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Brother Jonathan posted:
Somehow... it was the crew's fault - Improper train handling.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:Somehow... it was the crew's fault - Improper train handling. Rules violated: 6.21: Precautions Against Unusual Conditions Protect trains and engines against any known condition that may interfere with their safety. When conditions restrict visibility, regulate speed to ensure that crew members can observe and comply with signal indications. In unusually heavy rain, storm, or high water, trains and engines must approach bridges, culverts, and other potentially hazardous points prepared to stop. If they cannot proceed safely, they must stop until it is safe to resume movement. 6.21.3: Stop Within Range of Vision When a train is instructed by the Train Dispatcher in the words, "BETWEEN (location) AND (location) BE GOVERNED BY RULE 6.21.3", within specified limits, train must proceed at a speed which will permit stopping short of slide, rock, washout or debris on track. 1.1.1: Maintaining a Safe Course In case of doubt or uncertainty, take the safe course. 1.9: Railroad Company Employees must behave in such a way that the railroad will not be criticized for their actions. so fired http://www.up.com/cs/groups/public/documents/up_pdf_nativedocs/pdf_fiber_standards_manual.pdf look at page 4, section 3, paragraph 3.1.2 is a company motto "ALL ACCIDENTS ARE PREVENTABLE!!!" B4Ctom1 fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Dec 23, 2012 |
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Dec 23, 2012 10:29
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Sounds about right. I will throw a 6.27 in there, most because its a 4-C. But now we have that conductor certification, so that is a 4-D right?
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Dec 23, 2012 19:32
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Heard a pretty good one from a friend the other day: As a new hire working with another new guy and an old head, they were doing their regular switching at a local factory. Traditionally, they shut down for lunch, go inside, and eat lunch up in the break room with the factory workers. This time, it was peak season and the factory had hired a bunch of temp workers who were also on lunch break. After they sit down the whistle sounds and everyone else punches the clock and heads back to work. About 10 minutes later the shop foreman comes walking in and sees them sitting in there and starts yelling "What are you drat temps doing up here?! Get the hell back to work or you're all fired!" Without missing a beat, old head stands up, grabs his lunch box, and storms out the door yelling, "WELL gently caress YOU THEN, I QUIT!". Foreman goes running after him yelling "Wait! Come back! I need to know who you are so I can take you off the roster!" New guys were just left sitting in the break room staring at each other trying to figure out what just happened.
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Dec 24, 2012 03:29
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InterceptorV8 posted:http://youtu.be/6xSzU0oM4mM 1) Ongar station is the zero point for the Underground (i.e. all distances are measured from there), and 2) It had the least used station on the entire network. Blake Hall was built a mile from the village of Bobbingworth (not a made-up name, I swear) as a condition to get the land-owner's permission to build the line and ended up with six passengers a day using it. So, around the same time as Aldwych was shut, LU decided that the whole branch line up there past Epping was, in fact, a colossal waste of time and a loss-maker so they closed it. It's now a preservation line, and they had their first steam service run on it earlier this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svkpfT4xZ24
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Jan 1, 2013 16:31
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Video detailing what happens when prolonged, high-speed wheelslip occurs on a steam locomotive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E54HUQYeFNg&feature=share
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Jan 3, 2013 02:55
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^^^ "The engine driver tried to wind the valve gear back towards center, but the reverse wheel spun violently back to full forward gear and broke both his arms." The new issue of Trains has a look at the 2012 InnoTrans trade show in Berlin, and it includes a train design that is so clever that I am surprised that no one thought of it before.  The Robel Mobile Maintenance System 69.70 is a three-unit train for working on the tracks. The first unit is a heated, covered work area, and you can see guests of InnoTrans walking through it in this video. The second unit, also shown in the video, is a storage area for rails, ties, and other equipment, with a five-ton overhead crane going between it and the work area. The third unit has the driver's cab, lockers, toilets, and a kitchen. Here is the marketing video from the manufacturer. They were first made for Austrian railroads, I'm guessing because of the severe conditions on remote stretches of rail, and Amtrak has already ordered one. Brother Jonathan fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Jan 3, 2013 |
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Jan 3, 2013 03:37
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Itzena posted:Hey, I remember that one closing! It was a one-stop branch line run with a very limited service and I don't think I ever saw anyone actually use it. Speaking of now-closed peak time only Tube lines from back when I was a student: The Central line used to run this odd little mostly rural branch line from Epping to Ongar, way out in Essex They're likely closing Watford Met in a couple of years which is both logical and a shame, the station house is lovely and it's one of the nicer, leafy parts of the Met. A pipe dream revolves around having the money to buy the station house once it's decommissioned but it's a larger terminus station on a plot of very expensive suburban land; the value would either be astronomical beyond belief, or most likely they'll just knock it down.
