in particular, as Vulkan was more of an artisan.
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Fried Chicken posted:I figured Mag us for the scientist. I'm ok with this since it'll inevitably result in a lot of Primarch v Primarch and Legion v Legion which is always fun. I wouldn't mind more Mechanicus focused stories, or general Imperial Guard stories, especially from the traitor's perspective. Horus managed to get a good portion of the Guard to follow him, didn't he?
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EyeRChris posted:Well lets look at the personality aspects of the known primarchs and pick which ones are lacking. I figure one of the lost primarchs was an inventor. Big Willy Style posted:I got halfway throught the first story in The Primarchs and it loving sucks and has sapped all of my will to read rest of the anthology. Should I continue? VanSandman posted:Horus managed to get a good portion of the Guard to follow him, didn't he? berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Dec 26, 2012 |
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The Guard was The Imperial Army back then, and large parts of the Army acted as support to the legions, but my understanding was that the Imperial Army as such was independent of the Legiones Astartes. As for why large parts of the army followed Horus, all the primarchs and him especially had a metric shitton of charisma. It's not hard to see how higherups in any hierarchy can be swayed by charisma and promises of power, and any dissent in the ranks can be solved with some housecleaning.
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Khadhul posted:The Guard was The Imperial Army back then, and large parts of the Army acted as support to the legions, but my understanding was that the Imperial Army as such was independent of the Legiones Astartes. As for why large parts of the army followed Horus, all the primarchs and him especially had a metric shitton of charisma. It's not hard to see how higherups in any hierarchy can be swayed by charisma and promises of power, and any dissent in the ranks can be solved with some housecleaning. No, at the time the Astartes are very much at the top of the Imperial command hierarchy. That's how Horus ended up with the title 'Warmaster' - he was formally in command. Around the end of the Great Crusade/start of the Heresy the Emperor creates the Council of Terra and that, combined with the removal from play of all the Primarchs and the breaking of the Legions into Chapters is what properly changes the Imperium into a series of factions that no one person can control.
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Just finished Double Eagle. Christ, that was a fun read. Now I'm on to the third-string writers, having read most of the books in the OP... and I find out that Pariah is out? Dangit, Black Library... I just started Imperial Glory, and also bought Gunheads, now I've got that to add into things. I'm curious about a few things I don't see on the list and haven't seen discussed a whole lot: Are there any good books featuring the Death Korps of Krieg? I love them in the fluff, especially since they seem to have that WW1 vibe going on. Also, is anyone having problems with the iOS Black Library app? It's not showing me new releases anymore, which is very annoying.
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SquadronROE posted:I'm curious about a few things I don't see on the list and haven't seen discussed a whole lot: Are there any good books featuring the Death Korps of Krieg? I love them in the fluff, especially since they seem to have that WW1 vibe going on. Dead Men Walking by Steve Lyons is about the Death Korps, but it's not supposed to be that good. There's also that short story from Chapter Approved 2003 which completely owns.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Dead Men Walking by Steve Lyons is about the Death Korps, but it's not supposed to be that good. There's also that short story from Chapter Approved 2003 which completely owns. Yeah, I read that short story and liked it a lot despite the typos. I love the idea that they lose so many people that they are allowed to basically use cloning to churn out troops.
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Nephilm posted:Spoilers for a terrible thing: Lucius becomes convinced that Fulgrim has been possessed by a daemon so along with Fabius and others capture him and plan to torture the daemon out of him, including using such colorful methods like pear of anguish on his anus while the presumably slaaneshi daemon is having the time of its life. Well, that's definitely a thing. Why would anyone think that's a good idea to write about? And it's even paired with a bad plot twist.
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Nephilm posted:Hey, Mechafunkzilla, why haven't you added Betrayer to the OP? Haven't really been paying attention since the paperback doesn't come out until April, and as such I won't be reading it until then. I'll throw it up there.
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I can't find anything reliable... does it look like there's ever going to be another Gaunt's Ghosts book? They left the last with a lot of loose threads.
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Hm, apparently Steve Parker, author of the totally rad Gunheads and the still-readable but considerably less rad Rynn's World is coming out with a Deathwatch book in May. Gonna keep an eye on that. Rob Sanders needs to write another book already.
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SquadronROE posted:I can't find anything reliable... does it look like there's ever going to be another Gaunt's Ghosts book? They left the last with a lot of loose threads. Are there characters people like who are still alive? Then yes. (besides it brings in enough for black library to have a scrooge esqu.money bin.)
