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CNClab 2021 posted:im taking my first programming class this quarter in c. how lovely can i expect this to be? quote:an irl cs major just said to pay attention when we move into pointers.
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CNClab 2021 posted:im taking my first programming class this quarter in c. how lovely can i expect this to be? an irl cs major just said to pay attention when we move into pointers. do what i did and never turn up to a single programming class ever
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Jan 6, 2013 21:40
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p.sure programming lectures only exist for completeness and don't actually teach anyone anything
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Jan 6, 2013 21:43
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no they actually do teach stuff, idgi why would you enroll and not try to get your money's worth
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Jan 6, 2013 21:55
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i don't get much out of lectures usually but that's just me, i get way more out of graded and structured homework than listening to someone talk for an hour and a half. do whatever works for u
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Jan 6, 2013 22:06
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c is great, you should learn it. then learn python, and how to write python extensions in c
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Jan 6, 2013 22:07
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Gazpacho posted:no they actually do teach stuff, idgi why would you enroll and not try to get your money's worth to get a piece of paper required by every employer????????
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Jan 6, 2013 22:09
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anal volcano take notes
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Jan 6, 2013 22:11
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Gazpacho posted:no they actually do teach stuff, idgi why would you enroll and not try to get your money's worth because unless your courses have lab components, the only way you are going to learn anything is by physically writing code, and a lecture is not going to teach you how to do that.
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Jan 6, 2013 22:11
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Jerry SanDisky posted:c is great, you should learn it. then learn python, and how to write python extensions in c learn python first, c will make you hate computers
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Jan 6, 2013 22:11
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realtalkgucci void main posted:because unless your courses have lab components, the only way you are going to learn anything is by physically writing code, and a lecture is not going to teach you how to do that. gucci void main posted:because unless your courses have lab components, the only way you are going to learn anything is by physically writing code, and a lecture is not going to teach you how to do that. gucci void main posted:because unless your courses have lab components, the only way you are going to learn anything is by physically writing code, and a lecture is not going to teach you how to do that. gucci void main posted:because unless your courses have lab components, the only way you are going to learn anything is by physically writing code, and a lecture is not going to teach you how to do that. gucci void main posted:because unless your courses have lab components, the only way you are going to learn anything is by physically writing code, and a lecture is not going to teach you how to do that. gucci void main posted:because unless your courses have lab components, the only way you are going to learn anything is by physically writing code, and a lecture is not going to teach you how to do that.
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Jan 6, 2013 22:12
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:anal volcano take notes opened this page of the thread in the same minute that you posted this, kind of freaked out right now
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Jan 6, 2013 22:12
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i took college classes for g code which is pretty lol but atleast i can write something any human can read so there is that i guess.
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Jan 6, 2013 22:12
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i always tell people you'll learn more in five minutes of programming than five hours of reading blog posts and stack homeworkflow
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Jan 6, 2013 22:12
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yeah labs are a-okay, go to those
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Jan 6, 2013 22:12
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i didn't say go only to the lectures, god for people who went to college you guys are dumb
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Jan 6, 2013 22:13
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abraham linksys posted:opened this page of the thread in the same minute that you posted this, kind of freaked out right now actually it's fate.
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Jan 6, 2013 22:13
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Gazpacho posted:i didn't say go only to the lectures, god for people who went to college you guys are dumb i'm saying don't go to the lectures because they are wasting ur time
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Jan 6, 2013 22:13
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:i'm saying don't go to the lectures because they are wasting ur time bitch if youre in college, go to class like you have anything more important to do
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Jan 6, 2013 22:15
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Jerry SanDisky posted:c is great, you should learn it. then learn python, and how to write python extensions in c sometimes i want to learn python extensions but the code looks really awful to write
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Jan 6, 2013 22:15
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Cocoa Crispies posted:i always tell people you'll learn more in five minutes of programming than five hours of reading blog posts and stack homeworkflow i think that if you legitimately read solutions on SO instead of copying and pasting every solution, there's a good deal to be learned. if anything, it at least helps prove a certain level of resourcefulness which isn't taught in a typical curriculum. you'll more or less have to turn to it or an irc channel at some point in your career if you're even remotely capable/successful, so knowing that those things exist is nice. blog posts are a different thing entirely and it's funny how many of them HN has, all written by various nobodies who think they've come across something new and incredible for the first time.
