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butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

SlayVus posted:

Luck in chests and gear combination got me to floor 43 where I died.


I wish the lantern was easier to get. Stepping on poison squares drives me nuts!

On the character select screen, there's a skull attribute, and as far as I can tell it's difficulty level, because the assassin starts out fighting much stronger monsters. How does that number actually work? And how does initiative work? Is that your % chance of striking first?

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iceyman
Jul 11, 2001

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

I wish the lantern was easier to get. Stepping on poison squares drives me nuts!

On the character select screen, there's a skull attribute, and as far as I can tell it's difficulty level, because the assassin starts out fighting much stronger monsters. How does that number actually work? And how does initiative work? Is that your % chance of striking first?

I do think the Lantern is the best item because avoiding traps early on saves you a ton of nickle and dime HP along the way.

The skull is your chance of critical. The boots are initiative. Initiative is your chance to strike first and (if powerful enough) potentially kill the mob with out retaliation.

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:

Pablo Gigante posted:

I tried it once on PC and it was okay, it had a little bit of latency. The company has gone through some rather dire straits so I don't know how much money I would be willing to spend really.

Congrats on the Nexus 7 though, it's a wonderful tablet :)

Thanks! I think I'll hold off on it then, don't really want to have to rely on them.

1337kutkufan6969
Feb 13, 2010

Oh, Yian Kut Ku!
Where have you been all my life?
Let me break your head.


Grimey Drawer
I have to say, Dungelot has a lot more potential than it delivers on. It seemed really sweet at first, but it's ultimately pretty shallow. There is not enough incentive for attacking enemies. The gameplay isn't different in any meaningful way between the classes. The rewards aren't big enough to encourage a grind. I dunno, it SEEMS so cool at first, but it's been disappointing. It sounds like he has some great ideas for where he'd like to go with it, but I don't understand all the hubbub as is.

iceyman
Jul 11, 2001

The Jorts of Zeus posted:

I have to say, Dungelot has a lot more potential than it delivers on. It seemed really sweet at first, but it's ultimately pretty shallow. There is not enough incentive for attacking enemies. The gameplay isn't different in any meaningful way between the classes. The rewards aren't big enough to encourage a grind. I dunno, it SEEMS so cool at first, but it's been disappointing. It sounds like he has some great ideas for where he'd like to go with it, but I don't understand all the hubbub as is.

I agree. If it had a class/skill system as deep as DungeonRaid, it would be a much more interesting game. It's far too passive for a rouge-like.

Suck-A-Sage
Nov 11, 2008
Someone posted a link to the Dungelot facebook that had posts showing further development e.g. an overhaul to spells and inventory. Off memory, you are limited to 2 spell slots, and you level up spells with money. If you want to change spells you need to discard one that you've slotted. Lantern, compass and map are considered quest items and don't take up inventory space. Introduction of armor, which gives a defense and hp bonus but initiative penalty.

Edit: http://www.facebook.com/Dungelot

Suck-A-Sage fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Jan 11, 2013

Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Suck-A-Sage posted:

Someone posted a link to the Dungelot facebook that had posts showing further development e.g. an overhaul to spells and inventory. Off memory, you are limited to 2 spell slots, and you level up spells with money. If you want to change spells you need to discard one that you've slotted. Lantern, compass and map are considered quest items and don't take up inventory space. Introduction of armor, which gives a defense and hp bonus but initiative penalty.
Yep, I posted that. It's easy to find via Google if anyone wants to see it. The dev has also talked about weapon types with different bonuses, and some kind of weird emotion system.

Cruseydr
May 18, 2010

I am not an atomic playboy.
Today's free app of the day on Amazon is Block Story, one of the Minecraft clones!

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Triple Town is so chill. No idea why but the little sound effects for the villagers talking just relaxes me to no end.

robin_ac30
Sep 15, 2005

i'm getting too young for this
Wahey! The Lords Of Midnight is finally out for Android. Never managed to complete this fully on the Spectrum, Morkin always ended up dying...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chilli.midnight

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


robin_ac30 posted:

Wahey! The Lords Of Midnight is finally out for Android. Never managed to complete this fully on the Spectrum, Morkin always ended up dying...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chilli.midnight

That looks pretty hideous, why is it worth $5?

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?
Because nostalgia makes people lose their price sensitivity, at a guess.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Tunga posted:

Yep, I posted that. It's easy to find via Google if anyone wants to see it. The dev has also talked about weapon types with different bonuses, and some kind of weird emotion system.

I felt sorta similar to The Jorts of Zeus... it's a really fun game, but I'm kinda playing it less and less. But if the maker is gonna developer it this actively, then it's got some serious potential. The Alchemist class (who apparently has a pet?) looks really cool, tool.

Is anyone able to use the fire mages effectively? To me it seems like about 99% of the time they do too small damage to matter at all. I guess if you were lucky they could take out the exploding red bat dudes.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

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XboxPants posted:

Is anyone able to use the fire mages effectively? To me it seems like about 99% of the time they do too small damage to matter at all. I guess if you were lucky they could take out the exploding red bat dudes.
They seem to remove a percentage of health from all monsters, so I don't think they can kill anything at more than one health. They can be the difference between taking one or two attacks to kill a monster, though.

