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MononcQc
May 29, 2007

the talent deficit posted:

serge aleynikov was the erlang dude at goldman and i'm pretty sure they stopped using it after they had the fbi arrest him and send him to jail

afaik the judgement was overturned, he was acquitted and Aleynikov posted on the mailing lists again in 2012.

Also I don't think Goldman Sachs ever mentioned Erlang before or after the incident, so I don't know if they still use it or not.


Jerry SanDisky posted:

erlang status: its cool and i want to go work for goldman sachs now?

working from mono's book (which owns and i am going to pay money for) and Programming Erlang by Armstrong

Glad you're liking it.

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Opinion Haver
Apr 9, 2007

fidel sarcastro posted:

just learned about smart matching in perl with ~~

this is sorcery :stare:

this seems like the worst kind of magic

Posting Principle
Dec 10, 2011

by Ralp

MononcQc posted:

Glad you're liking it.

my only complaint is the worm image you use to to illustrate cons

worms don't work that way, they die :(

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

Jerry SanDisky posted:

my only complaint is the worm image you use to to illustrate cons

worms don't work that way, they die :(

this will go right next to Richard O'Keefe's complaint regarding the number of tentacles on a squid

vapid cutlery
Apr 17, 2007

php:
<?
"it's george costanza" ?>
octopi have 1 byte of tentacles

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

fidel sarcastro posted:

just learned about smart matching in perl with ~~

this is sorcery :stare:

lol. glad you like this feature php has had since forever

Meiwaku
Jan 10, 2011

Fun for the whole family!

vapid cutlery posted:

octopi have 1 byte of tentacles

In other words, 1/4 on 486?

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror
if you enjoy perl's smart matching, consider php, a language with an equality operator that doesn't behave like an autist by default

vapid cutlery
Apr 17, 2007

php:
<?
"it's george costanza" ?>

Tiny Bug Child posted:

if you enjoy perl's smart matching, consider php, a language with an equality operator that doesn't behave like an autist by default

shut up already

the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture





MononcQc posted:

afaik the judgement was overturned, he was acquitted and Aleynikov posted on the mailing lists again in 2012.

Also I don't think Goldman Sachs ever mentioned Erlang before or after the incident, so I don't know if they still use it or not.

he got arrested again in july and was arraigned in september. also they were using erlang in their stack in some capacity, cause the source code serge 'stole' was mostly erlang

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

the talent deficit posted:

he got arrested again in july and was arraigned in september. also they were using erlang in their stack in some capacity, cause the source code serge 'stole' was mostly erlang

Ah, didn't know for July and September. I know they used Erlang given he 'stole' that code, but have no idea if there were any statement on their use of it outside of that case.

vapid cutlery
Apr 17, 2007

php:
<?
"it's george costanza" ?>

MononcQc posted:

Ah, didn't know for July and September. I know they used Erlang given he 'stole' that code, but have no idea if there were any statement on their use of it outside of that case.

apparently the guy that's trying to get him in trouble this time is the same guy that tried to do it last time. goldman sachs is pissed

Mightaswell
Dec 4, 2003

Not now chief, I'm in the fuckin' zone.
Uhg today at work I had to use HTML to edit some web forms cause the web janitor who usually does it is on vacation and uhg it was terrible how do people work with screens full of jibberish all day

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

Mightaswell posted:

how do people work with screens full of jibberish all day

eclipse, usually

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Tiny Bug Child posted:

eclipse, usually
i thought they liked IntelliJ idea or visual studio for screens full of gibberish

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->

Tiny Bug Child posted:

if you enjoy perl's smart matching, consider php, a language with an equality operator that doesn't behave like an autist by default

lol

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->

Mightaswell posted:

Uhg today at work I had to use HTML to edit some web forms cause the web janitor who usually does it is on vacation and uhg it was terrible how do people work with screens full of jibberish all day

drugs

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean

Fun Shoe

vapid cutlery posted:

apparently the guy that's trying to get him in trouble this time is the same guy that tried to do it last time. goldman sachs is pissed

double jeopardy bitch trebek!

cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001

so with all the erlang chat are there any open source pbx/telephone things actually written in erlang that are good?

I found this bad boy, yxa, but it appears no one actually uses it or it's very unpopular

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



Tiny Bug Child posted:

if you enjoy perl's smart matching, consider php, a language with an equality operator that doesn't behave like an autist by default

php:
<?
empty("0") === true
?>
not autistic at all

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



i hate php SO MUCH

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

Nomnom Cookie posted:

php:
<?
empty("0") === true
?>
not autistic at all

jesus christ i don't even know where to begin with this poo poo

- i'm not sure what you're even trying to do with this solitary, unadorned comparison that does nothing

- you can't give empty() a constant, so this will just throw an error

- i'm guessing the complaint is that empty() returns true when you give it 0 as a string even though this is logical and documented behavior. empty() is for detecting "non-empty, non-zero" variables. you gave it zero. what do you think it's going to give you back.

why do people who bitch about php always know nothing about it

double sulk
Jul 2, 2010

Tiny Bug Child posted:

why do people who bitch about php always know nothing about it

because the people who use it know even less

Opinion Haver
Apr 9, 2007

why would you call a function empty that also returns false on 0

that's loving stupid

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

yaoi prophet posted:

why would you call a function empty that also returns false on 0

that's loving stupid

what? empty returns true on 0. i just said that

Opinion Haver
Apr 9, 2007

i meant "0"

double sulk
Jul 2, 2010

gas

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

zero is zero is zero. it doesn't matter how it's represented.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Tiny Bug Child posted:

zero is zero is zero. it doesn't matter how it's represented.


rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
can we not do this plz? tia (Thanks In Advance)

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

rotor posted:

can we not do this plz? tia (Thanks In Advance)

yes. let's please not cut off what could be a p. good discussion about how restrictive and unnecessary types are with dumb white noise "gas" posts.

Catalyst-proof
May 11, 2011

better waste some time with you

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Tiny Bug Child posted:

yes. let's please not cut off what could be a p. good discussion about how restrictive and unnecessary types are with dumb white noise "gas" posts.

no I meant can we please not have exactly that discussion.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
again.

Opinion Haver
Apr 9, 2007

poo poo i'm too tired to be shaggared

i've been playing around with reactive programming frameworks in haskell and they all seem pretty interesting. it's always interesting trying to see the analogous design patterns for traditionally OO stuff. same w/lenses

Opinion Haver fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Dec 28, 2012

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

yaoi prophet posted:

poo poo i'm too tired to be shaggared

i've been playing around with reactive programming frameworks in haskell and they all seem pretty interesting. it's always interesting trying to see the analogous design patterns for traditionally OO stuff. same w/lenses

is there a good lens tutorial out there?

Nevergirls
Jul 4, 2004

It's not right living this way, not letting others know what's true and what's false.

yaoi prophet posted:

this seems like the worst kind of magic
It is, just look at this table:

http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop.html#Smartmatch-Operator

Except implicitly in given/when I never use it

Nevergirls
Jul 4, 2004

It's not right living this way, not letting others know what's true and what's false.
of all the things to steal from perl 6, ~~ was the dumbest

jesse vincent rightly called it psychotic match

jony neuemonic
Nov 13, 2009

Nevergirls posted:

of all the things to steal from perl 6, ~~ was the dumbest

jesse vincent rightly called it psychotic match

what's so bad about it? seems like a reasonable way to cut down on code when you're using it for something obvious (not condoning dumb obfuscated perl, here)

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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

fidel sarcastro posted:

(not condoning dumb obfuscated perl, here)

heh

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