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DickEmery posted:You mean Henry's your favourite not that he's better than Zidane, right?
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DickEmery posted:You mean Henry's your favourite not that he's better than Zidane, right? Absolutely yeah, even if I'm not crazy enough to believe that Henry was the best ever. E - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxJlk_1VxvU
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Dec 27, 2012 19:12
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Abu Dave posted:He's not the best ever but it's a drat shame that most people associate Cantona with birds or kung fu fan assault instead of his great playing. Even I liked Cantona That's mainly because he retired in 1997 and any media narrative following him unless you're a United fan with archive videos, or old enough to remember, is pretty much the hooligan he booted or the seagulls quote. Cantona -is- one of the best the Premier League has seen, he was hamstrung in Europe by the daft foreign players rule and Ferguson still not getting it quite right in the Champions League by the time Cantona left, I've always considered it a great shame that it was only two years after Cantona retired that United won the treble. He didn't only take a United side that hadn't threatened for the league in 25 years/won it in 26 and raise it almost single handedly to a double winning juggernaut, he helped to inspire and bring through the class of 92. Ferguson gets the credit for the Beckham/Giggs/Scholes era but they wouldn't have been anything close to as good as they became if not for Cantona. There's a reason he, more than any other past great, is still sung about regularly in the stands and it's not because of booting hooligans or trolling the press. It's because he brought things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJykcGfF_Ek and things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6JULy5_ox4 It didn't matter who he was partnered with, Hughes, McClair, Cole, Solskjaer, he helped them shine and even in his bad games he was often the difference between a win or dropping points. It's no surprise Ferguson put up with more from Cantona than he has or would from any other player and more often than not Cantona rewarded that patience in spades on the pitch. I grew up watching him and despite players like Messi today and last generation's Zidane and even Paul Scholes who many on this forum know I've got a massive hardon for, I only ever had one hero and that was Cantona.
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Laudrup is criminally underrated in this generation as well. Great player.
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Dec 27, 2012 19:22
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Do they sell posters of him doing that turn after that one goal vs sunderland? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAOUgmRXsc Because I would want one of those as I think next to AGUEROOOO it's one of the most awe-inspiring moments in the PL. You can just feel the power shift and he realizes he's the harbringer of the death of football. 
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Zidane is a legend and he did everything he did without growth hormones or mutant thighs or cocaine or viagra ads. He did not need to be a narcisistic media figure, fake-modest midget, fat cokehead or pharmaceutical spokesman to be a star. Some see the headbutt as a smudge in his career, but if headbutting a oval office is a sin then see you in hell Zizou! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP7aeZs5hKU
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Abu Dave posted:You can just feel the power shift and he realizes he's the harbringer of the death of football. Shift? That was his last season at United, the power had well and truly shifted. The AGUEROOOOOOOO moment for United was the Steve Bruce goal against Sheffield Wednesday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p3zfAHV0yI Anything other than a win would have given United an almost impossible task to claim that first title win.
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Ninpo posted:Cantona -is- one of the best the Premier League has seen Agreed. Cantona is one of the most gifted players to ever play in the Premier League and definitely the most important to his team. Also that Sunderland goal is my favourite football memory of all time. Only "... and Solskjaer has won it!" comes close.
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Ninpo posted:Shift? That was his last season at United, the power had well and truly shifted. The AGUEROOOOOOOO moment for United was the Steve Bruce goal against Sheffield Wednesday: it's fuckin mental that Brian Kidd of all people was there for both
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Drogadon posted:Zidane is a legend and he did everything he did without growth hormones or mutant thighs or cocaine or viagra ads. He did not need to be a narcisistic media figure, fake-modest midget, fat cokehead or pharmaceutical spokesman to be a star. Some see the headbutt as a smudge in his career, but if headbutting a oval office is a sin then see you in hell Zizou! I love Zidane but if you're implying Messi's legitimate growth hormones are a stain on his legacy or whatever surely you've got to remember Zidane admitted Juventus hooked him up to what was probably something illegal back in the day.
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Der Shovel posted:"... and Solskjaer has won it!" This is on loop in the treble area of the United museum (not just that, a short highlight reel of that final) and it never fails to give me goosebumps. I was in a small living room in Portsmouth, on my own, watching that final and screamed myself hoarse by the time Solsjkaer made the kneeslide that hosed up his career.
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Eau de MacGowan posted:it's fuckin mental that Brian Kidd of all people was there for both Didn't he play for both clubs as well? It did cross my mind when I saw him leaping about in May.
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Ninpo posted:Shift? That was his last season at United, the power had well and truly shifted. The AGUEROOOOOOOO moment for United was the Steve Bruce goal against Sheffield Wednesday: let's just never forget that arsenal did it better than all of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L85wbuePV8w 'dalglish just stands there'
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tbp posted:I love Zidane but if you're implying Messi's legitimate growth hormones are a stain on his legacy or whatever surely you've got to remember Zidane admitted Juventus hooked him up to what was probably something illegal back in the day. I don't want to get into a Messi shitstorm, it's just a silly post about a player I like.