Also gently caress the flying pigs. Taking damage due to doing damage/killing stuff is bullshit in any game and the only way to stop it is to have enough fireballs or burn a polymorph. I guess you could get lucky and get them to 1 health and kill them with lightning or a fire mage but that's pretty rare. If I have a bunch of enemies on the screen and don't know which one has the key, I'm fighting the pigs last because at least there's a chance of killing the others without getting hurt.

robin_ac30
Sep 15, 2005

i'm getting too young for this

victrix posted:

That looks pretty hideous, why is it worth $5?

Heh yeah. Based on the original graphics from 1984 though isn't it.

Excellent game though, and it seems a pretty faithful translation from what I can tell so far...

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

victrix posted:

That looks pretty hideous, why is it worth $5?

Listen son, back then we had 8 colours, and we drat well liked it!

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

victrix posted:

That looks pretty hideous, why is it worth $5?
Because "The Lords of Midnight is not simply an adventure game nor simply a war game. It was really a new type that became known as an epic game, for as you play the Lords of Midnight you will be writing a new chapter in the history of the peoples of the Free."

Davedave24
Mar 11, 2004

Lacking in love
Lords of Midnight seems really cool but i feel like it's going to take some work to really figure out what i'm doing.

I like that the graphics maintain that wierd Spectrum color scheme. Retro asthetics that actually take limitations like attribute clash into account are cool.

Dancer
May 23, 2011

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

They seem to remove a percentage of health from all monsters, so I don't think they can kill anything at more than one health. They can be the difference between taking one or two attacks to kill a monster, though.

Also gently caress the flying pigs. Taking damage due to doing damage/killing stuff is bullshit in any game and the only way to stop it is to have enough fireballs or burn a polymorph. I guess you could get lucky and get them to 1 health and kill them with lightning or a fire mage but that's pretty rare. If I have a bunch of enemies on the screen and don't know which one has the key, I'm fighting the pigs last because at least there's a chance of killing the others without getting hurt.

Well, one solution which you seem to have not noticed, and which would definitely end up useful to you, is damaging it with normal attacks, and *then* casting a fireball (if it can survive one attack from you, the fireball will almost certainly finish it off).

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Dancer posted:

Well, one solution which you seem to have not noticed, and which would definitely end up useful to you, is damaging it with normal attacks, and *then* casting a fireball (if it can survive one attack from you, the fireball will almost certainly finish it off).

Poison also works, but only if you do it just right. If you attack them on the same turn that the poison kills them, it will still deal the extra damage to you. So, you have to whittle them down low enough for a poison to finish them off, then go do something else.

I still agree that they suck though. I also thought the zombies were rough since they have a ton of HP, but then I realized "oh right undead :downs:"

Jeff Goldblum
Dec 3, 2009

Cruseydr posted:

Today's free app of the day on Amazon is Block Story, one of the Minecraft clones!

The Gagnam Style loader should have been an indicator but man that is a bad Minecraft clone.

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


Here's a bit better description of Lords of Midnight than the game-page gives.

http://winterdrake.com/tgoml-the-lords-of-midnight-zx-spectrum-1984/

Hopefully the sequel gets released one day, that's where the real money is

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
So I got sucked into Game Dev Story on my OG Droid back in the day, and then didn't have room for it on my Evo 4G, and now that I've got my Nexus 10 I'm back into it, and discovering that Kairosoft has like 15 new games (I did play a bit of Grand Prix Story when that came out) and I'm wondering which ones I should look at first? My God these games are like crack.

Geektox
Aug 1, 2012

Good people don't rip other people's arms off.
People usually recommend Beastie Bay, which has both city management things and pokemon-esque things. I'm not the biggest fan personally but it's still quite good. The other thread favourite is Dungeon Story which is also my favourite Kairosoft game.

Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer
If you love Game Dev Story then the only three which are the same style ("make a thing then see how good it is") are the racing and football (soccer) games which I forget the exact names of. These are the only the that I've enjoyed. The others are all building/placement games which I found less interesting, but your mileage may vary. And the Pokémon one I've never tried.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
The crazy thing is that Lords of Midnight is no joke the deepest strategy game on Android yet.

I still can't understand why basically the perfect platforms for turn-based strategy games have generated like four decent ones so far, and they're all ports of older games (Ascendancy, King of Dragon Pass, Lords of Midnight, and probably one other I'm forgetting).

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Tunga posted:

If you love Game Dev Story then the only three which are the same style ("make a thing then see how good it is") are the racing and football (soccer) games which I forget the exact names of. These are the only the that I've enjoyed. The others are all building/placement games which I found less interesting, but your mileage may vary. And the Pokémon one I've never tried.

Sushi Spinnery is basically Game Dev Story mixed with the building/placement stuff.

robin_ac30
Sep 15, 2005

i'm getting too young for this

RentACop posted:

Hopefully the sequel gets released one day, that's where the real money is

Too right! Doomdark's Revenge was an incredible sequel. Pretty amazing that they managed to fit that much detail in 48k really.