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Jan 3, 2013 11:02
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Brother Jonathan posted:They were first made for Austrian railroads, I'm guessing because of the severe conditions on remote stretches of rail Austrian: http://bahnbilder.warumdenn.net/3155.htm Swiss: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40826712@N00/6818341504/
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Jan 3, 2013 13:35
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I was going to say, good luck talking the dispatcher into letting you take that work train out on the main to weld some joints or replace some rail. It's hard enough getting time to put a boom truck on the track, and you can always set those on and off at a convenient crossing. A covered work area would be nice for dropping thermite welds but overkill for anything else... didn't you know it's always 75 and sunny between the rails? I can see it being put to good use on high-speed passenger rail though, usually trains can pass through a work area with men & equipment at no more than 25mph.
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Jan 3, 2013 17:15
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Here is a picture of an abandoned logging railroad in Taipingshan National Forest, Taiwan:
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Jan 6, 2013 21:17
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bytebark posted:Video detailing what happens when prolonged, high-speed wheelslip occurs on a steam locomotive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E54HUQYeFNg&feature=share
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Jan 6, 2013 22:49
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Log082 posted:Give me a few hours, I'll have some pictures of my Christmas trains set up. We used to run a cleaning car from Roco on my father's old layout. It was far from an ideal solution. The biggest problems we had with the thing were that it loved to derail on account of being too light, it wouldn't clean the middle rail on Marklin tracks (the one which carries the AC phase), and even after weighing it down with lead it still couldn't be pushed because it'd derail so easily. Not only did we have to add quite a bit of weight to it to stop it from derailing at every point it came across, but we also fitted it with a brush to remove the dust left by the cleaning/scouring. While it may not seem like much, that dust is killer on H0 scale locomotives. So in my opinion cleaning cars work decently well, provided you run a DC layout, there aren't too many points (especially curved points and double compound points), and the track is not so badly oxidised that your heaviest locomotive can't drive normally any more. If you can reach the bits of track that need cleaning, just clean it by hand, it'll save you a lot of frustration with a cleaning car.
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Jan 7, 2013 07:40
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The derailing might have to do with running DC wheels on AC track. The flanges are a bit different. Often you'll be okay particularly with shorter cars and simpler points but sometimes you'll get derailments.
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Jan 7, 2013 10:44
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We had one of these, but in a different colour. I can't find an exact image of the model from 20 years ago. It's just a regular box car, about 2/3rd the length of a D-class passenger car. The thing was just picky about points, it may very well have been the wheels. 12 year old me simply blamed the thing for being a Roco car, because Roco and Trixie cars were a lot lighter than the Marklin and Fleischmann cars we had and in my experience the lighter cars derailed much more easily.
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Jan 7, 2013 18:59
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The obvious solution is to run more trains  Seriously though, I always used a combination of the track cleaning eraser and a track-cleaning caboose from Life-Like (I think) to clean my HO scale layout when I was a kid.
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Jan 8, 2013 00:47
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I'm just going to leave this here: http://kingstonsub.com/index.html 
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Jan 8, 2013 01:25
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Boomer The Cannon posted:I'm just going to leave this here: A 1:1 scale model train? At least he admits that it is crazy: "My name is Jason Shron, and I am a train-obsessed nutcase." He even seems to be promoting the fact that it is completely mad. From the opening of the video: "Here's my Doctor Who toys, and that's my full-sized VIA train."
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Jan 8, 2013 01:55
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To be fair, he is the creator/owner of Rapido Trains (http://www.rapidotrains.com/), who make some of the most detailed HO scale model railroad equipment around. He's doing 6 productions runs of a HO-scale version of "The Canadian" (http://www.rapidotrains.com/canadiancp1.html) at 1500 dollars each, and they've all sold out.  That being said, if I remember correctly the model train company came about after he decided he wanted to do this. Boomer The Cannon fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jan 8, 2013 |
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Jan 8, 2013 02:23
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That's only slightly pricey for a limited run high detail complete passenger train in plastic. You should see what you'd pay for something like that in brass. Model railroading is not a cheap hobby. Check out some overland or sunset models sometime if you want to see expensive.
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Jan 8, 2013 04:03
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:That's only slightly pricey for a limited run high detail complete passenger train in plastic. You should see what you'd pay for something like that in brass. Model railroading is not a cheap hobby. Check out some overland or sunset models sometime if you want to see expensive. I've bought and driven cars for less than they are selling the loving engines for. Jesus.
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Jan 9, 2013 06:45
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Somehow there have been not one, but two posts in the meme thread that are not only amusing but concern trains. I know, I'm as confused as you are. Linking them because I'm pretty sure posting memes outside the meme ghetto is verboten. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3518044&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=97#post411347243 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3518044&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=97#post411349716
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Jan 10, 2013 05:01
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Here in Austria our Trains are very musical  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdaqeTgpTSs Here a more elaborate variant as the engine control tries to prevent slippage and adjusts the motors automatically: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRf30pVGMp4 And yes that they play a musical scale is deliberate. Engineers thought if they can't avoid the humming of the power converters they can at least tune them to sound nicer. genuinebald fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jan 11, 2013 |
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Jan 11, 2013 18:29
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genuinebald posted:Here in Austria our Trains are very musical This is the coolest goddamn thing I've seen in a long time. I want to buy that engineer a beer.