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bunnyofdoom posted:Are there characters people like who are still alive? Then yes. BL probably has Abnett churning out HH books, since those are probably the bigger money makers right now.
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SquadronROE posted:
It isn't BL and they aren't novels, but the Seige of Vracks books by forge world are volume on volume of Death Korps action.
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berzerkmonkey posted:BL probably has Abnett churning out HH books, since those are probably the bigger money makers right now. HH, Bequin, and a big super secret project that will change everything that he is pushing the limits of his NDA by even saying there is a big super secret project that will change everything
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Fried Chicken posted:...and a big super secret project that will change everything that he is pushing the limits of his NDA by even saying there is a big super secret project that will change everything
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berzerkmonkey posted:Hmmm, I've not heard of this project... there was a link to an interview about it and a discussion many pages back (October-ish?). People here were speculating, leading theories were either advancing the storyline or revealing the 2 primarchs. Personally I'm guessing it is the introduction of a new race, since 6th edition is rolling out and I don't see them doing those leading theories.
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Fried Chicken posted:there was a link to an interview about it and a discussion many pages back (October-ish?). People here were speculating, leading theories were either advancing the storyline or revealing the 2 primarchs. Personally I'm guessing it is the introduction of a new race, since 6th edition is rolling out and I don't see them doing those leading theories. Codex: Jokaero
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I can't think of a good reason for GW to ever advance the storyline much at all, so I'm leaning towards the missing primarch reveals or the new race. Is there anything currently in the fluff which could be expanded into a whole new race, like how the Genestealers became the Tyranids?
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VanSandman posted:I can't think of a good reason for GW to ever advance the storyline much at all, so I'm leaning towards the missing primarch reveals or the new race. Is there anything currently in the fluff which could be expanded into a whole new race, like how the Genestealers became the Tyranids? Codex: Darker Eldar or, in seriousness, Codex: Mutants
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VanSandman posted:I can't think of a good reason for GW to ever advance the storyline much at all, so I'm leaning towards the missing primarch reveals or the new race. As for another race, GW has enough to do with the races they currently support (barely.) Adding an additional race would require an additional army from the game side (since they would never miss an opportunity to make money), and that isn't going to happen - they've stated that they are content with the current armies in the game. In addition, the Tau and Eldar codexes are over seven years old - they would need to update those before bringing out a new race. berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Dec 27, 2012 |
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This missing Primarchs are there to provide 'space' for people to come up with their own unique Space Marine chapters if they want. They could actually kill the Emperor completely and unequivocally start the universe into a slide towards everyone's endgame (even if they never have to reach it). Or they could do something like bring the Ultramarines Primarch back. The setting can remain incredibly grimdark but they can shift the theme to an Imperium that's going down kicking and fighting 300 style.
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Alchenar posted:This missing Primarchs are there to provide 'space' for people to come up with their own unique Space Marine chapters if they want. Or instead of bringing Roboute back, the Lion wakes up and starts being a jerk to everyone as he is wont to do. e: I'm actually kind of surprised there isn't a Codex: Mechanicus yet.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Codex: Wood Eldar Finally! An exodite list!
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Let's be real though, Abnett's secret project will be about Cypher reaching Terra and suicide bombing the Emperor.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Or instead of bringing Roboute back, the Lion wakes up and starts being a jerk to everyone as he is wont to do. Roboute coming back to fight the Tyranids would be really cool. And it could kickstart the storyline of the Emperors ascent or death. Roboute coming back would just be the sign of things going for a massive change, while still keeping him out of the way story wise, busy fighting off the Tyranids.
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Demiurge4 posted:Roboute coming back to fight the Tyranids would be really cool. And it could kickstart the storyline of the Emperors ascent or death. Roboute coming back would just be the sign of things going for a massive change, while still keeping him out of the way story wise, busy fighting off the Tyranids. But it would probably be written horribly and everything would be good again because this one dude showed up and told everyone how to do things. Mechafunkzilla posted:Let's be real though, Abnett's secret project will be about Cypher reaching Terra and suicide bombing the Emperor.
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What if it's more than one primach. Roboute wakes up and Ultramar sucedes from the Imperium. Lion and Leman returns from the warp. Mutual distrust of each other causes them to declare war on each other. The Salamanders retrieve all the Artifacts. Corax returns having perfected the cloning poo poo but gone insane.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Codex: Administratum Codex: PDF
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