The guy who did Lords Of Midnight has said on his blog that he'll do Doomdark's Revenge as well.

cool new Metroid game
Oct 7, 2009

hail satan

Sheep posted:

The crazy thing is that Lords of Midnight is no joke the deepest strategy game on Android yet.

I still can't understand why basically the perfect platforms for turn-based strategy games have generated like four decent ones so far, and they're all ports of older games (Ascendancy, King of Dragon Pass, Lords of Midnight, and probably one other I'm forgetting).

I wish King of Dragon Pass was on Android :( DK simulations have a few grognardy low graphics wargames that are alright, there's also a few by Joni Nuutinen. Templar Assault RPG is a pretty cool Space Hulk clone. I wish there were more decent wargames and board game conversions, as you way it really is the perfect platform for them.

AG3
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about spending hundreds of dollars on Mass Effect 2 emoticons and Avatars.

Oven Wrangler

Eej posted:

Sushi Spinnery is basically Game Dev Story mixed with the building/placement stuff.

Sushi Spinnery was fun, but it took me several hours before I got sufficiently used to the short and repetitive music track that it stopped bothering me. At least there's a different (and much more pleasant) track for months where you're advertising for the shop, although it takes some time before you unlock it.

The Muffinlord
Mar 3, 2007

newbid stupie?
I think Grand Prix Story, Dungeon Village, and Kairobotica are worth the cost.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽
Is there any good WarioWare like games for the android at all? Seems like a good platform for it but I can't find anything.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

Dancer posted:

Well, one solution which you seem to have not noticed, and which would definitely end up useful to you, is damaging it with normal attacks, and *then* casting a fireball (if it can survive one attack from you, the fireball will almost certainly finish it off).
That's the method they pitch at you when the pigs first appear. I've almost always found a shop and boosted my attack before they show up and by the time they have more health than I have damage, they're already hitting for 8 or so.

Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

I just started playing a Triple Town clone, Puzzle Forge, and it's even worse than Triple Town. There's no bears loving your poo poo up, there's just you and placing things and stressing yourself out for no reason and it's got a great visual style and it's just so great.

vonManstein
Nov 5, 2006

Whalley posted:

I just started playing a Triple Town clone, Puzzle Forge, and it's even worse than Triple Town. There's no bears loving your poo poo up, there's just you and placing things and stressing yourself out for no reason and it's got a great visual style and it's just so great.

Triple Town has a practice level where no bears appear, I think it only appears if you have purchased unlimited turns.

Krad
Feb 4, 2008

Touche

Harminoff posted:

Is there any good WarioWare like games for the android at all? Seems like a good platform for it but I can't find anything.

The closest thing you'll find is McPixel, although it's more of a Wario Ware-meets-point-and-click-adventure games.

busfahrer
Feb 9, 2012

Ceterum censeo
Carthaginem
esse delendam

Sheep posted:

The crazy thing is that Lords of Midnight is no joke the deepest strategy game on Android yet.

I still can't understand why basically the perfect platforms for turn-based strategy games have generated like four decent ones so far, and they're all ports of older games (Ascendancy, King of Dragon Pass, Lords of Midnight, and probably one other I'm forgetting).

Wait, wait, wait.

Hold on a second.

Ascendancy is on Android? I can't seem to find it. Is there a clone that I don't know the name of? Nobody tells me anything :v:

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Sheep posted:

The crazy thing is that Lords of Midnight is no joke the deepest strategy game on Android yet.

I still can't understand why basically the perfect platforms for turn-based strategy games have generated like four decent ones so far, and they're all ports of older games (Ascendancy, King of Dragon Pass, Lords of Midnight, and probably one other I'm forgetting).

This guy is making a TRPG called Hartacon: http://www.indiegogo.com/hartacon-tactics

Japanese style, like Final Fantasy Tactics of Disgaea. (if you see art from Disgaea, it's just placeholder, don't freak out) It's not really getting any funding though. So, I guess if you wanna see a game like that, here's your chance.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003

busfahrer posted:

Wait, wait, wait.

Hold on a second.

Ascendancy is on Android? I can't seem to find it. Is there a clone that I don't know the name of? Nobody tells me anything :v:

I said platforms, as in, handheld tablets ... so that includes iOS devices :v:

It is a worthy statement because across two entirely different (and incredibly popular) operating systems, there are still only a handful of strategy games, and at least half are ports while the rest generally lack any depth whatsoever. Blows my mind.

Also the fourth I forgot in my original post was Majesty, which is, again, a port.

Edit: there's a killing to be made with Master of Orion (or any other 4X, for that matter) on iOS/Android if whoever owned the rights now would just wise up and do it.

Sheep fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jan 13, 2013

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busfahrer
Feb 9, 2012

Ceterum censeo
Carthaginem
esse delendam

Sheep posted:

I said platforms, as in, handheld tablets ... so that includes iOS devices :v:

Ascendancy is on iOS?

Welp, it's settled. I'm getting an iPad.

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