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JULIAN ASSANGE posted:I thought that was just her being nervous about Paz thinking her and Annie are a couple. She clearly has issues about people thinking she's gay. That's what I assumed as well. I don't recall any point since "She Came From The Forest" talking about Paz being Kat's roommate.
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Them being roommates is definitely the kind of information that would have been included earlier if it were going to be important now. Looking back, though, I guess I didn't really grasp the dorm situation. Was the court counting Renard as a roommate? He should room with Winsbury now.
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Dec 27, 2012 00:14
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Haledjian posted:Them being roommates is definitely the kind of information that would have been included earlier if it were going to be important now. End of chapter page will be Renard giving Winsbury tips on flexing those guns to excite the girl in your life. 
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Dec 27, 2012 00:23
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Haledjian posted:Was the court counting Renard as a roommate? He should room with Winsbury now. Either that or they didn't want to put any other kids with a trickster god except for the one that actually controls it.
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Dec 27, 2012 00:25
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Haledjian posted:So THAT'S what those comics have been leading up to.
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Dec 27, 2012 01:29
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Ursine Asylum posted:End of chapter page will be Renard giving Winsbury tips on flexing those guns to excite the girl in your life.  Does this excite you, girl?! *rrrrip* Yes. 
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Dec 27, 2012 01:35
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Haledjian posted:Them being roommates is definitely the kind of information that would have been included earlier if it were going to be important now. I think the idea is that everyone had their own room, except now Kat and Annie will room together and Renard takes the empty room for himself. Kat looking at Paz wasn't 'they're roomies and it would be awkward to leave', it's comic shorthand to call back to Kat's insecurities since Paz was the one who brought up the topic in the first place.
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Dec 27, 2012 02:03
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This is all a ploy of Renard's so he gets a room to himself.
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Dec 27, 2012 03:18
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:This is all a ploy of Renard's so he gets a room to himself. But if Annie's not in his room, how will he find the dolls for his tea parties 
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Dec 27, 2012 03:28
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All right; this might be crazy talk or even have been discussed before but in re-reading a couple of chapters today I had an idea. What if Kat is Anja's special computer that gets mentioned here and there? Anja could have had the same ideas about the fusion of human/robot growth that Kat has and have already done it, producing Kat. The robots were freaked out that she could read their code and said no human should be able to. If she's not the computer it could be possible that she's some aspect of it. Robot also once said 'she grows more beautiful by the day'. What if he and the other robots see what Zimmy sees?
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Dec 27, 2012 05:20
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Dec 27, 2012 05:40
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TenKindsOfCrazy posted:The robots were freaked out that she could read their code and said no human should be able to. If she's not the computer it could be possible that she's some aspect of it.
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Dec 27, 2012 05:44
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Tupperwarez posted:Weeeelllll, I wouldn't go as far to say that Kat is a 'tech elemental', but I wouldn't be surprised if Kat's engineering mojo is some kind of etheric ability. Sort of like gadgeteer/inventor superheroes like Forge or Tony Stark. I mean, when she first met Annie, she could already put together an anti-grav unit. My idea is that she's something completely new, the very thing that she thinks she wants to design. So she's Anja and Don's daughter in the sense that they created her; she just wasn't born quite the way she thinks she was. I'm aware that it's a stretch, but we all know she's something special.
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Tupperwarez posted:Weeeelllll, I wouldn't go as far to say that Kat is a 'tech elemental', but I wouldn't be surprised if Kat's engineering mojo is some kind of etheric ability. Sort of like gadgeteer/inventor superheroes like Forge or Tony Stark. I mean, when she first met Annie, she could already put together an anti-grav unit. Could be she is just, y'know, really good at science. I mean, yeah an anti-grav unit sounds crazy to us in the real world, but the court has some pretty loving advanced tech too. Oh and "bird" is just British slang for a girl in certain places, that's it. Just like chick, lass etc.
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Prison Warden posted:Could be she is just, y'know, really good at science. I mean, yeah an anti-grav unit sounds crazy to us in the real world, but the court has some pretty loving advanced tech too. I dunno, it's pretty clear that Kat's ability with tech is etheric in some way. There've been a lot of heavy hints dropped here and there, especially with the fact that when people do pay attention to her crazy-good science, she blows their minds. I wouldn't go so far as to say Kat is some crazy experiment carried out by her parents, after all, the Court brings children in that show some special talent. Kat's talent is to be every bit a technological savant in ways that should be impossible.
