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kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison


Jelena Abbou, for MAC.

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CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Ansar Santa
Jul 12, 2012

BIG HORNY COW posted:

An interesting photo ad is one for the UAZ-469 which wasn't really available for civilians until later as surplus.
Man, I want one.


I'm actually planning on buying a Lada Niva sometime this year, after I've saved up enough to fix up a rust-free example. I've looked at a few and they were in various states of disrepair, but from their reputation they're quite reliable if you know how to maintain them properly and can be fixed very easily when they break down. Problem is replacement parts are scarce, as they haven't been sold in this market since 1997. If you could even get your hands on a UAZ-469, you'd probably have to import everything from Russia.

The Lada Niva is widely regarded as having been the highest point in Socialist automotive design. Here is an airborne one.


An odd fetish image involving some ladies with a Lada Niva. The 2121 would not plausibly be stuck in their situation.


To avoid turning this into too much of an AI derail, here's the flag of the Soviet Union. Slava!


"Our glorious troops continue to advance without losing a foot of ground"

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country


quote:

Newly-graduated Afghan police officers attend their graduation ceremony at a National Police training center in Jalalabad, east of Kabul, Afghanistan, on December 27, 2012. Over 177 National police officers graduated after receiving 4 months of training in Jalalabad. (AP Photo/Rahmat Gul)

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Distributed to the 35 freshmen Republicans today:



Don't worry, I understand the Republicans had something similar to hand out to freshmen Democrats, something about lapdog kits or something like that.

e: found it.


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az jan jananam
Sep 6, 2011
HI, I'M HARDCORE SAX HERE TO DROP A NICE JUICY TURD OF A POST FROM UP ON HIGH
In the early 20th century there was a Western Orientalist fascination with Palestinians as the "true" descendants of the Biblical Hebrews, supposedly carrying on the traditions and behaviors described in the Old Testament in a much stronger way than contemporary Jews. The people mainly responsible for this was the American Colony, a utopian Swedish-American Christian cult that was set up in the late 19th century in East Jerusalem and would become the only photo studio in the region for decades. They would stage pictures of Holy Land in a way that was appropriate and marketable for British/American tourists and religious enthusiasts. These are from a National Geographic feature in 1914 on Palestine, which describes various Palestinian customs and connects them to the Old Testament (with helpful footnotes leading to the Bible).






An example of an Orientalist postcard, recreating the Bible in 20th century Palestine

az jan jananam fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Jan 5, 2013

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

Iron Tusk posted:

You might want to change that to the working poor.

And welfare queens do exist. My wife's coworker's sister was one. (Anecdotal evidence, best evidence) She was maxed out on kids so she asked her sister if she could have one more, have her sister adopt it, sign up for welfare and split the check with her.



Bullshit, the average extra benefit for an additional child is around $90/mo, far below even the most minimal childcare costs.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Radbot posted:

Bullshit, the average extra benefit for an additional child is around $90/mo, far below even the most minimal childcare costs.



She could have been really bad at math.



Or secretly just wanted a bunch of kids but wanted to seem slick about it.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Sidakafitz posted:

To avoid turning this into too much of an AI derail, here's the flag of the Soviet Union. Slava!


"Our glorious troops continue to advance without losing a foot of ground"


In this video Donald Sutherland teaches us how to battle the Red Menace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE0NIBxpkeg

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:


:ughh:


Activists set fire to copies of the English-language Buenos Aires Herald newspaper as they burn an advert taken out by British tabloid newspaper The Sun, that defends Britain's right to govern the Falkland Islands.


To be fair Fernandez did an open letter in British newspapers first.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20896050

quote:

Buenos Aires, January 3rd, 2013

Mr Prime Minister David Cameron,

One hundred and eighty years ago on the same date, January 3rd, in a blatant exercise of 19th-century colonialism, Argentina was forcibly stripped of the Malvinas Islands, which are situated 14,000km (8700 miles) away from London.

The Argentines on the Islands were expelled by the Royal Navy and the United Kingdom subsequently began a population implantation process similar to that applied to other territories under colonial rule.

Since then, Britain, the colonial power, has refused to return the territories to the Argentine Republic, thus preventing it from restoring its territorial integrity.

The Question of the Malvinas Islands is also a cause embraced by Latin America and by a vast majority of peoples and governments around the world that reject colonialism.

