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Unlucky7 posted:I just got the classic dooms. Should I just jump into this Brutal Doom thing, or play them as they originally were? With gzdoom, of course. You pretty much owe it to yourself to play the original episodes vanilla style.
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Not to mention playing the classic megawads as they were designed. (Alien Vendetta, Scythe 1/2, etc)
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Unlucky7 posted:I just got the classic dooms. Should I just jump into this Brutal Doom thing, or play them as they originally were? With gzdoom, of course. Play it vanilla first. Then - if you feel like replaying it, or if you're having trouble getting into it vanilla - try Brutal Doom. Also, once you start trying out third-party megawads, be aware that a lot of them are very finely balanced and will often become much harder than intended when played with Brutal Doom. The original episodes are a lot more forgiving in this regard.
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Dec 31, 2012 20:59
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I'm really impressed with the updated Doom launchers and Brutal Doom. Loads of carnage. If only they could produce something similar for LucasArts Outlaws...
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LLCoolJD posted:I'm really impressed with the updated Doom launchers and Brutal Doom. Loads of carnage. If only they could produce something similar for LucasArts Outlaws... I know it's pretty inconsistent and almost vaporware, but the DarkXL engine is supposed to be adding Outlaws support eventually. Eventually. Edit- didn't pay attention to what your post meant, just saw Outlaws and posted. >.< man in the eyeball hat fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Dec 31, 2012 |
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:I know that I'm drifting dangerously close to TFR territory here, but my anticipation of the new ROTT drove me to buy a ROTT pistol. 1.) What kind of gun is it in actuality? 2.) Why do your hand and the gun both look like they're 3D models?
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Chinese Tony Danza posted:2.) Why do your hand and the gun both look like they're 3D models? Because he couldn't manage to make them look like 2D sprites! 
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ToxicFrog posted:Also, once you start trying out third-party megawads, be aware that a lot of them are very finely balanced and will often become much harder than intended when played with Brutal Doom. The original episodes are a lot more forgiving in this regard. This is easily explained by simply remembering that half of Brutal Doom's point is to make the original campaigns harder since veteran doomers will find them far too easy after having triumphed over Alien Vendetta or Deus Vult 2. (The other half of Brutal Doom's point is to pretend to be in the Doom comic rather than the Doom game.)
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:I know that I'm drifting dangerously close to TFR territory here, but my anticipation of the new ROTT drove me to buy a ROTT pistol. I thought those were 3d models at first. Also, it's not exactly an "old" fps, but can anyone tell me what mods I should get for Doom 3? There seem to be a bunch of different flashlight and graphics mods, and I don't know which to pick.
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Genocyber posted:Also, it's not exactly an "old" fps, but can anyone tell me what mods I should get for Doom 3? There seem to be a bunch of different flashlight and graphics mods, and I don't know which to pick. Try this pack - it includes pretty much everything important along with some preset configurations.
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:I know that I'm drifting dangerously close to TFR territory here, but my anticipation of the new ROTT drove me to buy a ROTT pistol. Wait, there are ROTT pistols? I must know about that!
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I am playing on Hurt me Plenty in Knee Deep in the Dead in the original Doom (I am presuming that the difficulties go Babby, Easy, Normal, Hard, Very Hard). Good fun and all, but I find it very easy compared to Blood. Then again, when I played Blood, it was nothing but brutal. Well made, but tough, often to my own enjoyment. I am fine with walking before running. Or should I stop screwing around and restart on one of the higher difficulties?
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Unlucky7 posted:I am playing on Hurt me Plenty in Knee Deep in the Dead in the original Doom (I am presuming that the difficulties go Babby, Easy, Normal, Hard, Very Hard). Good fun and all, but I find it very easy compared to Blood. Then again, when I played Blood, it was nothing but brutal. Well made, but tough, often to my own enjoyment. I am fine with walking before running.
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Ultra-Violence is a fantastic level of difficulty, with great monster density. I pretty much refuse to play on anything lower, even in too-hard wads.  Nightmare is stupid.
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Unlucky7 posted:I am playing on Hurt me Plenty in Knee Deep in the Dead in the original Doom (I am presuming that the difficulties go Babby, Easy, Normal, Hard, Very Hard). Easy with double ammo Easy Normal Hard Hard with double ammo and respawning monsters
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Stuntman posted:Do Ultra-violence. Doom 1 is pretty easy with it, especially if you have full mouselook. Nightmare is just a gimmick difficulty. I am playing with full mouselook. Does it break the game that much that I should turn it off?
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The Kins posted:The difficulties basically go: Or for a lot of levels because the authors get lazy: Double ammo No differences No differences No differences Double ammo and respawning monsters
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Unlucky7 posted:I am playing with full mouselook. Does it break the game that much that I should turn it off?
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Unlucky7 posted:I am playing with full mouselook. Does it break the game that much that I should turn it off? Not exactly. Doom compensated for no vertical aiming by automatically angling shots up or down. What makes the game easier is that people actually strafe now, when in 1993 strafing wasn't really part of how people played.
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Unlucky7 posted:I am playing with full mouselook. Does it break the game that much that I should turn it off? Nah, lots of us play with mouselook on. It's worth remembering, though, that shootable walls (this goes both for regular switches, and the Icon of Sin, heh) aren't factored in by the vertical autoaim in the original game, and so if you're mouselooking you can cheat a bit by shooting a switch that's above or below you. This generally means there's some way you're supposed to figure out to get yourself up to the necessary height to aim at it.
