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oh also i got an sql book b/c i need to work on our time clock system some this spring and need to kind of brush up in hindsight i should have gotten a book that covers nosql for futureproofing but whatever, i'll deal sandisky: recognized
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theres no books on nosql cause theres around a billion implementations of document based or key/value stores and they all have their own unique quirks. good nosql: riak jetdb memcache berkleydb MongoDB
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Jan 9, 2013 15:58
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nosql was invented by lotus for use in notes/domino
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Jan 9, 2013 16:04
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it's called nosql bcuz when somebdy uses it you can slap them and say 'no! sql.' and then point them to a good db
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Shaggar posted:nosql was invented by lotus for use in notes/domino yes shaggar, thank you for reminding us
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Tiny Bug Child posted:please describe a real world scenario where you actually need to do this comparing strings, in case they happen to contain digits Cocoa Crispies posted:you know drat well php fucks it up the exact same way
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Jan 9, 2013 16:07
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Shaggar posted:nosql was invented by lotus for use in notes/domino Personal Home Page
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polpotpi posted:theres no books on nosql cause theres around a billion implementations of document based or key/value stores and they all have their own unique quirks. riak is poo poo if you want to query, just use postgres jetdb is microsoft poo poo from the late '80s, use postgres memcache is a cache not a db, fix your postgres queries berkleydb is poo poo if you want to use a network, use postgres mongo is unreliable trash that's hard to query, use postgres
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Jan 9, 2013 16:10
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use hstore in postgres, be double web scale http://blog.creapptives.com/post/14062057061/the-key-value-store-everyone-ignored-postgresql
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I've always thought Postgres looked pretty cool, but everybody uses Mysql instead. Am I the crazy one?
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or use mongo has a storage engine for postgres
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prefect posted:I've always thought Postgres looked pretty cool, but everybody uses Mysql instead. Am I the crazy one? mysql is the php of databases, inexplicably popular and you can kind of mash it into a working state given enough time but it does a lot of stuff wrong and will actively lie to you
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or use sql server like a big boy instead of postgres poo poo
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prefect posted:I've always thought Postgres looked pretty cool, but everybody uses Mysql instead. Am I the crazy one? use postgres
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polpotpi posted:or use sql server like a big boy instead of postgres poo poo
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polpotpi posted:or use sql server like a big boy instead of postgres poo poo ah yes, like a big boy *clicks through interactive "wizards" to configure a database*
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ugh a wizard??? that's going to configure your database properly!! gently caress that! here just install this open sores that comes broken out of the box and learn 2 fix it. that's the real way to do it. also don't forget about these 10000 undocumented features that are critical to it working properly.
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Shaggar posted:here just install this open sores that comes broken out of the box and learn 2 fix it. that's mysql
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Shaggar posted:ugh a wizard??? that's going to configure your database properly!! gently caress that! do you have a few google links that consist of some obscure linux forum, a post requesting help and an angry post from a moderator closing their inquiry because it was posted in the wrong subforum? thats what i really need to get this thing humming
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Jan 9, 2013 16:28
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this was posted on the mailing list 3 years ago, god. just read the loving archives. no search doesn't work. you cant search an archives, idiot.
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Jonny 290 posted:i read chap1 of my first javabook last night. what book did you get
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no of COURSE you can't do that - but really, why would you want to? give me one good reason why you'd want to. okay, two- three- TEN good reasons why on earth you'd ever want to do that. loving luser
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Jan 9, 2013 16:54
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*closes eyes, long, slow sigh* http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Android-Generation-Mobile-Devices/dp/1449316646 *begins typing explanation post even before you reply with the "jonny no"*
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Jonny 290 posted:*closes eyes, long, slow sigh* ANDROID FOR GENERATION MOBILE
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basically i can keep my boss and the three above him happy if i 'work on getting familiar with android app programming' in 2013 and get my ccna-wireless this doesnt mean that im going to be writing anger birds for droids, ever, though. i have zero interest in professionally writing android applications. mainly just going to learn java itself and perhaps how to write some utils and scripts to give work value, and i figured hell, picking up some java on android has got to be more engaging than some 1500-page Enterrpise Java For The Java Enterprise, Here's How To Deploy A System Way Larger Than You'll Ever Actually Touch books
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well as long as all that matters is keeping your owners happy go nuts
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a guy in the android thread in coc went crazy and had to take a leave of absence to get away from android
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Jerry SanDisky posted:a guy in the android thread in coc went crazy and had to take a leave of absence to get away from android this is a realistic threat that is in no way borne of only examining superficials
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jonny mentioned before that he will only be required to support one particular device which is like the best-case android scenario but I'm sure its still somewhat awful
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:also generating anything in json in perl sucks poo poo unironically use JSON; my $dilz = { 'Penis' => 'Vagina' }; my $json = to_json($dilz);
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speaking of json, the rails update to fix that big security vulnerability broke json parsing https://github.com/rails/rails/issues/8832
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"We had to work around this in production just after we deployed 3.2.11." rails is great
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EVGA Longoria posted:use JSON; that's not the lovely part about it
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Cocoa Crispies posted:comparing strings, in case they happen to contain digits the code you have quoted is not a real world scenario. it is a snippet that serves no useful purpose and was only written to demonstrate a super-edge case. == is perfectly adequate, and even preferable in most actual cases, when comparing strings
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try building a huge perl data structure using just arrayrefs and hashrefs to represent a large complex config file, which also needs to be validated, and see how much pain your rear end has
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with XML::LibXML it's as easy as adding node elements to other node elements and setting they attributes accordingly. i dunno if there is a similar thing with json but i really don't give a gently caress since our config files are in XML format anyway.
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:i dunno if there is a similar thing with X but i really don't give a gently caress since Y works anyway.
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tef i remember you talking about baking web security into types, like having explicit type conversions from unsafe strings to safe strings, and etc. did you elaborate on that anywhere? is there particular research you were looking at?
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