In 1960, the United Nations proclaimed the necessity of "bringing to an end colonialism in all its forms and manifestations". In 1965, the General Assembly adopted, with no votes against (not even by the United Kingdom), a resolution considering the Malvinas Islands a colonial case and inviting the two countries to negotiate a solution to the sovereignty dispute between them.

This was followed by many other resolutions to that effect.

In the name of the Argentine people, I reiterate our invitation for us to abide by the resolutions of the United Nations.

Cristina Fernández de Kirchner
President of the Argentine Republic


Argentine invasion of the Falklands.

Minsk is closer to London than Port Stanley is to Buenos Aires. So its always funny when they claim because Falklands is closer to them that it makes it theirs.

Fluo fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Jan 5, 2013

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Aside from political maneuvering and naval basing, what is the value of the Malvinas/Falkland Islands? I've had the impression that their main resource is sheep.

edit: This is not a pro-England post. My limited understanding of the issue is that the Argentines should have the islands, but I can't grasp why they want them.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Aside from political maneuvering and naval basing, what is the value of the Malvinas/Falkland Islands? I've had the impression that their main resource is sheep.

edit: This is not a pro-England post. My limited understanding of the issue is that the Argentines should have the islands, but I can't grasp why they want them.



People always go on about oil but generally thats a myth and there isn't that great a deal there. Britain is because we've had people living there before Argentina was even a country. Their only claim is because its closer to them its theirs but to give you an idea how stupid that claim is, Minsk is closer to London than Port Stanley is to Buenos Aires.




Argentina’s president rocked by biggest protest for a decade.

Side note: In March the Falkland Islanders will vote on what they want. However I'm pretty sure they aren't going to vote to join a country that killed their family and friends.

Fluo fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Jan 5, 2013

Purgey
Nov 5, 2008

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Aside from political maneuvering and naval basing, what is the value of the Malvinas/Falkland Islands? I've had the impression that their main resource is sheep.

The Falklands holds a 2:1 sheep port which is vital to a sheep heavy player like Britain. Trading with Argentina is out of the question since Britain sent a robber to sit on their sole brick supply for five whole turns.

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005
If the people living there want to continue to be part of the UK, what claim does Argentina have?

Serbian leaflet in Kosovo:



edit: Never realized how much the modern German headgear looks like the Death's Head.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Armyman25 posted:

If the people living there want to continue to be part of the UK, what claim does Argentina have?

Serbian leaflet in Kosovo:



edit: Never realized how much the modern German headgear looks like the Death's Head.

A part of it was Spanish for a small time before they were a country but it was British before they were a country. Also its closer to Buenos Aires then London. That's it. That's their claim and Sean Penn should gently caress off. A lot of it is national pride. (Have a satirical article) Sean Penn should return his Malibu estate to the Mexicans.






Weapons piled after the war.


The famous photo a column of 45 Royal Marine Commandoes march towards Port Stanley.


On 2 April 1982 Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands. A small contingent of Royal Marines was overrun by an Argentine force ending nearly 150 years rule.



On 20 May UN-sponsored peace talks failed. Within 24 hours UK special forces and Royal Marines stormed ashore and established a beachhead at San Carlos on East Falkland. The night landings - undertaken during a gale - achieved complete surprise.



Argentine air attacks proved costly, and before the beachhead broke out HMS Ardent, Antelope and Coventry were all sunk. The Atlantic Conveyor also went down with the loss of its troop-carrying Chinook helicopters, and key equipment necessary to re-capture the islands.


The British task force depended on its two aircraft carriers and it was with this in mind that Mrs Thatcher said she permitted the controversial sinking by nuclear submarine HMS Conqueror of Argentine cruiser General Belgrano, resulting in the deaths of 368 of her crew.


Without the heavy helicopters the British troops had to march to their first major objective – the heavily defended settlement at Goose Green. Colonel H Jones led 2 Para to victory, but was killed during the assault. He was later awarded the Victoria Cross.



The battle had claimed nearly 250 Argentine and 18 British soldiers’ lives, with many more wounded and over 1,000 Argentines taken prisoner. Now the British forces could begin their preparations to take the final prize, the Falklands' capital Stanley.



On 8 June five Argentine planes hit two British supply ships, Sir Galahad and Sir Tristram, in Fitzroy. Around 200 men, many of them Welsh Guards, were killed or injured as the Argentine bombs ignited the huge amount of explosives the ship was carrying.