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What the heck has Kat ever done to suggest to you all that her abilities are in any way magical? Just that one page in "Divine"? I think she's more "special" as the one character that doesn't have magical powers but is super awesome anyway.
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DontMockMySmock posted:What the heck has Kat ever done to suggest to you all that her abilities are in any way magical? Just that one page in "Divine"? Most notably, it's that her mother is a literal Etheric Magician, as noted most directly Here, but also any time Anja's "computer system" is brought up. e: Also, most of this chapter! Niton fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Dec 27, 2012 |
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Dec 27, 2012 10:51
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DontMockMySmock posted:What the heck has Kat ever done to suggest to you all that her abilities are in any way magical? Just that one page in "Divine"? Creating an antigrav device and having epiphanies of How Things Work(tm) just by looking at a pigeon wing, an air conditioner, or a datacube unreadable by humans would do it.
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Creating an antigrav device, for someone in a world where the Court exists, is not magic. it is exceptional, and indicates Kat is some kind of scientific genius, but nothing else. The Bird Wing is just her being inspired by nature, which happens to real scientists all the time. the air conditioner is just her looking at something and finding herself thinking about it's fundamental construction! The computer code used by the obots isn't somehow mystically imperceptible. The Court robots are, if i remember right, specifically pure technology, as the original golems couldn't replicate the partially etheric process Diego used. They said Kat shouldn't be able to understand it just because it was so complex. I still fail to see any definitive evidence of an etheric ability possessed by Kat, just brains. There are plenty of scientists working at the court who not only don't have etheric powers but actively disdain it's use and they STILL have incredible sci-fi technology.
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Prison Warden posted:Creating an antigrav device, for someone in a world where the Court exists, is not magic. it is exceptional, and indicates Kat is some kind of scientific genius, but nothing else. The Bird Wing is just her being inspired by nature, which happens to real scientists all the time. the air conditioner is just her looking at something and finding herself thinking about it's fundamental construction! The computer code used by the obots isn't somehow mystically imperceptible. The Court robots are, if i remember right, specifically pure technology, as the original golems couldn't replicate the partially etheric process Diego used. They said Kat shouldn't be able to understand it just because it was so complex. When she made the antigrav device for her science fair project (ABOUT CRYSTALS!) people were pretty amazed by it, Kat is definitely special, it's just a question of how special
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Prison Warden posted:I still fail to see any definitive evidence of an etheric ability possessed by Kat, just brains. There are plenty of scientists working at the court who not only don't have etheric powers but actively disdain it's use and they STILL have incredible sci-fi technology. Again: her mother is at minimum a techno-wizard, if not an actual one. It's pretty likely she shares at least some of her mother's talents.
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Niton posted:Again: her mother is at minimum a techno-wizard, if not an actual one. It's pretty likely she shares at least some of her mother's talents. In the chapter talking about mom the techo wizard, I seem to recall her bitterly making a comment about "stuff just working isn't good enough if you can't explain it entirely", which directly echoed an opinion Kat voiced to Annie a couple pages earlier. I can't really see Kat delving into the etheric side of things much unless she gets to the point where she can explain it in it's entirely w/r/t what she's doing with it.
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Dec 27, 2012 16:25
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Dec 27, 2012 18:28
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Ursine Asylum posted:But if Annie's not in his room, how will he find the dolls for his tea parties The dolls are Kat's anyway. She'll probably keep loaning him them.
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Ah, Christmas, when I have some time to work through my backlog of "Webcomics to check out". Everyone raves about this Gunnerkrigg Court thing, and there are a lot of avatars based on it, so I might as well check it out... Now my wife's been wondering why I've been ignoring the family so much. I'm really enjoying this, aside from finally hitting the "present". I usually hate having mountains of archives to sift through, but now I'm wishing there were more. Has Tom indicated about how long he anticipates the story to run?
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Dec 28, 2012 06:21
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I don't know if it's because I haven't done a reread in a while, but it seems Tom is making these two seem more mature, somehow. When they met they were two little girls, but now they seem to be becoming who they are. Maybe he's just drawing them taller/better, but it's a neat effect to notice. 
