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Marvin: Oct 2, 2002

Got my first game with my Death Guard tomorrow. I havn't really played since 2010 and so would apprciate some input on this list:

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HQ							

							
Centurion								90
	Centurion						 50	
	Chaplin							 35
	Melta Bombs						 5	


Elites							

							
Legion Dreanought Talon							320
	2x Dreadnought						250	
	2x Twin-linker Autocannon				 15	
	1x Twinlinked Lascannon					 25	
	1x Heavy Flamer						 10	
	2x Extra Armour						 20	
							
Apothecarion Detachment							 90
	2 x Apothecary						90	
							
Troops							

Legion Tactical Squad							240
	Sqaud (10 Marines)					150	
	+ 5x Marines						 50	
	15x Extra Close Combat Weapon				 30	
	Sergeant Power Weapon					 10	
							
Legion Tactical Squad							245
	Sqaud (10 Marines)					150	
	+ 5x Marines						 50	
	15x Extra Close Combat Weapon				 30	
	Sergeant Power Fist					 15	
							
Legion Support Squad							220
	Sqaud (5 Marines)					100	
	+ 5x Marines						 75	
	9x Volkite Caliver					 45	
				
							
Heavy Support							

Legion Heavy Supporty Squad						160
	Sqaud (5 Marines)					135	
	5x Autocannon						 25	
							
Predator								135
	Predator						 75	
	Lascannon Sponsons					 50	
	Extra Armour						 10	
							
							
								Total: 1500

For those that havn't seen the book:

Legion tactical squads can shoot twice in a turn if they haven't moved but can't shoot in the following turn. They cannot take special/heavy weapons.
The Apothecarys give the squad they join FNP.
Volkite Calivers are R30 S6 AP5 Heavy 2, but for each unsaved wound cause another S6 AP 5 hit.
Pre-Heresy Predators have Heavy 4 Autocannons.

Marvin fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jan 4, 2013

# ? Jan 4, 2013 18:52

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 00:54

this troper: Apr 4, 2011; :o

Icon Of Sin posted:

Just remember, superglue works wonders for sealing small cuts, like those that would come from an exacto knife

My finger is proof of this right now

I jabbed my finger with an Exacto knife slicing a Librarian's hand off a few months ago. It's healed over but even thinking about it makes me feel the dull pain all over again. Ouch.

# ? Jan 4, 2013 19:15

Zhent: Oct 18, 2011; The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time.

Marvin posted:

Got my first game with my Death Guard tomorrow. I havn't really played since 2010 and so would apprciate some input on this list:

This may be my personal experience only, but I've played 3 games of 30k now and in each one I have been very glad that I paid the points to upgrade my predators with the plasma executioner turret. 3 3" AP2 blasts each turn, against an opponent who will also be fielding primarily marines. They have always made their points back.

I have not tried it yet, but you may want to consider swapping the chaplain for a librarian who can use prescience, and then tagging him onto one or both of the tactical squads. The only thing better than 20 marines rapid-firing Fury of the Legion is rerolling any misses in those first 80 shots.

# ? Jan 4, 2013 20:09

Paolomania: Apr 26, 2006

Daemons beware.

# ? Jan 4, 2013 20:33

Kwosge: Dec 6, 2005; Lincoln-fish, the most powerful of all the Lincoln based animals.

Paolomania posted:

Daemons beware.

Why?

# ? Jan 4, 2013 20:54

Marvin: Oct 2, 2002

Zhent posted:

This may be my personal experience only, but I've played 3 games of 30k now and in each one I have been very glad that I paid the points to upgrade my predators with the plasma executioner turret. 3 3" AP2 blasts each turn, against an opponent who will also be fielding primarily marines. They have always made their points back.

I have not tried it yet, but you may want to consider swapping the chaplain for a librarian who can use prescience, and then tagging him onto one or both of the tactical squads. The only thing better than 20 marines rapid-firing Fury of the Legion is rerolling any misses in those first 80 shots.

Thanks for you help, unfortunately I bought the other predator and don't have an executioner turret, I may proxy it and invest in one in the future. I had considered a Librarian but decided against it as Death Guard weren't very keen on psykers, I have one built and may end up using him if I find I need him.

# ? Jan 4, 2013 21:44

Fix: Jul 26, 2005; NEWT THE MOON

Kwosge posted:

It's just for a 250 point tournament (1 - HQ, 2 - Troops, plus whatever you can fit in after that) and I have only dropped about $150 bucks them so far.

