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Lightbulb Out posted:In my opinion, the Prius is a great car if you want an appliance. It is not a great car if you enjoy driving cars. After driving one, I understand why people are always driving slowly in front of me in them, it's because the car begs you to drive it slowly.
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Lightbulb Out posted:In my opinion, the Prius is a great car if you want an appliance. It is not a great car if you enjoy driving cars. After driving one, I understand why people are always driving slowly in front of me in them, it's because the car begs you to drive it slowly. Its a farce though, its a supposedly 'Green' car that is anything but as far as its construction, the only thing efficient about it is its fuel milage. That is about it. Like you said, its an appliance, but not a particularly good one.
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Those who paid for it funded future hybrid vehicles to come out later. Early adopters always spur future projects.
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Plus for all the poo poo we give it, the Prius is one of the few cars that still upholds Toyota's old reputation for making solid cars. It may not be fun, nor particularly eco-friendly in the big picture, but it's a model with, as far as I know, no major issues or design flaws like other cars tend to have. Obviously it's not really possible for the DIY'er to work on, but then what is these days?
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ultimateforce posted:People who hate the Prius are stupid and should rethink their position. The waste generated in the mining/refining/production of all the rare earth metals that go into the prius more than offset the ecological gains generated by its "good" gas mileage. Also, like others have said, they're boring and spongy and generally horrible if you actually enjoy being behind the wheel. Fairly comfy though
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Fucknag posted:Plus for all the poo poo we give it, the Prius is one of the few cars that still upholds Toyota's old reputation for making solid cars. It may not be fun, nor particularly eco-friendly in the big picture, but it's a model with, as far as I know, no major issues or design flaws like other cars tend to have. Guess that is why they recalled 2.77 Million worldwide for 2005-2009 Prius. grumplestiltzkin posted:The waste generated in the mining/refining/production of all the rare earth metals that go into the prius more than offset the ecological gains generated by its "good" gas mileage. Don't forget the higher starting retail price. In the end, if you like the Prius, fine. But arguing that it is some sort of mythical solution is rather foolish considering its manufacturing costs on the environment compared to other green vehicles. I'd be lying if I didn't agree they are comfy and have a nice interior compared to the new Jetta TDIs, which feel kind of plasticy, and I hate the DSG transmission, I'd much rather they keep the 6 speed manual. Its like something out of a Sci Fi... CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Jan 4, 2013 |
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They seem to be quite reliable, have decent interior space, and get around fairly efficiently. I'd say that's a decent appliance. That's not to say other cars are not a better "green" solution, but I don't think the Prius is a bad car. I definitely have no desire to own one. Maybe we should ask the professor?
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Lightbulb Out posted:They seem to be quite reliable, have decent interior space, and get around fairly efficiently. I'd say that's a decent appliance. That's not to say other cars are not a better "green" solution, but I don't think the Prius is a bad car. I definitely have no desire to own one. I agree, I can't call them BAD, that is for sure. Like I said, if you like it, what is the point in me telling you that you are wrong? Its your taste and choice. But its not as green as it was made out to be, except for its city fuel economy. And poor professor, he just wants a home
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CommieGIR posted:And poor professor, he just wants a home He has a home, I just couldn't get a great photo of it. It's going in a dirt track Modified racer of some sort.
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grumplestiltzkin posted:The waste generated in the mining/refining/production of all the rare earth metals that go into the prius more than offset the ecological gains generated by its "good" gas mileage. I loving know making batteries makes pollution. I knew there were going to be these chestnuts coming but I still left that out of my post. I am a fool.
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Either way, compared to this thing: I'll take a Prius any day.
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Rhyno posted:Can it make toast? You're gonna want a Karma for that.
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ultimateforce posted:People who hate the Prius are stupid and should rethink their position. Every Prius I have ever had the pleasure of servicing always smells like absolute poo poo inside. 100 percent of the time no exceptions. Im just making an observation here. Preoptopus fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Jan 4, 2013 |
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Preoptopus posted:Every Prius I have ever had the pleasure of servicing always smells like absolute poo poo inside. 100 percent of the time no exceptions. Im just making an observation here. Same here. Also the center console lid is broken on ALL 20 series. All of them.
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Slavvy posted:Same here. Also the center console lid is broken on ALL 20 series. All of them. Not the one I drive! Not a single broken thing inside. The interior's got some stains but that's just because my aunt/uncle basically use it as a pickup truck. Doesn't smell either, my aunt wouldn't be having any of that.
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CommieGIR posted:I'd be lying if I didn't agree they are comfy and have a nice interior compared to the new Jetta TDIs, which feel kind of plasticy, and I hate the DSG transmission, I'd much rather they keep the 6 speed manual.
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ultimateforce posted:Those who paid for it funded future hybrid vehicles to come out later. Early adopters always spur future projects. Hook, line and sinker with the marketing BS mate. And that's all hybrids actually are. If you gave a poo poo about real world fuel economy and cheap to run - plus actual good cars - the kind of diesels say like Ford is putting out smack the Prius stupid. And are cheaper. And are much better cars. And even good enough that a red raving lunatic like me gets grudgingly won over by the new gen Fiesta which is in truth quite a bloody good thing.