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Jan 11, 2013 21:01
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genuinebald posted:Here in Austria our Trains are very musical
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Jan 11, 2013 21:04
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Got an interview coming up for an Operations Supervisor with CSX at an Ohio terminal and one with NS for Management Trainee-Transportation. Pretty loving excited about it except for the whole 'eating poo poo from upper management and labor while working the worst shifts in bumfuck egypt, USA for 3-5 years' part of it. How bad of a job is dispatching? Judging by the starting pay it sucks pretty bad/is hard but who knows. vains fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jan 12, 2013 |
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Jan 11, 2013 22:07
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genuinebald posted:Here in Austria our Trains are very musical That is equal parts really cool and really weird.
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Jan 12, 2013 00:55
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Veins McGee posted:How of a job is dispatching? Judging by the starting pay it sucks pretty bad/is hard but who knows. All I know is that the dispatchers at work really appreciate it when they go to take their smoke break.
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Jan 12, 2013 03:45
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genuinebald posted:Here in Austria our Trains are very musical This is really loving cool. I guess sometimes teutonic engineers are ok. Sometimes.
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Jan 12, 2013 03:51
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A photographer has merged old and new photographs of rail lines and train stations: (click for big) Original article: Ghost trains: Spooky pictures show how long-lost locos would look if they were still running along their old routes today.
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Jan 12, 2013 11:08
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Veins McGee posted:Got an interview coming up for an Operations Supervisor with CSX at an Ohio terminal and one with NS for Management Trainee-Transportation. Pretty loving excited about it except for the whole 'eating poo poo from upper management and labor while working the worst shifts in bumfuck egypt, USA for 3-5 years' part of it. I think our dispatchers mostly play grab rear end, smoke, and be sarcastic. Actually their job is pretty loving miserable. Think air traffic controller, but your pretty much micro managed by the corridor manager (mid level managers on the UP, I am sure they have names else where). Plus you have to get the hot shot trains to certain points, but there is a track inspector in the way. Now there is a train in emergency in the middle of a interlocking plant and you need to get this hot shot that is already 12 hours behind moving. And the track inspector took 1 of the 2 main lines out of service. Yep, stress ville hell.
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Jan 12, 2013 17:34
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Terrible Robot posted:This is really loving cool. I guess sometimes teutonic engineers are ok. When I was a kid, we used to drive up from Vermont to Montreal, and the main thing I remember was the sound of the metro trains accelerating out of the station and their distinct 3-note stepped acceleration. Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJlW0tpSY4s&t=47s
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Jan 12, 2013 19:13
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I had forgotten that Montreal used rubber-tire trains. What is the reasoning behind that, I wonder? Cheaper?
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Jan 12, 2013 19:37
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:I had forgotten that Montreal used rubber-tire trains. What is the reasoning behind that, I wonder? Cheaper? According to Wikipedia
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Jan 12, 2013 20:11
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Boomer The Cannon posted:You're not the guy with the franken-GG1 sig on RYPN, are you? No ... but I do kinda know him.
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Jan 14, 2013 00:51
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The one "advantage" listed there which I disagree with is "smoother ride." I've ridden a few rubber-tired transit operations (mostly those running at airports) and they're never smooth. A few years ago I went to Disney World and made it a point to ride the Monorail (rubber tired on a concrete beam) so I could compare it to the CTA in Chicago. Without a doubt the CTA (operating on a 100+ year old elevated structure in some places) has the better ride.
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:I had forgotten that Montreal used rubber-tire trains. What is the reasoning behind that, I wonder? Cheaper? One reason I know of as a railroader is that when light rail runs on streets also occupied by automobiles. The problem is that the rails are embedded in in the street. Only a small portion of the rail is exposed in the street. During winter conditions automobiles pack the ice into the the small exposed gap that the wheel flange runs in. Light rail trains are just that, "light". The number of drive wheels they have, the weight on the drive wheels, the weight and gauge of the rail used, all light. Normally when a big hefty freight train/locomotive hits a small amount of ice at a crossing it crushes it. Here in Cheyenne Wyoming we have had so much cold weather, that the roads in some areas, have been pack iced for over a month. But when a light rail passenger car hits it for miles and miles, it can derail. Personally I have seen a 195 ton locomotive and a 143 ton freight car that when being delivered to a business (running car first) attempt to derail/partially derail at a crossing that saw heavy truck traffic. The only solution in that case was to bring the car back later after someone got out there with a torch to melt the ice a bit. A quick google search of "ice derails train" will net you a couple of these kinds of stories as well as a hundred thousand returns on a german ICE train that derailed.
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I have no idea why this is the first I have heard of transit trains using rubber tires. My mind is blown. bytebark posted:The one "advantage" listed there which I disagree with is "smoother ride." I've ridden a few rubber-tired transit operations (mostly those running at airports) and they're never smooth. A few years ago I went to Disney World and made it a point to ride the Monorail (rubber tired on a concrete beam) so I could compare it to the CTA in Chicago. Without a doubt the CTA (operating on a 100+ year old elevated structure in some places) has the better ride. The new blue line they put in is like butter on the way to Ohare, but some of the corners around the loop remind me of riding on old wooden roller coasters I wouldnt exactly call it smooth.
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I'm growing to like the new cars on the CTA.
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