# ? Jan 4, 2013 21:57

SRM: Jul 10, 2009; ~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Fix posted:

I know, when people write a dollar sign and bucks in the same number it makes me miserable too. I wouldn't want to spend one hundred and fifty dollars dollars either.

# ? Jan 4, 2013 22:18

Kwosge: Dec 6, 2005; Lincoln-fish, the most powerful of all the Lincoln based animals.

Fix posted:

You're telling me...

On the plus side, I have almost a year to find the best ebay deals. I'm going to save hundreds of $ bucks!

# ? Jan 4, 2013 22:33

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

So I've been tempted to look back into 40k lately. Is 6th ed's core book the only new book out until Dark Angels get theirs?

# ? Jan 4, 2013 22:40

Natrapx: Jan 13, 2010; The x is for xenogamy

Glitterbomber posted:

So I've been tempted to look back into 40k lately. Is 6th ed's core book the only new book out until Dark Angels get theirs?

Chaos Space Marines just got a new book, but I'm 99% sure they are the only ones so far.

Edit: Yep, they are the only ones with a 6th ed book at the moment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_(Warhammer_40,000)#6th_Edition

Natrapx fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jan 4, 2013

# ? Jan 4, 2013 22:46

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

DA is coming out on the 12th.

http://www.thewarstore.com/

# ? Jan 4, 2013 23:35

Kilo147: Apr 14, 2007; You remind me of the boss
What boss?
The boss with the power
What power?
The power of voodoo
Who-doo?
You do.
Do what?
Remind me of the Boss.

Ahahahahahaha okay, let me compose myself.

http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=18113

My only regret is not having the EoW thread of the absolute worst models of his handy.

# ? Jan 4, 2013 23:39

PeterWeller: Apr 21, 2003; I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

AbusePuppy posted:

I'd say that actually killing a Vendetta with one is pretty rare for the most part- d3+1 hits needing 5s to glance isn't a great place to be, and AP3 is exactly the wrong number to actually be getting anything from the vehicle damage table. It's no worse than something like a Quad Cannon or whatnot, but by most measures AV12 is pretty drat resilient to that sort of attack.

The Vector Strikes do really change the dynamic of where "safe" places are from it, though, and with access to Hover Mode as well it can really push the attack on a single unit if you really have to. All in all the Heldrake is as big a game-changer as a lot of the other major flyers, just in a different way. It's really beautiful in a "No, remove your models, I don't care what your special rules are" sort of way.

Yeah, I didn't think through the math and was thinking vendettas are AV10 on the side. It's not such a good chance. Still, if the heldrake comes on second and gets to vector strike right away, it has a pretty good chance of staying out of the vendetta's firing arc.

It's really too bad that the heldrake is only BS3 because that makes the baleflamer such a no-brainer option. But if the heldrake was BS4, the hades AC option would make it into a really nasty interceptor.

Naramyth posted:

The arms race is the best part.

Yeah, it was really fun, especially starting out with eldar because of all the specialists.

7thBatallion posted:

Ahahahahahaha okay, let me compose myself.

http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=18113

My only regret is not having the EoW thread of the absolute worst models of his handy.

That thing is goddamn glorious.

# ? Jan 4, 2013 23:52

Groetgaffel: Oct 30, 2011; Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Icon Of Sin posted:

Just remember, superglue works wonders for sealing small cuts, like those that would come from an exacto knife

My finger is proof of this right now

Oh, this I know. I've used it plenty of times. And for the larger gashes, if you manage to slip sideways with the blade or something, duct tape is excellent.

E: Why do I suddenly have an Ordo Malleus avatar? :confused:

# ? Jan 4, 2013 23:54

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Natrapx posted:

Chaos Space Marines just got a new book, but I'm 99% sure they are the only ones so far.

Edit: Yep, they are the only ones with a 6th ed book at the moment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_(Warhammer_40,000)#6th_Edition

Cool so I just have to get the core book.

All I have left for 40k are my Necrons, a small bit of Dark Eldar, and Tau, I know the last one is still the redheaded step-child but I assume my Necrons and DE are mostly still the same bringers of pain and horror I love?

Oh and also some still unbuilt Space Marines I may make into Dark Angels because why not.

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:04

Kosmonaut: Mar 9, 2009

Groetgaffel posted:

Why do I suddenly have an Ordo Malleus avatar?

Somebody's been hanging around here and buying 40k-themed versions of the newbie avatar for people who don't have one yet.

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:07

Phyresis: Nov 2, 2004; I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

Glitterbomber posted:

Cool so I just have to get the core book.