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Jan 6, 2013 22:15
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Jonny 290 posted:bitch if youre in college, go to class i did it was sit around all day and not go to programming class and get the best grades anyway
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Jan 6, 2013 22:16
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:sometimes i want to learn python extensions but the code looks really awful to write it is. check out Boost.Python for a slightly saner but still horrible way write native extensions
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Jan 6, 2013 22:16
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gucci void main posted:because unless your courses have lab components, the only way you are going to learn anything is by physically writing code, and a lecture is not going to teach you how to do that. yeah there is a lab and afaik structured homework. Cocoa Crispies posted:learn python first, c will make you hate computers ive been doing python exercises out of a book since break started and some javascript stuff from code academy so i hope it helps but so far it feels like im following instructions instead of learning a toolset. my choices are c or java as far as intro classes go.
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Jan 6, 2013 22:20
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CNClab 2021 posted:yeah there is a lab and afaik structured homework. i bought effective javascript and it's not bad so far and tells you about everything horrible in the language (aka everything)
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Jan 6, 2013 22:23
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tef posted:that's the problem. it doesn't really have much of a syntax. Did you just quote larry wall saying that Lisp is ugly?
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Jan 6, 2013 22:31
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CNClab 2021 posted:yeah there is a lab and afaik structured homework. a friend of mine linked me to http://ruby.bastardsbook.com/toc/ because it has a nice list of projects at the back so go do some of those projects and report back
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Jan 6, 2013 22:32
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WHOIS John Galt posted:wow yeah let me bitch about the syntax of a language whose syntax contains literally 11 characters writing pet languages in a small syntax is a feature *sets building on fire*
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Jan 6, 2013 22:32
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gucci void main posted:i bought effective javascript and it's not bad so far and tells you about everything horrible in the language (aka everything) if you buy this book direct from the publisher and fill out a short survey about your job you get 30% off
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Jan 6, 2013 22:33
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here have some p langs http://www.pltgames.com/
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Jan 6, 2013 22:37
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Toady posted:writing pet languages in a small syntax is a feature *sets building on fire* only not my common lisp experience is both pretty limited and dated, but i have never needed to use a codebase that made extensive use of DSLs think of graham's "on lisp" like a skateboard video: it's cool to watch, but you never, ever do these things at home. edit: prime example -- the loving nested macros used everywhere
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Jan 6, 2013 22:58
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Nomnom Cookie posted:Macros are ugly as poo poo sorry macros are one of those hugely abuse-able features that never fail to provoke controversy, kinda like operator overloading or multiple inheritance or duck typing. there are good uses and bad uses and it is left to the developer to puzzle out which is which having macros does not automatically make the language bad or ugly
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Jan 6, 2013 22:59
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:having macros does not automatically make the language bad or ugly just using them makes the code terrible
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Jan 6, 2013 23:31
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'Beauty is truth, truth beauty,--that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.'
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Jan 6, 2013 23:34
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Cocoa Crispies posted:i always tell people you'll learn more in five minutes of programming than five hours of reading blog posts and stack homeworkflow on the other hand sometimes you'll learn more from other people's code
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Jan 6, 2013 23:36
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tef posted:just using them makes the code terrible what do you think about template haskell
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Jan 6, 2013 23:36
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CNClab 2021 posted:im taking my first programming class this quarter in c. how lovely can i expect this to be? an irl cs major just said to pay attention when we move into pointers. the chances are it will be pretty awful, c or not.
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Jan 6, 2013 23:40
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the only entertaining thing about 100/200 level cs courses is watching the class size dwindle down as the semester moves along
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Jan 6, 2013 23:41
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Jonny 290 posted:bitch if youre in college, go to class
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:sometimes i want to learn python extensions but the code looks really awful to write do lua instead, adding extensions is easy.
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