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A Winner is Jew posted:It's a Wonderful Life, Christmas Vacation, and Die Hard are the only Christmas movies worth watching any way so get away from Home Alone and watch those. Are the MST3K episodes "Santa Claus" and "Santa Claus Conquers The Martians" acceptable alternatives?
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Gremlins is also a good Christmas movie. My exposure to A Christmas Story was in elementary school, I forget which grade, and no one had even heard of it. There was some rule about only watching G-rated stuff, so watching something with a little kid cursing was something special. Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jan 13, 2013 |
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Jan 13, 2013 23:50
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Sephyr posted:That is defining things too broadly, however. Under the same rationale you could say that single payer health care is a conservative idea: think of how ot levels the playing field and makes for happy families while freeing private enterprise to do what it wants to focus on instead of doubling as HMOs! You know, this isn't the reason that I support single-payer, but I've had success using that argument with more conservative-minded people. Framing matters.
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The president of the think tank that literally created the ACA now says the ACA is "a cancer" that is “is fundamentally inconsistent with liberty." Truly, irony is dead.
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quote:[Savage] criticized the Tea Party for lacking a "charismatic leader," saying it needs restructuring and calling it the "rudiment" of the new Nationalist Party. Savage added that the word "nationalism" needs to be redefined after previously being associated with Hitler and the National Socialist Party, the Nazis, of 1930s Germany.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:If he wants to take nationalism away from the Nazis, he needs to stop referring to people as ethnically degenerate. Michael Savage is a barbarian (no pun intended) and a degenerate. The best thing about his call to action is that it will identify a bunch of his fellow travelers and give us a list of people who's opinion we should ignore in the future.
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Jan 14, 2013 04:04
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Bad Santa is the best.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:If he wants to take nationalism away from the Nazis, he needs to stop referring to people as ethnically degenerate. I don't think he 'really' wants to...  (Nor could he if a tiny hack like him tried.) Edit: Apparently even freepers unanimously think Savage is a loving idiot. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Jan 14, 2013 |
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Jan 14, 2013 04:40
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Babylon Astronaut posted:If he wants to take nationalism away from the Nazis, he needs to stop referring to people as ethnically degenerate. Yes, if there's one thing I don't associate with fascists, it's charismatic
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I think every movement can benefit from a charismatic leader, but Savage's plot requires an other. Like Limbaugh, he comes up with catch-phrases for the other: "morally, ethnically, religiously degenerate people" and "people wearing funny hats." The qualms he has with the historical Nazi party are all based on the selection of the other and possibly the treatment of that fascist plot's target. To embrace nationalism is to form a nativist movement so I can't really claim he disavowed Nazi political methodology in any meaningful way.
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Jan 14, 2013 10:48
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From what I hear of Savage, I'm not convinced he's not just an expert troll. Like that Kurt Vonnegut book where the main character was in charge of propoganda and he tried to make Jewish charicatures so offensively over the top that people would realize how dumb an idea antisemitism was... but the public ate it up verbatim. Calling for a 'nationalist' movement that needs a 'Charismatic Leader' to spearhead it is just too close to call.
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The best part for me is where he wants to take nationalism away from the nazis. Literally the only way to do that is to up the ante on atrocity and persecution. (Or engage in holocaust denial.)
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Uhm....so i heard a rummor that Glen beck was starting a city.... Turn's out it is true. He wants to create a libertarian commune in the middle of texas.
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AcidRonin posted:Uhm....so i heard a rummor that Glen beck was starting a city.... Turn's out it is true. He wants to create a libertarian commune in the middle of texas. It's a ponzi scheme. It was discussed in the Freep thread.
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Cheekio posted:From what I hear of Savage, I'm not convinced he's not just an expert troll. Like that Kurt Vonnegut book where the main character was in charge of propoganda and he tried to make Jewish charicatures so offensively over the top that people would realize how dumb an idea antisemitism was... but the public ate it up verbatim. He's still upset Alan Ginsberg never returned his phone calls. Sad to see a jilted lover hold a grudge for so long.