Although some Argentine resistance had been fierce, poor food and clothing and fractious relations between some officers and men had sapped their morale. The British took 10,000 prisoners of war.




Hostilities formally ceased on 20 June 1982. By the time the task force returned to Portsmouth the conflict had claimed 913 lives - 655 Argentines, 255 British troops and three Falkland islanders.

Fluo fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Jan 5, 2013

Senor P.
Mar 27, 2006
I MUST TELL YOU HOW PEOPLE CARE ABOUT STUFF I DONT AND BE A COMPLETE CUNT ABOUT IT
I've been gone the last couple of weeks but there were a few posts I wanted to respond to.


BUSH 2112 posted:

(If you aren't familiar with the situation, they accidentally, due to a malfunctioning valve, exposed the core and actually did cause a core melt, but they had no way of knowing what they were doing, because the plant design was so complex.)

Yes and no. The accident was caused by the relief valve. However, the procedure the operators followed at the time resulted in causing more damage that could have been contained. (I'm having difficulty finding the source, but it is an interview with one of the operators of the plant a few years ago, discussing it. I had another plant operator comment that they would have made the same mistake had they been there at that time.)


NRC Source

BUSH 2112 posted:

But, the US power plant design was basically just a huge version of the nuclear reactor used in submarines, which was never meant to be operated on the scale they operate on. I mean, poo poo, I live like 30 miles from this power plant, and it's kind of scary to imagine what would happen if a meltdown occurred.
Which plant are you talking about? What is your source on this? What part of reactor design are you talking about? Fuel rods?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Keep on Truckin'
Interesting fact abou the General Belgrano: It started life as the USS Phoenix, one of the ships to avoid being sunk at Pearl Harbour

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008
The Falklands is quite literally the best whipping boy for both Argentina and the UK. Argentina tried to score points against some islands while continuing the Dirty War while the Brits could be seen "liberating Englishmen" while killing the Irish now and the Kenyans mere years earlier. Hell, at least the Falklands War led to the junta in Argentina collapsing, it is a drat shame it allowed the junta in Downing Street to flourish.



A cartoon by Ralph Steadman, it's Thatcher being haunted by the ARA General Belgrano, an Argentine cruiser leaving the British Declared Exclusion Zone that was ordered to be sunk personally by Maggie.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

LP97S posted:

A cartoon by Ralph Steadman,

Gerald Scarfe :eng101:



Fluo
May 25, 2007

LP97S posted:

The Falklands is quite literally the best whipping boy for both Argentina and the UK. Argentina tried to score points against some islands while continuing the Dirty War while the Brits could be seen "liberating Englishmen" while killing the Irish now and the Kenyans mere years earlier. Hell, at least the Falklands War led to the junta in Argentina collapsing, it is a drat shame it allowed the junta in Downing Street to flourish.



A cartoon by Ralph Steadman, it's Thatcher being haunted by the ARA General Belgrano, an Argentine cruiser leaving the British Declared Exclusion Zone that was ordered to be sunk personally by Maggie.

Falkland islanderss don't class themselves as English.

quote:

About 70 percent are of British descent, primarily as a result of Scottish and Welsh immigration to the islands. The native-born inhabitants call themselves "Islanders"; the term "Kelpers", from the kelp which grows profusely around the islands, is no longer used in the Islands. People from the United Kingdom who have obtained Falkland Island status are known locally as 'belongers'.
A few Islanders are of French, Gibraltarian, Portuguese and Scandinavian descent. Some are the descendants of whalers who reached the Islands during the last two centuries. There is also a small minority of South American, mainly Chilean origin, and in more recent times many people from Saint Helena have also come to work and live in the Islands

Mixing British with Englishmen mid flow, please don't do this. :(




Gerald Scarfe owns. Some of his stuff gets posted on the UK cartoon thread.



Ralph Steadman is a bit different style, more bad acid trippy. :3:



Fluo fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Jan 5, 2013

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008
I apologize for mistaking Gerald Scarfe's work for Ralph Steadman's, both are very good artist with good styles. I also apologize for making someone post the worst wikipedia image ever made.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

LP97S posted:

I apologize for mistaking Gerald Scarfe's work for Ralph Steadmans. I also apologize for making someone post the worst wikipedia image ever made.