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Chinese Tony Danza posted:1.) What kind of gun is it in actuality? 1.) Old as hell Walther P-38. 2.) Crappy lighting. I should probably just start a "pistols of early FPSs" collection now that I have both ROTT and Duke 3D covered.
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I just stumbled onto some sweet old school videogaming channels on youtube, one of which has this awesome little video about the history of the build engine. Man seeing that Ken's Labyrinth gameplay got me all nostalgic. Also incredibly jealous that I couldn't produce something like that when I was 17, still can't for that matter.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8tDBg4pfYk
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Why can't I change classes any more in Aeons of Death? I tried it with the newest GZDoom SVN and pressing left and right on the player options menu for it does nothing.
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Zeether posted:Why can't I change classes any more in Aeons of Death? I tried it with the newest GZDoom SVN and pressing left and right on the player options menu for it does nothing You don't have classes anymore, if I remember right. Is there a source port for RtCW yet? There is that ET-XReal, but I'd like something for SP. Also still looking for single player mods or map packs. Edit: vvv I do have that, but I can't remember where I got it either. Maybe the WSGF? It's not a pressing need for a source port, just idle curiosity. catlord fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Jan 3, 2013 |
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catlord posted:You don't have classes anymore, if I remember right.
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I will keep the Reelism hype train going if I have to shovel the coal in MYSELF   The Municipal Transpo level is getting upgraded. gently caress yes.
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Ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygod. I only just recently got back into playing some oldschool FPS games... I'm more than a little bit embarrassed that I got more excited reading this thread than I did about my last birthday or christmas. Very  but, from the age of about 14 onwards, I used to come home from house parties and sober up by playing all these games. Now I get to do it in with 3D sound!Just want to say a big thanks to the OP for putting this thread together. I'm more excited than the nintendo64 kid right now. Who's up for a game of Tribes? edit: I just reinstalled Duke3d and I'm having major flashbacks of waiting 45+ minutes downloading maps from Meccaworld to play on my dialup modem. I'm so loving old. 
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WHOIS John Galt posted:I will keep the Reelism hype train going if I have to shovel the coal in MYSELF Here's a weird mod I'm keeping an eye on: A Doom take on Mario 64, of all things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sQRb8uDumg A demo of In The Shadows was released for Quake 1 last month. It's a Stealth game, of all things... I haven't tried it yet, but it looks like a good way of implementing a stealth system in a very stealth-unfriendly game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YArCZDpkcSA
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Wasn't there some fake Quake competitor being advertised on the newsgroups all the time called Into The Shadows?
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The Kins posted:
You mean 'About time!'
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The Kins posted:Here's a weird mod I'm keeping an eye on: A Doom take on Mario 64, of all things. Reminds me of Super Sonic Doom, but more polished.
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The Kins posted:Here's a weird mod I'm keeping an eye on: A Doom take on Mario 64, of all things. Well since they're just kinda taking the setting & the idea of the magic paintings and otherwise keeping it pretty DOOM, that looks pretty awesome. I was prepared for some kind of platforming nonsense when you said Doom Mario 64 :P
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So, uh, why does Map 10 in Scythe not work in Aeons of Death? The part where the level supposedly ends...doesn't end the level (I'm talking about the lava pit that kills you)
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Just seeing the breadth of interesting Doom mods is depressing in a way, just imagine all the cool stuff we'd have if all companies released their source code when the game becomes obsolete.
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Finished Memento Mori II with Brutal Doom...I'm not sure how I felt about it, I like the more visceral experience it gives and the bigger "punch" the weapons pack, but a lot of it seems unnecessary and the gameplay is changed a lot. What big megawad should I tackle next? I've done Scythe, Scythe2, MM1, MM2, Alien Vendetta, Deus Vult, Deus Vult 2 (not megawads I guess but w/e), and probably some other I'm forgetting.
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Evan Montegarde posted:Finished Memento Mori II with Brutal Doom...I'm not sure how I felt about it, I like the more visceral experience it gives and the bigger "punch" the weapons pack, but a lot of it seems unnecessary and the gameplay is changed a lot. Speed of Doom.
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Plutonia 2 and/or Plutonia Revisited are worth a try. I haven't played the entirety of Revisited, but I can at least vouch for Xaser's maps in it, both of which are great.
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Evan Montegarde posted:Finished Memento Mori II with Brutal Doom...I'm not sure how I felt about it, I like the more visceral experience it gives and the bigger "punch" the weapons pack, but a lot of it seems unnecessary and the gameplay is changed a lot. Requiem is basically MM3 and very nice. Icarus: Alien Vanguard is also pretty neat though not as good as Requiem overall. I'll vouch for Plutonia Revisited; it's an absolute blast. You can also try Valkiriforce's vanilla megaWADs, Doom Core and Reverie.
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There was a (G?)ZDoom mod a year or so back that I found on some forums which I can't remember the name of. The mod had a grayscale theme, but enemies would drop red orbs that you could use to cast what were essentially vampire spells. I also believe that either ammo or health were removed from the game in favor of placing mana (like a strict item replacement), and you could heal by basically devouring corpses I believe. I know it's not much to go off of, but does this sound familiar to anyone else?
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