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ixo
Sep 8, 2004

m'bloaty

Fun Shoe

AbbiTheDog posted:

Be careful on this - the kiddie tax rules might apply and make the returns more complex than the OP has realized.

In that specific instance, would it be the best idea to always transfer cash instead of stock, and then purchase stock within the custodial account? I know absolutely nothing about the tax consequences of that type of account, at what point they occur and for whom.

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AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

ixo posted:

In that specific instance, would it be the best idea to always transfer cash instead of stock, and then purchase stock within the custodial account? I know absolutely nothing about the tax consequences of that type of account, at what point they occur and for whom.

As my management professor always said was the best answer to every question - "it depends." It's beyond the scope of a free internet forum.

TheReverend
Jun 21, 2005

I know this is probably asked nonstop here (maybe the OP can add something in the OP) but what are the most common and most significant itemized deductions? I bought a house in 2012 and I want all the money I can get.

I know I have:
Mortgage Interest
Property Taxes

But what else is there? What are some other completely legal but often forgotten deductions?

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

TheReverend posted:

I know this is probably asked nonstop here (maybe the OP can add something in the OP) but what are the most common and most significant itemized deductions? I bought a house in 2012 and I want all the money I can get.

I know I have:
Mortgage Interest
Property Taxes

But what else is there? What are some other completely legal but often forgotten deductions?

Did you pay mortgage insurance?

Did you take a bunch of items to goodwill when you moved?

If you're self-employed, did you pay any estimates to the state?

Those would be the quick and dirty.

Small White Dragon
Nov 23, 2007

No relation.

TheReverend posted:

I know this is probably asked nonstop here (maybe the OP can add something in the OP) but what are the most common and most significant itemized deductions? I bought a house in 2012 and I want all the money I can get.

I know I have:
Mortgage Interest
Property Taxes

But what else is there? What are some other completely legal but often forgotten deductions?
State and Local Income Tax *OR* State and Local Sales Tax. (You can't take both.)

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

Small White Dragon posted:

State and Local Income Tax *OR* State and Local Sales Tax. (You can't take both.)

You can't tell me what to do.

N.N. Ashe
Dec 29, 2009

Admiral101 posted:

Kickstarter isn't anywhere close to a qualified charity. Not to mention you're buying a product in most cases. There's nothing to deduct.

I don't think there's anything stopping non profits from using kickstarter as a platform to receive donations, though I'd doubt they are common. Pet project of some dude, I totally agree nothing to deduct. A "friends of" organization trying to pull together money for park improvements or whatever seems like it would be treated the same using kickstarter or not, right?

/Not tax side

Edit: Looked it up and they don't allow any non profit activity, so please disregard my above point.

N.N. Ashe fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Jan 4, 2013

Epi Lepi
Oct 29, 2009

You can hear the voice
Telling you to Love
It's the voice of MK Ultra
And you're doing what it wants

Small White Dragon posted:

State and Local Income Tax *OR* State and Local Sales Tax. (You can't take both.)

Isn't one of these deductions going away this year or next or did they extend it?

Small White Dragon
Nov 23, 2007

No relation.

Epi Lepi posted:

Isn't one of these deductions going away this year or next or did they extend it?
I thought I heard this was extended for a couple more years as part of the recent Senate bill.

EDIT: I checked the bill and it was extended for two more years.

Anyway, my understanding was the most common (biggest?) itemized deductions were mortgage interest, state & local taxes, and charitable donations.

Small White Dragon fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Jan 4, 2013

TheReverend
Jun 21, 2005

AbbiTheDog posted:

Did you pay mortgage insurance?

Did you take a bunch of items to goodwill when you moved?

If you're self-employed, did you pay any estimates to the state?

Those would be the quick and dirty.

Yes :(

Some small ones.

N/A

Thanks. I'll see if I can remember what I donated (most likely not worth much).

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!

Small White Dragon posted:

So now that the tax bill has been approved by the House and the Senate, how long until everyone can get rolling?

Lacerte claims to have an update lined up for next Monday that should incorporate the changes for calculations. Not sure when the IRS will issue the final versions of the various forms so that returns can actually be filed.

They sent out an email last month saying that they were actually having their programmers work on the three most likely scenarios so that they would be able to quickly issue an update patch once something passed (or didn't pass). So it likely was mostly an issue of plugging in a few specifics and running with what they had already prepared.

In other words, for once in their loving life Intuit is acting like a multi billion dollar international public software company that I pay more than $10K a year to and not some mom and pop outfit running out of someone's garage.

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

furushotakeru posted:

Lacerte claims to have an update lined up for next Monday that should incorporate the changes for calculations. Not sure when the IRS will issue the final versions of the various forms so that returns can actually be filed.