Didn't get it from wikipedia, however its a simple way of showing you that there is a difference between English, British, UK etc.

Could post some other ones for you.



It's as ignorant as thinking Africa is a country.



Some of the missing from Argentina's dirty war during the 1970s killing several thousand left wing activists including trade unionists, students, journalists, marxists among others.

quote:

Declassified documents of the Chilean secret police cite an official estimate by the Batallón de Inteligencia 601 of 22,000 killed or "disappeared" between 1975 and mid-1978, while other estimates for the number of people who were killed or "disappeared" range from 9,089 to over 30,000 in the period spanning between 1976 and 1983 when the military was forced from power; the National Commission on the Disappearance of Persons estimates that around 13,000 disappeared

Fluo fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Jan 5, 2013

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Fluo posted:



Some of the missing from Argentina's dirty war during the 1970s killing several thousand left wing activists including trade unionists, students, journalists, marxists among others.

Are you trying to suggest that because someone thinks the Malvinas belong to Argentina, they also supported the Dirty War?

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Badger of Basra posted:

Are you trying to suggest that because someone thinks the Malvinas belong to Argentina, they also supported the Dirty War?



Nope. But they can think all they like, I may think France belongs to Germans, doesn't mean its true.


Emilio Massera (October 19, 1925 – November 8, 2010)Emilio Massera, friend of the USA, was the classic admiral.
He believed in 'duty', 'rationality', 'obedience', 'patriotism' and 'sacrifice'.


Emilio Massera was the leading figure in the three man fascist military junta which came to power in Argentina in 1976.


State Department documents obtained by the National Security Archive under the Freedom of Information Act show that in October 1976, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and high-ranking U.S. officials gave their full support to the Argentine military junta.



I laughed.

Fluo fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Jan 5, 2013

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Fluo posted:

Nope. But they can think all they like, I may think France belongs to Germans, doesn't mean its true.


Emilio Massero (October 19, 1925 – November 8, 2010)Emilio Massera, friend of the USA, was the classic admiral.
He believed in 'duty', 'rationality', 'obedience', 'patriotism' and 'sacrifice'.


Margaret Thatcher (13 October 1925 - present [sadly]): friend of the USA, milk snatcher, killed 323 Argentine soldiers when she had the ARA Belgrano sunk outside the exclusion zone

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Badger of Basra posted:


Margaret Thatcher (13 October 1925 - present [sadly]): friend of the USA, milk snatcher, killed 323 Argentine soldiers when she had the ARA Belgrano sunk outside the exclusion zone

Indeed Thatcher is a monster. However Falklands War wasn't started by her.




Fluo fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Jan 5, 2013

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008

Badger of Basra posted:


Margaret Thatcher (13 October 1925 - present [sadly]): friend of the USA, milk snatcher, killed 323 Argentine soldiers when she had the ARA Belgrano sunk outside the exclusion zone

I said it earlier, the worst outcome of the Falklands War was Maggie getting that mandate. No offense to the Argentine conscripts and Brits/Hong Kong citizens/Ghurkas who died in the conflict, but she did a terrible job in the UK and is rembered as a good. The worst thing was that she wasn't killed by the Provos in 84.



Obviously, it's a shame that those 5 individuals died along with the 31 injured, but for fucks sake they tried to kill Maggie.

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Keep on Truckin'

LP97S posted:

I said it earlier, the worst outcome of the Falklands War was Maggie getting that mandate. No offense to the Argentine conscripts and Brits/Hong Kong citizens/Ghurkas who died in the conflict, but she did a terrible job in the UK and is rembered as a good. The worst thing was that she wasn't killed by the Provos in 84.



Obviously, it's a shame that those 5 individuals died along with the 31 injured, but for fucks sake they tried to kill Maggie.

In some ways it's better that she didn't. She's already a Tory pin up. Could you imagine how terrible they'd be if they were able to confer martyrdom on her?

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

LP97S posted:

I said it earlier, the worst outcome of the Falklands War was Maggie getting that mandate. No offense to the Argentine conscripts and Brits/Hong Kong citizens/Ghurkas who died in the conflict, but she did a terrible job in the UK and is rembered as a good. The worst thing was that she wasn't killed by the Provos in 84.



Obviously, it's a shame that those 5 individuals died along with the 31 injured, but for fucks sake they tried to kill Maggie.