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Dec 28, 2012 09:22
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If I might post my own crazy theory for a second, I have been rereading some of the old chapters and came across this: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=646 The robots see the TicTocs as being older than the court, and sent by the a deity to watch over the court. The TicTocs are robotic and not controlled by the court, plus the only active role they have played in the comic so far is to actively save Annie's life. In light of what could be seen as the deification of Kat by the robots, and the fact that that human (and robot?) belief seems to be retroactive, could the creation of the TicTocs be in some way related to that? Whether sort of poofing into existence at some point through the robots belief in an Angel, or I dunno, being sent back in time by Kat? It's not as if Kat doesn't have a thing about birds...
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After reading the archive of this comic yesterday I have to say I've found one very, very major flaw in it - It's way too short. Aside from that though - this is a great read. I guess I now have another thing to follow! T-man posted:I don't know if it's because I haven't done a reread in a while, but it seems Tom is making these two seem more mature, somehow. When they met they were two little girls, but now they seem to be becoming who they are. Maybe he's just drawing them taller/better, but it's a neat effect to notice. Well several years have passed in the story, so it makes sense they'd grow taller and start looking less like children and more like young women.
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Jenx posted:Well several years have passed in the story, so it makes sense they'd grow taller and start looking less like children and more like young women. I think it's also their clothes- both in how they've been moving away from the sweater/skirt uniform, but also how their regular styles have changed. I've got a younger sister who's just a few years older than Kat and Annie and their styles actually matched up pretty well I think (although I wasn't really paying that much attention...) edit: Also, anyone want to bet that this chapter or maybe the next will be the last one in vol 4? Each vol seems to be about 250-300 pages and we're closing in on that if not there already, so seems likely. And 'Changes' sounds pretty dramatic and totally like an end of vol. chapter name. Mazerunner fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Dec 28, 2012 |
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Goatmask posted:In light of what could be seen as the deification of Kat by the robots, and the fact that that human (and robot?) belief seems to be retroactive, could the creation of the TicTocs be in some way related to that? Whether sort of poofing into existence at some point through the robots belief in an Angel, or I dunno, being sent back in time by Kat? This is a great theory! I think it has a lot of potential, and seems to fit with what we know so far. I wonder - if Kat sent them back - what did she send them back for? To find out some mystery about the founding of the court?
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Axiem posted:Has Tom indicated about how long he anticipates the story to run? The only thing I can think of is that there are five years of school, and we're now in the third. Of course, the comic doesn't necessarily have to end at the end of secondary schooling/sixth form.
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I imagine that this formal occasion Annie is stressing about is related to the announcement of the new medium. Lots of changes gonna happen this chapter!
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Axiem posted:Has Tom indicated about how long he anticipates the story to run? For ever and ever! I might even sell my soul to get a planet-destroying high-paying job, of cracking open bedrock using carcinogenic chemicals to give gas to power humanity's energy greed, just to keep Tom in business. (Drat, now I'm associating myself with that obsessive fan from that Stephen King book who kidnaps the writer and forces him to write books.) Anyway, there are many many issues still to resolve. I will be patient and enjoy every moment.
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Haledjian posted:Is that Paz creeping in panel 4? It does look like her silhouette. I like Paz and hope she isn't going to be all weird and meddle-y about this whole thing.
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TenKindsOfCrazy posted:It does look like her silhouette. I like Paz and hope she isn't going to be all weird and meddle-y about this whole thing. This. I like you, Paz! Don't go all ChibiSoma on us! There are more important things in life than schoolgirl lesbians!
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I lost interest in Doctor Disaster and skipped to the next chapter, and subsequently skipped every Spacemonauts chapter in the archives. Have I missed any plot, or am I right to approach them as stand-alone adventures?
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:I lost interest in Doctor Disaster and skipped to the next chapter, and subsequently skipped every Spacemonauts chapter in the archives. Have I missed any plot, or am I right to approach them as stand-alone adventures? Next you'll tell us you skipped over the City Face, too.
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:I lost interest in Doctor Disaster and skipped to the next chapter, and subsequently skipped every Spacemonauts chapter in the archives. Have I missed any plot, or am I right to approach them as stand-alone adventures? Don't skip over Spacemonauts. You're missing out.
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