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Cheekio posted:From what I hear of Savage, I'm not convinced he's not just an expert troll. Savage doesn't believe a word he says, dude is just cashing in on people's stupidity. Most of the big names in punditry are doing the same, probably almost all of them. I'd say O'Reilly is for real and the Fox morning crew is dumb enough that it's kinda irrelevant. Maybe Levin as well, he's enough of a man-child. edit Also, the President just had a press conference. Predictable response, as expected.  He's also linking to this, in hopes of bringing back that line about Jeeps being built in China. (for Chinese customers, but that isn't mentioned) http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130114/AUTO04/301140373/Chrysler-build-Jeeps-China?odyssey=tab Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Jan 14, 2013 |
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323689604578220132665726040.html#project%3DWEALTH0105%26articleTabs%3Dinteractive An infographic helpfully explaining the tax changes to the "average" American. All these examples have investment income equal to or greater than what I gross in a year.
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Sir Tonk posted:Savage doesn't believe a word he says, dude is just cashing in on people's stupidity. Most of the big names in punditry are doing the same, probably almost all of them. I'd say O'Reilly is for real and the Fox morning crew is dumb enough that it's kinda irrelevant. Maybe Levin as well, he's enough of a man-child. I'm fairly sure Bill is an act as well. All the stuff that leaks about him seems to prove he knows it's all bullshit, and when he decides to he can show genuine moments of real intelligence and a solid grasp of the issues. John Stewart has even pointed out that Bill knows it's all crap.
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Jan 15, 2013 01:38
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Pretty certain that Hannity is, in good part, a 'true believer' even if he doesn't believe 100% of the poo poo he spews.
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ThirdPartyView posted:Pretty certain that Hannity is, in good part, a 'true believer' even if he doesn't believe 100% of the poo poo he spews. Have to agree here. Hannity takes people disagreeing with him personally, and he's just too smug for it to be an act. People like Coulter I can buy it being an act - but Hannity's reactions are just too visceral, or he is simply a monumental method actor.
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Unzip and Attack posted:Have to agree here. Hannity takes people disagreeing with him personally, and he's just too smug for it to be an act. People like Coulter I can buy it being an act - but Hannity's reactions are just too visceral, or he is simply a monumental method actor. I refuse to believe that Sean Hannity is the second coming of Andy Kaufman.
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ThirdPartyView posted:Pretty certain that Hannity is, in good part, a 'true believer' even if he doesn't believe 100% of the poo poo he spews. Hannity and that fat dude named Neil they use as an economics expert are my two big 'these guys must be totally serious', also Levin from the radio pool.
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Hannity believes his poo poo but not to the degree he spews it. I've listened to conservative radio since high school (so like... 2002? god, ten years of my life listening to this poo poo) and Beck and Hannity were both way, way more toned down until the king of money mountain became whoever said the most batshit stuff. Everybody is trying to impersonate Limbaugh these days, who was the original king of the shills. I'd believe that Limbaugh has been doing it so long that he's become so far lodged up his own rear end that even he believes everything he says is true, but it totally started as an act. Also Mark Levin and Neal Boortz totally believe their poo poo wholesale. I'd say Laura Ingraham does too (and she somehow manages to be more smug than Hannity I have no idea how). And there have been a couple of no-name guys that have appeared on my local talk radio stations in the last couple of months that seem genuine. And O'Reilly has said enough reasonable things that I'm pretty sure he is trolling to some extent. I don't think he believes any of his religious bullshit.
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saltylopez posted:http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323689604578220132665726040.html#project%3DWEALTH0105%26articleTabs%3Dinteractive That picture makes my blood loving boil, especially how they paint the single parent and kids to just look dejected that their taxes are going up and god they just might not be able to afford prviate school AND two european vacations next year. My mother would have loved to make 260,000 while raising two boys by herself. gently caress the wall street journal.
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Branis posted:That picture makes my blood loving boil, especially how they paint the single parent and kids to just look dejected that their taxes are going up and god they just might not be able to afford prviate school AND two european vacations next year. My mother would have loved to make 260,000 while raising two boys by herself. gently caress the wall street journal. At least we got this out of it: 
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Branis posted:That picture makes my blood loving boil, especially how they paint the single parent and kids to just look dejected that their taxes are going up and god they just might not be able to afford prviate school AND two european vacations next year. My mother would have loved to make 260,000 while raising two boys by herself. gently caress the wall street journal. Also the blacks don't pay tax.