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Ninpo posted:This is on loop in the treble area of the United museum (not just that, a short highlight reel of that final) and it never fails to give me goosebumps. Yeah same here. I can still hear it perfectly in my head and get goosebumps every time I think about it.
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Drogadon posted:Zidane is a legend and he did everything he did without growth hormones or mutant thighs or cocaine or viagra ads. He did not need to be a narcisistic media figure, fake-modest midget, fat cokehead or pharmaceutical spokesman to be a star. Some see the headbutt as a smudge in his career, but if headbutting a oval office is a sin then see you in hell Zizou! Those United CL games were what made me fall in love with Zidance, Del Piero and Juve.
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luvd posted:Those United CL games were what made me fall in love with Zidance, Del Piero and Juve. Loved the mini rivalry with Juventus in the CL and that semi final is why I'll never, ever, say a bad thing about Keane.
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So many of these goals seem to be first-time shots. Beaten the defence, could dribble the stationary keeper or sidestep the onrushing one but no, he has to take the shot. It's certainly something different from the other geniuses.
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Ninpo posted:Loved the mini rivalry with Juventus in the CL and that semi final is why I'll never, ever, say a bad thing about Keane. Three weird things I can remember about United in that era in the CL: - The lob scored for Juve (by Alen Boksic?) - That wondersave against Rapid Vienna - The save against Zamoranos diving header
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Ninpo posted:Shift? That was his last season at United, the power had well and truly shifted. The AGUEROOOOOOOO moment for United was the Steve Bruce goal against Sheffield Wednesday: Is this what caused those crazy Sheffield Wednesday fans to go mental and still cry about United on 606? Also my favorite King Kenny and Wenger moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WQH-bBu2ug
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Abu Dave posted:Is this what caused those crazy Sheffield Wednesday fans to go mental and still cry about United on 606? Probably. There was something like 10 minutes of added time in that match because the referee had to go off the pitch for treatment iirc and Bruce got what is now known as a Fergie time winner. Ref was off the pitch for about nine minutes.
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luvd posted:Dalglish is a classless oval office of a man. Glaswegian that's spent a lot of time in Liverpool, that was practically polite luvd.
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luvd posted:Dalglish is a classless oval office of a man. Please shut the gently caress up
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T. Mascis posted:Please shut the gently caress up Thought you'd appreciate that. He was a wonderful player but he's a nasty, bitter old man IMO. 
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luvd posted:Thought you'd appreciate that. He was a wonderful player but he's a nasty, bitter old man IMO. You don't know what you're talking about. Please post pictures or videos. Thanks.
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Vegetable posted:So many of these goals seem to be first-time shots. Beaten the defence, could dribble the stationary keeper or sidestep the onrushing one but no, he has to take the shot. It's certainly something different from the other geniuses. One of my favourite "stories" related to Cantona is this one: Yorke anecdote posted:Keane was always good at cutting down to size those he suspected did not fully understand what it meant to play for the club. Dwight Yorke experienced something similar, also in his first training game, when Keane booted the ball at him, deliberately too hard, and the new signing miscontrolled it. "Welcome to United," Keane hissed with that Tommy DeVito stare. "Cantona used to kill them."
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Ninpo posted:One of my favourite "stories" related to Cantona is this one: He used to kill Keane's passes? Cantona signed for United before Keane even arrived... that doesn't seem right.
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vickser posted:He used to kill Keane's passes? Cantona signed for United before Keane even arrived... that doesn't seem right. What?
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Stumbled upon this and it's still a great goal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM4O4Da4sDI I remember watching it live and it was pretty crazy. Would really like to see him play around top players, he deserves far better. He was so depressed against Stoke 
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His dribbling is utterly fantastic.
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Vegetable posted:Stumbled upon this and it's still a great goal Someone has to post that Paul Merson clip where he talks about how Suarez being poo poo or something.
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Ninpo posted:cantona Cantona was the "guy who got me really into soccer/football" which was pretty cool being from 'Merica. Also, I really miss muddy pitches.
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Laudrup was an absolutely brilliant player. One of the finest ever. Goddamn, he treated the football like an extension of himself.
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I think a lot of it is that a lot of younger fans have this weird selective memory where anything from the 70s/80s (before they were born) gets overromanticised and anything from the 90s (especially if it happened outside of the Premier League) they sort of take for granted. For content, have some goals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYmXsJKMBps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwvzNtDRZLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yead_lGv_rE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvJ62cqrYy4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmJ5THDNpNs How nice were those Juve shirts with the stars on the shoulders?
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