They sent out an email last month saying that they were actually having their programmers work on the three most likely scenarios so that they would be able to quickly issue an update patch once something passed (or didn't pass). So it likely was mostly an issue of plugging in a few specifics and running with what they had already prepared.

In other words, for once in their loving life Intuit is acting like a multi billion dollar international public software company that I pay more than $10K a year to and not some mom and pop outfit running out of someone's garage.

Latest note said efiling effective 1/22/13.

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!

AbbiTheDog posted:

Latest note said efiling effective 1/22/13.

That's the IRS's date, nothing to do with software.

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

furushotakeru posted:

That's the IRS's date, nothing to do with software.

Just like Santa, I will believe until proven otherwise.

aca
Dec 19, 2004
heh
My wife is a resident of Puerto Rico (no state taxes) and I'm a resident of Massachusetts (lots of state taxes). Is it still possible for us to file jointly even though we don't pay the same state taxes?

shodanjr_gr
Nov 20, 2007

shodanjr_gr posted:

Thanks for this. The "teacher/professor/researcher" part of P519 seems so broad that even a researcher could be covered under the "teaching" clause. I claimed this last year and my refund went through fine and I wanted to get some additional backing before doing it this year again. This type of exemption, since it relates to personal income from services, does not require me to file a Form 8833, right?

Also, I was wondering, is there a way to get a "concrete" answer from the IRS on this?

Thanks again seymore!

Quoting myself in an effort to get confirmation on this. I had a CPA on another forum tell me that I am not entitled to this exemption which kinda has me worried.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice
The company I work for is based out of IL, I am considered a satellite office in SD which has no income tax.

Due to an accounting error I was forced to pay IL income tax after a payroll change and they now have ~$500 of my money. In the past when it was a larger amount I had to file a Schedule NR form which stated I made my wages in SD and to give me my money.

Looking at Schedule NR it says "If you are a nonresident you must file Form IL-1040 and Schedule NR if your Illinois base income from Schedule NR is greater than your Illinois exemption allowance on Schedule NR."

Looking further into exemptions it says that the exemption is $2000 for someone filing for themselves. Does this mean since it's only around $500 I can just tell them to give me it all back on my 1040 or do I still need to file a Schedule NR?

razz
Dec 26, 2005

Queen of Maceration
Tax return question coming from a Graduate student!

My school pays my tuition, and they do this by just depositing the tuition money into my bank account. It is counted as income. They tax this money before they give it to me (which screws me over at the time because the amount they give me is less than what I owe by about $800 and this happens twice a year) but I get pretty much all that money back come tax time. Last year I received a federal tax return of $2,222. The year before that was pretty much the same.

This year I got my 1098-T form (the tuition statement one) and box 2 says that I paid $4591.30 in tuition and related expenses. This is not accurate as I actually paid $6,860.65 in tuition and other expenses. I have statements from the university and from my bank showing all the payments that I made, and it adds up to $6,860.65 in 2012.

Anyway, TurboTax wanted me to give the number on the 1098-T form ($4591.30) but then asks if the amount of tuition I paid was different than what was on the 1098-T which it is by a significant amount. So I put in the actual amount I paid ($6,860.65) and it gave me some sort of error because the two numbers don't match. If I use the amount on the 1098-T, my tax return is significantly less than what I got last year. If anything, I figure I should get more money back this year since tuition went up. But it won't let me use the amount of tuition I actually paid, only the amount on the 1098-T.

What do I do? I was expecting to get back around the same amount I got back last year. My income is identical as in 2011 as I am on a research stipend that does not change.

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

razz posted:

Tax return question coming from a Graduate student!

My school pays my tuition, and they do this by just depositing the tuition money into my bank account. It is counted as income. They tax this money before they give it to me (which screws me over at the time because the amount they give me is less than what I owe by about $800 and this happens twice a year) but I get pretty much all that money back come tax time. Last year I received a federal tax return of $2,222. The year before that was pretty much the same.

This year I got my 1098-T form (the tuition statement one) and box 2 says that I paid $4591.30 in tuition and related expenses. This is not accurate as I actually paid $6,860.65 in tuition and other expenses. I have statements from the university and from my bank showing all the payments that I made, and it adds up to $6,860.65 in 2012.

Anyway, TurboTax wanted me to give the number on the 1098-T form ($4591.30) but then asks if the amount of tuition I paid was different than what was on the 1098-T which it is by a significant amount. So I put in the actual amount I paid ($6,860.65) and it gave me some sort of error because the two numbers don't match. If I use the amount on the 1098-T, my tax return is significantly less than what I got last year. If anything, I figure I should get more money back this year since tuition went up. But it won't let me use the amount of tuition I actually paid, only the amount on the 1098-T.

What do I do? I was expecting to get back around the same amount I got back last year. My income is identical as in 2011 as I am on a research stipend that does not change.

The 1098-T might be inaccurate. I'd just put in the actual number you paid in eligible costs.