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Branis posted:That picture makes my blood loving boil, especially how they paint the single parent and kids to just look dejected that their taxes are going up and god they just might not be able to afford prviate school AND two european vacations next year. My mother would have loved to make 260,000 while raising two boys by herself. gently caress the wall street journal. Seriously you'd think they would have been smart enough to put the incomes those people make in little footers with asterisks next to the pictures so that it wasn't immediately obvious how ludicrously entitled the wealthy people in this country are and how absolutely removed from the situation that the majority of people live in. People making over half a loving million dollars per family looking like they are going to starve over a 3% tax increase is the epitome of ridiculousness. That's not even going to cut into their European vacation budget; if their accountant didn't tell them they probably wouldn't even notice. The "struggling single mother" trying to survive is also pretty outrageous. Try being a single mother who teachers autistic children raising a kid like my neighbor growing up or my co-worker that adopted a child. Both of them would love to make half what the info-graphic woman earns. What really makes my blood boil is hearing people that should be outraged defending this sort of tripe because "we shouldn't be jealous or punish their success."
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My parents, both on the edge of retirement and as far advanced in their careers as a biochemist and a engineer working on telecommunications designs, maker a combined income of 160,000$ Canadian (which means more now than it used to, admittedly). And we've always considered ourselves pretty drat privileged as a family. Who is this hypothetical single person with 230,000$ in yearly income. And loving 180,000$ in retirement? Who the gently caress makes that? Jesus. Also, what's a Henry Offense? Also, in the comments, fun with percentages: quote:Does the thought of paying 13%, 48% and/or 59% higher tax rates in 2013 versus 2012 make you sick to your stomach? You had better start planning now or get a sickness bag because those higher rates apply in 2013. Furthermore, some of the higher rates are cumulative at higher income levels. I do realize what he actually means by 39.6% being 13% higher than 35%, but that's seriously a loving disingenuous way to use math to get people angry. Political Whores fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Jan 15, 2013 |
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Cordyceps Headache posted:Also, what's a Henry Offense? HENRY - A buzzword coined in a 2003 Fortune Magazine article to refer to a segment of families earning between $250,000 and $500,000, but not having much left after taxes, schooling, housing and family costs - not to mention saving for an affluent retirement. The original article in which the "high earners, not rich yet (HENRYs)" term appeared discussed the alternative minimum tax (AMT) and how hard it hits this group of people.
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Install Gentoo posted:HENRY - More often than not it's used as a kind of insult by people with large amounts of generational wealth, along the lines of 'new money'.
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Good Citizen posted:More often than not it's used as a kind of insult by people with large amounts of generational wealth, along the lines of 'new money'. Right, it's a term that was invented to make you sympathize with those poor oppressed folks who only make $250,000 a year but immediately became a way to insult them because really now.
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Boy, those sure are some WSJ readers in those examples. edit ThirdPartyView posted:Pretty certain that Hannity is, in good part, a 'true believer' even if he doesn't believe 100% of the poo poo he spews. The only reason I think Hannity is an act is from a guy I know from the radio show after mine. He said he's hung out with him and that he's got gay friends and all that. He hasn't seen him in like five years, so maybe we went off the deep end. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jan 15, 2013 |
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Sir Tonk posted:Also, the President just had a press conference. Predictable response, as expected. Yes for the umpteen bajllionth time, you sure got him on using a teleprompter for its intended purpose that literally every other politician uses it for, but you somehow magically only noticed the black guy using it.
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Dudes! posted:Also the blacks don't pay tax. They make the least too. That infographic makes me feel really poor.
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Spacedad posted:Yes for the umpteen bajllionth time, you sure got him on using a teleprompter for its intended purpose that literally every other politician uses it for, but you somehow magically only noticed the black guy using it. I heard that Barrack Hussein Obama drinks water, breathes air, and eats hamburgers. Can you believe this fuckin' guy?
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eggsovereasy posted:They make the least too. That infographic makes me feel really poor. Seriously, where and how the gently caress do I go to make 230,000 as a single person?
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Phone posted:I heard that Barrack Hussein Obama drinks water, breathes air, and eats hamburgers. Can you believe this fuckin' guy? Barack HitlerBama also farts. Only communists 'redistribute the methane.'
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Phone posted:I heard that Barrack Hussein Obama drinks water, breathes air, and eats hamburgers. Can you believe this fuckin' guy? I'm impressed by the first one since I thought lizard people didn't like water.
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Phone posted:I heard that Barrack Hussein Obama drinks water, breathes air, and eats hamburgers. Can you believe this fuckin' guy? Wait wait.. I like hamburgers? I like .. air. and liquids.. Could he be a.... hooman? The whiteness, the nothingness... Kind of a stretch for a mighty boosh clip but, you know what, all this politics is really depressing. I had more but it dealt with a poorly thought out idea about farmers who still want to make a living and people who still want to eat, but most farmland is corporate owned, so that kind of failure seems to be serious.
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