No I totally agree, she is the UK's Reagan, and I don't mean that in a good way. I just think it's kind of offensive to insinuate that if you think the Argentines have a valid claim you're a supporter of the junta.


This is the former ESMA (Escuela de Mecánica de la Armada, Navy School of Mechanics) in the city of Buenos Aires, used as a torture center during the dictatorship. Massera had his own bank of educated captured dissidents he used to produce propaganda for his attempt at securing power for himself (real power at the time was held by Jorge Rafael Videla, head of the army). Massera was a pretty weird and terrible guy and was definitely very close of a fascist if not an actual one, not that I can say for sure if he was or wasn't.

Today the ex-ESMA is a museum and memorial to the tortured and disappeared.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Experto Crede posted:

In some ways it's better that she didn't. She's already a Tory pin up. Could you imagine how terrible they'd be if they were able to confer martyrdom on her?



:gonk: The Horror.




William Hague's as a 16-year-old at the 1977 conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL_p9qjfu5U
:suicide:



Harry Enfield parody.

Fluo fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Jan 5, 2013

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Badger of Basra posted:

No I totally agree, she is the UK's Reagan, and I don't mean that in a good way. I just think it's kind of offensive to insinuate that if you think the Argentines have a valid claim you're a supporter of the junta.


This is the former ESMA (Escuela de Mecánica de la Armada, Navy School of Mechanics) in the city of Buenos Aires, used as a torture center during the dictatorship. Massera had his own bank of educated captured dissidents he used to produce propaganda for his attempt at securing power for himself (real power at the time was held by Jorge Rafael Videla, head of the army). Massera was a pretty weird and terrible guy and was definitely very close of a fascist if not an actual one, not that I can say for sure if he was or wasn't.

Today the ex-ESMA is a museum and memorial to the tortured and disappeared.

May I ask the reasons you think Argentina has a claim on the Falklands?

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


on the other hand, the Falklands War gave us Steve Bell's penguins, so it's a net positive:

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

You can play a free game about being a sheep on the falklands.
http://www.terrorbullgames.co.uk/games/ewe_of_the_falklands_vngame.php



The company who made that also made the 'War on Terror' Boardgame:



As well as 'Crunch' a card game about the banking crisis:

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.


Queen Elizabeth Land, formerly known as British Antarctica. Kirchner also bravely stood up to the imperialist pigdogs of Britain and demanded the repatriation of the territory back to Argentina.

There's just two problems, though: one, all claims on Antarctic land have been frozen since the sixties; and two, Argentina never claimed that land until the 1950s (whereas the UK has claimed the land under res nullius since the original Antarctic expeditions).



Morrissey, former vocalist for The Smiths, is a famous ally of the Argentinian cause, and all other progressive left-wing supposedly anti-imperialist causes. Except for when he's saying that British identity has "disappeared" because of immigration or when he's calling the population of China a "sub-species".

Juando290
Apr 22, 2007

You stopped toe curlin in the hot tub cause you heard sperms stay alive in there and you have seen Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles enough times to know how that story ends.


Sadly, I got this picture from an aquantances Facebook, who posted it unironically. This is how she lives her life. She dresses in 1950s attire and serves her military husband as close to this as she can muster.

In high school she wanted to be a senator and had gotten a full ride to an ivy league college.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005



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Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Juando290 posted:



Sadly, I got this picture from an aquantances Facebook, who posted it unironically. This is how she lives her life. She dresses in 1950s attire and serves her military husband as close to this as she can muster.

In high school she wanted to be a senator and had gotten a full ride to an ivy league college.

I'd troll her a bit: what if the husband's decisions have a negative effect on the children? For instance, what would you do if Daddy were spending the kids' college funds on hookers and blow? Don't your duties as a mother outweigh your duties as a wife?

Depending on her response, you can accuse her of a) not caring about children or b) being a hypocrite.:smug:

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Dec 8, 2011

gently caress off with that British Isles poo poo, we're not part of you and haven't been for nearly a century.



Ireland is composed of 4 provinces which are divided into 32 counties, 26 free and 6 under British rule. Of the 6 counties of Northern Ireland, the southwestern half tend republican and the northeast trending unionist. Interestingly, church attendance is a strong predictor of unionist politics but not of republican ones. :eng101:

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