Edit: I've never had the IRS send a matching a notice for putting the actual number.

Tortilla Maker
Dec 13, 2005
Un Desmadre A Toda Madre
I got married approximately 10 days ago. I hadn't considered tax implications until someone joked that it was a "tax wedding" or something like that.

My wife is in graduate school 1,500 miles away and has minimal income.

Should we be opt for the married but filing seperately option (or jointly?), keep it simple and file as singles for the year, or do i do head of household?

Are there any comprehensive sites that give breakdowns of these options and their potential affects on our tax situation?

Thanks in advance!

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!

Tortilla Maker posted:

I got married approximately 10 days ago. I hadn't considered tax implications until someone joked that it was a "tax wedding" or something like that.

My wife is in graduate school 1,500 miles away and has minimal income.

Should we be opt for the married but filing seperately option (or jointly?), keep it simple and file as singles for the year, or do i do head of household?

Are there any comprehensive sites that give breakdowns of these options and their potential affects on our tax situation?

Thanks in advance!

File jointly. Your only options are joint or separate, and you will pay more tax filing separate.

Epi Lepi
Oct 29, 2009

You can hear the voice
Telling you to Love
It's the voice of MK Ultra
And you're doing what it wants

razz posted:

Tax return question coming from a Graduate student!

AbbiTheDog posted:

The 1098-T might be inaccurate. I'd just put in the actual number you paid in eligible costs.

Edit: I've never had the IRS send a matching a notice for putting the actual number.

Even if they did send a notice, if you have the appropriate backup all you have to do is send copies of those papers back to the IRS, maybe with an explanation letter for good measure and you should be fine. Just hang on to those backup documents for at least 3 years and you should have no worries.

razz
Dec 26, 2005

Queen of Maceration

AbbiTheDog posted:

The 1098-T might be inaccurate. I'd just put in the actual number you paid in eligible costs.

Edit: I've never had the IRS send a matching a notice for putting the actual number.

I was using Turbo Tax and it said put in the number from the 1098-T, so I did. Then it had an option that said "If the amount you paid is different than the number on the 1098-T, enter it here". I did that. It gave me a warning message saying the two numbers didn't match and wouldn't let me continue! Is it legit to put in a number that isn't the same as what is on the 1080-T if the number I use is what I actually paid and I have statements to prove it? I'm in the process of getting in contact with some of the financial aid people at my school so hopefully they can help me.

baquerd
Jul 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

razz posted:

I was using Turbo Tax and it said put in the number from the 1098-T, so I did. Then it had an option that said "If the amount you paid is different than the number on the 1098-T, enter it here". I did that. It gave me a warning message saying the two numbers didn't match and wouldn't let me continue! Is it legit to put in a number that isn't the same as what is on the 1080-T if the number I use is what I actually paid and I have statements to prove it? I'm in the process of getting in contact with some of the financial aid people at my school so hopefully they can help me.

Yes, you should put what you actually paid. This sounds like a bug or a CYA move by Turbo Tax.

razz
Dec 26, 2005

Queen of Maceration
That's kind of what I figured, I just didn't know if it would be a bad move to put down a number that is different than on the 1098-T. Thanks!

Oh and I don't want to make another post, but is there any credits or deductions that are not available this year that were available last year that would cause my tax return to be less? My income is practically identical as in 2011.

razz fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jan 7, 2013

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

baquerd posted:

Yes, you should put what you actually paid. This sounds like a bug or a CYA move by Turbo Tax.

Yeah, I'd put in the actual number where the "1098-T" input should go. There are some things the IRS computers tie out, not sure this is one of them, since the IRS knows that number can be a) grossly inaccurate, and b) doesn't include out-of-pocket costs incurred by the taxpayer.

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!

AbbiTheDog posted:

Yeah, I'd put in the actual number where the "1098-T" input should go. There are some things the IRS computers tie out, not sure this is one of them, since the IRS knows that number can be a) grossly inaccurate, and b) doesn't include out-of-pocket costs incurred by the taxpayer.

1098-T is also reported on an accrual basis while taxpayers report on a cash basis. Amounts on the education credit form can also include required course fees and materials, which also won't be reported on the 1098-T.

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

furushotakeru posted:

1098-T is also reported on an accrual basis while taxpayers report on a cash basis.

Ahh, that's what it was. Couldn't remember.

wwb
Aug 17, 2004

So, my sister and I inherited a lovely property in upstate new york. So lovely no bank would write a loan against it, so when we were selling it we were forced to do a seller financed mortgage or hold it. We sold but now I'm dealing with the tax implications.

Anyhow, I reside in DC. My sister resides overseas but for US state purposes files in MD. Do we need to file NY state income taxes for the income we get from the interest on this mortgage?