All I have left for 40k are my Necrons, a small bit of Dark Eldar, and Tau, I know the last one is still the redheaded step-child but I assume my Necrons and DE are mostly still the same bringers of pain and horror I love?

Oh and also some still unbuilt Space Marines I may make into Dark Angels because why not.

Tau are actually getting a new book soon, probably the next one after Dark Angels. Necrons are very strong, one of the best armies right now, but you will have to buy a lot of new models. I know some posters will jump in to disagree with me but I don't think Dark Eldar are in a good place at the moment. I just don't see how to make the army work now that skimmer transports are so lame (and point costed for 5th) and cover saves have gotten nerfed.

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:09

Groetgaffel: Oct 30, 2011; Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Kosmonaut posted:

Somebody's been hanging around here and buying 40k-themed versions of the newbie avatar for people who don't have one yet.

Oh. Well that's cool. Thanks Mr. Somebody!
_{A shame though that Daemonhunters is what I like the least.}

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:10

WhiskeyJuvenile: Feb 15, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo

a bunch of dumb dreadknight-riding babbys

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:15

Marvin: Oct 2, 2002

Kosmonaut posted:

Somebody's been hanging around here and buying 40k-themed versions of the newbie avatar for people who don't have one yet.

Also thanks, I've had that Stupid Newbie one for over 10 years.

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:19

Paolomania: Apr 26, 2006

Groetgaffel posted:

_{A shame though that Daemonhunters is what I like the least.}

The cruel luck of the draw strikes again.

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:23

Kilo147: Apr 14, 2007; You remind me of the boss
What boss?
The boss with the power
What power?
The power of voodoo
Who-doo?
You do.
Do what?
Remind me of the Boss.

PeterWeller posted:

That thing is goddamn glorious.

God has no place in his works.

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:27

Cataphract: Sep 10, 2004; Fun Shoe

Y'all's should invest in a good quality thimble. It's like armour for your thumb.

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:29

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Phyresis posted:

Tau are actually getting a new book soon, probably the next one after Dark Angels. Necrons are very strong, one of the best armies right now, but you will have to buy a lot of new models. I know some posters will jump in to disagree with me but I don't think Dark Eldar are in a good place at the moment. I just don't see how to make the army work now that skimmer transports are so lame (and point costed for 5th) and cover saves have gotten nerfed.

Holy poo poo for real? gently caress Dark Angels then I'll wait for the Tau book I've been waiting ages for.

I suppose I should focus on making my Necrons a better force rather than try to rejigger my mostly skimmer filled DE army. Any general guidelines for shifting from 5th to 6th for Necrons? I had a pretty speed focused army built up, Tomb Blades and Night Scythes and such, is that still a pretty valid tactic?

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:30

Phyresis: Nov 2, 2004; I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

Glitterbomber posted:

I suppose I should focus on making my Necrons a better force rather than try to rejigger my mostly skimmer filled DE army. Any general guidelines for shifting from 5th to 6th for Necrons? I had a pretty speed focused army built up, Tomb Blades and Night Scythes and such, is that still a pretty valid tactic?

Oh, I didn't realize you had 5th edition Necrons... for some reason I thought you were talking about their old poo poo. Everything is the same going from 5th to 6th, but better. Except the CCB. That got nerfed. Pretty much everything that was good is still good now, and I think your speedy army will work fine. What exactly are you running in it? You can only reserve half of your units now so you can't have a full Night Scythe army.

e: Oh, yeah, I'm excited about Tau too. Every now and then I open my Tau drawer and look at my Broadsides and Crisis Suits. :sigh:

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:36

LordAba: Oct 22, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

7thBatallion posted:

God has no place in his works.

The best thing are the marines in the pred turrets with the storm bolters. They lose a good 12" of range because of the hull of the thing.

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:37

Soulfucker: Feb 15, 2012; i,m going to kill myself on friday #wow #whoa; Fun Shoe

There's no Craftworld Eldar stupid baby

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:47

bhsman: Feb 10, 2008; by exmarx

Soulfucker posted:

There's no Craftworld Eldar stupid baby

You sure this isn't some attempt to use reverse psychology to have someone buy you an avatar? :v:

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:50

Soulfucker: Feb 15, 2012; i,m going to kill myself on friday #wow #whoa; Fun Shoe

bhsman posted:

You sure this isn't some attempt to use reverse psychology to have someone buy you an avatar?

Positive.

:edit: I guess I could add some actual content, I've finished basing what is practically my entire army so I could take some photos and post them later. I've also had some extremely fun games of 2nd edition which I should really do a battle report of one day. 6th edition is probably the most polished version of 40k I've ever played but it doesn't capture the sheer madness that makes 2nd so... beautiful...