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Steve French posted:Aaand that's why I bought the wagon TDI with the 6 speed That and it's super nice to have the space for all my stuff for a long-ish trip. I don't even regularly need all the extra space, but it's nice that it is there. Also, MT. Then again, mine is a 2010, so the plastics feel less lovely, and the interior is less rubbish than the Jettas of today. Also, the leatherette just reminds me of the cars my dad had as a kid, so I kinda like them.
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Nobody cares about your opinion of the Prius, i hope this helps. Here's Ronnie Peterson demonstrating to Emmo Fittipaldi the concept of opposite lock.
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Not entirely sure bout the BBS wheels but the colour is perfect.
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ultimateforce posted:People who hate the Prius are stupid and should rethink their position. Yeah save the environment maaan
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Mach 40
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Zenostein posted:That and it's super nice to have the space for all my stuff for a long-ish trip. The Jetta SportWagen currently on the market is still a MkV Jetta underneath, so it's a lot nicer than the MkVI Jetta sedans. If I was in the market for another wagon, I'd pick one of those up for sure. I'm planning to buy my inlaws' JSW TDI in a couple years.
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grumplestiltzkin posted:The waste generated in the mining/refining/production of all the rare earth metals that go into the prius more than offset the ecological gains generated by its "good" gas mileage. I am honestly surprised to see this tired old bullshit on this forum of all places.
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sandoz posted:I am honestly surprised to see this tired old bullshit on this forum of all places. It's not that much bullshit, though. Manufacturing batteries for hybrid or electric cars isn't really good environmentally, especially since so much of the stuff needed comes out of huge strip mines in China. Also, the Prius isn't even the most efficient hybrid you can buy. I'm not one to trot out such arguments because it's pretty clear that alternative power sources are needed and for the vast majority of people who aren't internal combustion favoring gearheads like us, the quicker we can get there the better. I think that the Prius especially gets the ire of people here because the community of those who buy one are also the douchebags that act superior because they are saving the environment without actually knowing how a car is manufactured. Should hybrids or EV's be shunned because some of the manufacturing processes are not ideal for the environment? No way in hell. Should condescending Prius owners be dicked with because they are ignorant? Absofuckinglutely. e- Here's a piece from the NY Times on mining practices in China Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jan 4, 2013 |
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I have to agree, especially with the stories I heard from a friend of mine who lives in california of all the iCar 1 owners who dumped their old Prius on cl for rock bottom price the second the iCar 2 came out. Gotta have the latest! At least their old ones went to people who got a steal on them and are saving money hand over fist.
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VikingSkull posted:I think that the Prius especially gets the ire of people here because the community of those who buy one are also the douchebags that act superior because they are saving the environment without actually knowing how a car is manufactured. How do they compare to the community of douchebags that act superior because they read a fw:fw:fw:fw: email from their grandmother about how those stupid hippies and their Prius are worse for the environment than H2 owners?
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C'mon guys, enough of all this Prius chat unless you've got a turbocharged one: http://autospeed.com/cms/title_The-Story-of-Turboing-a-Hybrid-Prius-Part-1/A_112194/article.html http://autospeed.com/cms/title_The-Story-of-Turboing-a-Hybrid-Prius-Part-2/A_112195/article.html http://autospeed.com/cms/title_The-Story-of-Turboing-a-Hybrid-Prius-Part-3/A_112196/article.html http://autospeed.com/cms/title_The-Story-of-Turboing-a-Hybrid-Prius-Part-4/A_112197/article.html http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_112198/article.html ...it's still cool though.
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The best Prius.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:
Has anybody made a gigantic fart-can for the 10 Turbo yet?
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I think everyone is misplacing judgement here. I like the Prius, it's filled with useful technology to make it cheaper to own and friendlier to the only planet we can occupy. But I loathe the dickheads that drive them. Note I didn't say all drivers who drive a Prius are dickheads.
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sandoz posted:I am honestly surprised to see this tired old bullshit on this forum of all places. Let's end it now, then. The environmental qualities of the batteries in the Most Boring Car........In The World are neither awesome nor AI.
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sandoz posted:How do they compare to the community of douchebags that act superior because they read a fw:fw:fw:fw: email from their grandmother about how those stupid hippies and their Prius are worse for the environment than H2 owners? I don't think I ever said that, nor did I say that the Prius is a bad car. You do look a little silly ignoring that some of the processes involved in the manufacture of hybrids aren't ideal, though. Do you honestly think that rare earth mining is harmless?
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oil extraction and refinement doesn't exactly have the best track record in that regard either. But IOC is right, this arguement doesn't belong here.
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You're right, it's a derail.
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# ? Jan 4, 2013 22:42 |
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Oh god, the Hairy Olds is one of the greatest, most insane things ever created. A 442 powered by a 455 at each end of the car, the front engine powering the front wheels and the rear engine powering the rear wheels. Even cut holes in the fenders for the smoke to pour through.
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I hate the Prius for the horrible driving dynamics, also the people that drive them. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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echoplex posted:Not entirely sure bout the BBS wheels but the colour is perfect. Wait, someone actually painted over the stainless steel?
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Root Bear posted:Wait, someone actually painted over the stainless steel? That's what happens when it gets into an accident.
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In a sick way I like the painted DMC-12. This is a friends Ford Festiva he's currently putting together. Said Festiva has a miata 1.8 BP engine. Said Festiva also retains the factory power steering and air conditioning. It looks totally boring and bland until you lift the hood. His old BP Festiva looked like rear end but it was quite fun to drive.
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