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

I receive all of my income through a stipend, as I am a full-time graduate student. I do not receive any forms of any kind. I've reported this in previous years as "fellowship income" without much issue using TurboTax. This year, I made a contribution into a Roth IRA. TurboTax throws an error at me that the entire contribution is in excess because I have an "earned income" of $0. Some brief Googling suggests that my fellowship may not, in fact, count as earned income, and thus the entirety of the contribution I made to the Roth is due a 6% excise tax.

This is very much a "are you loving serious?!?!" moment for me. Please tell me I am wrong.

If not, can I do something to get around paying the $300 I can't afford, or am I utterly hosed?

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

disheveled posted:

I receive all of my income through a stipend, as I am a full-time graduate student. I do not receive any forms of any kind. I've reported this in previous years as "fellowship income" without much issue using TurboTax. This year, I made a contribution into a Roth IRA. TurboTax throws an error at me that the entire contribution is in excess because I have an "earned income" of $0. Some brief Googling suggests that my fellowship may not, in fact, count as earned income, and thus the entirety of the contribution I made to the Roth is due a 6% excise tax.

This is very much a "are you loving serious?!?!" moment for me. Please tell me I am wrong.

If not, can I do something to get around paying the $300 I can't afford, or am I utterly hosed?

Withdraw the Roth IRA funds you contributed in 2012 by 4/15. Should be fine.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
I have a job offer (:yotj: woo) and a potential job offer. The latter would be contract-to-hire for six months and the former regular full time. Contract job would be $5k gross more depending on whether I can negotiate it. How much would that work out with the different tax rates for independent contractors/is there anything else it would be good to know on that front?

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

You may pay more in taxes overall with the contract job because you'll be paying 100% employment taxes, where a w4 employee has half covered by the employer. You may not be able to deduct as much as you'd like or enough to match your take home with the contract job, but the finer details like the actual amount of income in question might sway it. It's my understanding that it typically doesn't. I'm not an expert by any means, though.

slap me silly
Nov 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer
I doubt the extra $5k would even cover the FICA+Medicare and benefits provided by the full time position, but it really depends on the details. Not to mention any intangible benefit you may find in a job that doesn't definitely end in six months. Sorry misread that

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!

fivre posted:

I have a job offer (:yotj: woo) and a potential job offer. The latter would be contract-to-hire for six months and the former regular full time. Contract job would be $5k gross more depending on whether I can negotiate it. How much would that work out with the different tax rates for independent contractors/is there anything else it would be good to know on that front?
I shall :eng99: and ask, What if the contract position turns into a full-time position? Would it still be covered via these independent contractor rates? In terms of overall benefits, does the FT position offer health care and such, because private health insurance (in the US, anyway) could well exceed $5k during the contract period, as could out-of-pocket medical expenses in lieu of health insurance depending on HSA programs and the like.

vvvv Wrong thread, but since the $5 depends on negotiations anyway, I think the most important question you can actually ask is, Which of these jobs am I more likely to enjoy?

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Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

PhantomOfTheCopier posted:

I shall :eng99: and ask, What if the contract position turns into a full-time position? Would it still be covered via these independent contractor rates? In terms of overall benefits, does the FT position offer health care and such, because private health insurance (in the US, anyway) could well exceed $5k during the contract period, as could out-of-pocket medical expenses in lieu of health insurance depending on HSA programs and the like.

I'd be a regular FTE with the employer paid FICA and whatever, health benefits too. I'd be okay during the contract period through my parents' insurance and HSA, it'd just be the extra taxes I'd have to worry about.

Job security is iffy: I'm still young, single, and somewhat confused about my future, so part of me says go for it! It gives you a definite point in the future to make some career decisions! but another part is more tired of moving around.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Here's a tricky one...
I paid for some dental work in December with an HSA debit card. I just got a check in the mail from the dentist's office for $50, saying that they charged me the wrong amount and insurance ended up paying more than they expected. Thus the refund.
My question is this:
Will this cause me problems at tax time? Which tax year? What do I do with the check? I have no idea. :ohdear:

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

fivre posted:

I have a job offer (:yotj: woo) and a potential job offer. The latter would be contract-to-hire for six months and the former regular full time. Contract job would be $5k gross more depending on whether I can negotiate it. How much would that work out with the different tax rates for independent contractors/is there anything else it would be good to know on that front?

Is this a true 1099 independent contractor gig, or a W-2 contracting gig through a staffing firm like Volt or Robert Half?

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

skipdogg posted:

Is this a true 1099 independent contractor gig, or a W-2 contracting gig through a staffing firm like Volt or Robert Half?

I'm guessing 1099, since it's direct through the company I'd work at.

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furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!

AbbiTheDog posted:

Just like Santa, I will believe until proven otherwise.

Whelp, IRS is now saying 1/30 due to the bill that was passed on 1/1. Better than 2/14 or "late March" though?

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