Soulfucker fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jan 5, 2013

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:51

Groetgaffel: Oct 30, 2011; Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Soulfucker posted:

There's no Craftworld Eldar stupid baby

Nor is there a Slaanesh, Nurgle, Tzeentch, Ordo Xenos, Ordo Herticus, Any Guard 'cept Cadian, Adepta Sororitas or Adeptus Mechanicus one. :v:

bhsman posted:

You sure this isn't some attempt to use reverse psychology to have someone buy you an avatar?

Knowing the man, it most certainly is.

E: Or he confirms it before I get to have fun at his expense. :v:

# ? Jan 5, 2013 00:52

Demon Hunter: Jul 18, 2005

Groetgaffel posted:

Nor is there a Slaanesh, Nurgle, Tzeentch, Ordo Xenos, Ordo Herticus, Any Guard 'cept Cadian, Adepta Sororitas or Adeptus Mechanicus one.

Knowing the man, it most certainly is.

E: Or he confirms it before I get to have fun at his expense.

The avatars are coming from inside the house!!!

# ? Jan 5, 2013 01:00

Squibsy: Dec 3, 2005; Not suited, just booted.; College Slice

Paolomania posted:

The cruel luck of the draw strikes again.

These things are seriously one of my favourite things on the forums. I love it everytime I see a new one

# ? Jan 5, 2013 01:00

CyberLord XP: Oct 18, 2005; Goldie...She says her name is Goldie

I love the attention to detail. The Ork baby has a checker pattern on it's armor. Whoever is doing it has class.

# ? Jan 5, 2013 01:02

Groetgaffel: Oct 30, 2011; Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

ineptmule posted:

These things are seriously one of my favourite things on the forums. I love it everytime I see a new one

The Ordo Malleus one is new, right? I can't remember seeing it before.
But then again, I can't remember what I ate for dinner, or when it's time to go to bed anyway. :v:

# ? Jan 5, 2013 01:07

Fix: Jul 26, 2005; NEWT THE MOON

Phyresis posted:

Oh, I didn't realize you had 5th edition Necrons... for some reason I thought you were talking about their old poo poo. Everything is the same going from 5th to 6th, but better. Except the CCB. That got nerfed. Pretty much everything that was good is still good now, and I think your speedy army will work fine. What exactly are you running in it? You can only reserve half of your units now so you can't have a full Night Scythe army.

They nerfed Orikan/Writhing Worldscape as well which sorta sucks over here.

# ? Jan 5, 2013 01:11

Groetgaffel: Oct 30, 2011; Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Fix posted:

They nerfed Orikan/Writhing Worldscape as well which sorta sucks over here.

Didn't they on the other hand overrule the old FAQ on An'rakyr being able to use Mind In The Machine from inside his ride?

# ? Jan 5, 2013 01:13

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

7thBatallion posted:

Ahahahahahaha okay, let me compose myself.

http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=18113

My only regret is not having the EoW thread of the absolute worst models of his handy.

That was the best thread on EOW becuase holy poo poo are there some awful models out there.

Anyone have that picture of the Skull-Rhino convoy? That was probably my favourite "conversion".

# ? Jan 5, 2013 01:19

Soulfucker: Feb 15, 2012; i,m going to kill myself on friday #wow #whoa; Fun Shoe

Improbable Lobster posted:

That was the best thread on EOW becuase holy poo poo are there some awful models out there.

I miss that thread so, so much.

I'm partial to the Pre-Heresy Thousand Sons who were technically pretty well made but were goddamn insane in composition and chosen bitz.

Case in point:

# ? Jan 5, 2013 01:25

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 00:54

Ghost Hand: Aug 10, 2004; Rampant 40k Fanboy

Groetgaffel posted:

Yeah, I got the Gorgon passengers from FW, cut them apart to individual troopers and fix up the sleeves and whatnot where they previously overlapped.
Some seem to be shaping up to be more difficult than others, but with greenstuff and some plastic bits every here and there, I figure 50 DKoK for �52 is worth the effort. It's proving to be quite the entertaining project too, albeit with the occasional frustrating moment.
And so far I've managed not to cut myself, which is probably a new track record.

Never bothering to learn to cut away from myself with the same precision I have when I cut toward the thumb might have something to do with my many occasions of stabbing myself in said thumb.

E: I wanted to clarify, because as I interpreted your edit, it sounds like I'm making bootleg copies, which I'm not.

Totally clear now. Sorry for the confusion!

# ? Jan 5, 2013 01:26

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