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lol yeah ma n that sure is a valid fear in this day and age. What if my editor rakes up EIUGHT MEGABYRES OF RAM
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Jerry SanDisky posted:even if you use st2 for your day-to-day work, its still worth learning vim because every system on the planet that you will ever ssh to will have vim installed and you might need to edit something sftp file to my computer, edit in whatever I want, sftp back gently caress you dad
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Jan 8, 2013 00:17
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Hard NOP Life posted:sftp file to my computer, edit in whatever I want, sftp back oh yeah let me do that 100 times to get this script running
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Jan 8, 2013 00:20
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Hey, boss, I don't know how to use vi! How do I SFTP this file to my laptop so I can edit it with Blue's News TextWranglerMateCoolEdit++? I kind of have a workflow and all.
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Jan 8, 2013 00:21
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Hard NOP Life posted:sftp file to my computer, edit in whatever I want, sftp back oh my god seriously emacs has built in ssh, you can open and edit remote files, you can run remote directory listings, you can even do poo poo like grep and find and they'll be run on the remote machine with the results returned to you in an interactive buffer
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Hard NOP Life posted:sftp file to my computer, edit in whatever I want, sftp back 
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Jan 8, 2013 00:22
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WHOIS John Galt posted:oh my god lol emacs is so terrible
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Jan 8, 2013 00:24
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Jonny 290 posted:oh yeah let me do that 100 times to get this script running lmao if you don't get it right the first time also nano completely circumvents the issue of having to learn vi to do a one off edit on a remote file
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Jan 8, 2013 00:25
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JawnV6 posted:eight megs and constantly swapping Escape Meta Alt Control Shift
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Jan 8, 2013 00:26
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polpotpi posted:lol emacs is so terrible congrats re: being a loving idiot who eats turds
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Jan 8, 2013 00:28
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WHOIS John Galt posted:congrats re: being a loving idiot who eats turds no, there's a plugin for that
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Jan 8, 2013 00:29
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emacs is for crusty greybeards eclipse is for Enterprise Developers vim is for programmers
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Jan 8, 2013 00:31
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what about IDEA 
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Jan 8, 2013 00:31
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hey guys, check it out: smug assertion! thing is for people! thing is good! other thing is bad! hit me up if you want more of these cool great (+smart) posts wait here comes another one *sticks finger down throat*
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Jan 8, 2013 00:32
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IDEA is so great and rotor is so great for recommending it 
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Jan 8, 2013 00:32
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Meta post! So Clever!
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Jan 8, 2013 00:33
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WHOIS John Galt posted:hey guys, check it out: i'm still not wrong
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Jan 8, 2013 00:34
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MononcQc posted:Meta post! So Clever! you also own for teaching me erlang today is love day
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Jan 8, 2013 00:34
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Jerry SanDisky posted:IDEA is so great and rotor is so great for recommending it i'm so pissed i didn't get it when they were doing their mayan calendar rollover sale (b'ak'tun for you plebs)
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Jan 8, 2013 00:35
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IDEA is the only thing that makes Java remotely tolerable.
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Tiny Bug Child posted:emacs is for crusty greybeards
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Jan 8, 2013 00:42
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thats twice ive empty quoted tbc in a day, that's two times over my quota
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Jan 8, 2013 00:42
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:thats twice ive empty quoted tbc in a day, that's two times over my quota but 2 times 0 is still 0
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Jan 8, 2013 01:13
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spongeh posted:but 2 times 0 is still 0 php can't tell the difference
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hey guys i found this eloquent argument for emacs being a bloated pice of shiWHOIS John Galt posted:oh my god
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JawnV6 posted:hey guys i found this eloquent argument for emacs being a bloated pice of shi bloat·ed; n. much bigger than desired emacs is not bloated because its features are desired
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Jan 8, 2013 02:24
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it might be desirable for most programmers to have a function with which they could order dominos pizza with, that doesn't mean it wouldn't be bloated though
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:it might be desirable for most programmers to have a function with which they could order dominos pizza with, that doesn't mean it wouldn't be bloated though the programmer becomes bloated not the editor notably the editor will not die of heart disease fifteen years later
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Jan 8, 2013 02:33
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sgi's internal irix builds had a burrito command that ordered mexican for delivery
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Otto Skorzeny posted:sgi's internal irix builds had a burrito command that ordered mexican for delivery this command was also eight megs and constantly swapping. because irix  http://yarchive.net/risks/sgi_irix.html SGI circa 1993 posted:But bloat isn't the whole story. Rocky Rhodes recently ran a small
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Jan 8, 2013 02:35
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ahahahahaha i know exactly why that's happening and its bcuz of x11 stupidity and i can explain it if u want
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Jan 8, 2013 02:45
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Suspicious Dish posted:its bcuz of x11 stupidity and i can explain it if u want what do you think it is? My guess would have been they're doing an expensive (lol) menu draw for every single "the mouse moved 1 px" event, which they get a large queue of because they're not handling events properly. But that's not really x11 stupidity, so what's your guess?
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Jan 8, 2013 02:58
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motif takes a sync grab for menus which means that you freeze the event queue and then call xallowevents to step through events one by one menus take a sync grab bcuz network connections are bad so some body who was two fast could be trained to click on an item before the menu window is mapped
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Suspicious Dish posted:motif takes a sync grab for menus which means that you freeze the event queue and then call xallowevents to step through events one by one congratulations you diagnosed a bug from 1993 sgi and irix are both dead tho and the memo is really long and still relevant. basically they had the exact same problems 20 years ago with C and C++ that we still have in every large project today
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Jan 8, 2013 03:23
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an edlin menu beat the artisinal bespoke 486 power virus at it's own game
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WHOIS John Galt posted:emacs is not bloated because its features are desired pervert
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also yeah this is a good read
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Emacs is basically a self-contained environment so that you do all of your computing from inside Emacs, and it's really good at that. It has modes for everything, everything is integrated and can use the same keychords/functions, it's easy to extend it, and you never have to leave the keyboard. If you don't want to adopt the Emacs way of life, then vim is better at being a text editor. So essentially that joke about Emacs is a good OS that just needs a decent text editor is true.
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prefect posted:I would have said Vim until I was introduced to Sublime Text 2. It's pretty sweet.
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