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TheBlobThing posted:So I did a thing. Finished my first fire-team of Death Korps troopers. I'm still not completely sure about the colour scheme, even though this is what I have decided to do. What say ye goons? I'm really liking those light blue coats.
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New FAQs are up. That includes Dark Angels. Heldrake weapons are turrets, meaning they can blow up a transport then poo poo flames all over its contents from behind. Kelly's Noise Marine stupidity got fixed, they're much nicer now. Good fixes for Chaos. e: Eldar gets another kick to the balls. Mango Polo fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jan 16, 2013 |
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Q: If Old Zogwort rolls on the Weirdboy psychic power chart and gets a psychic power that is resolved as a Shooting attack (specifically Frazzle or Zzap) may he re-roll this power? If not then can he ignore the power for the purposes of expending Warp Charge points? (p61) A: No to both questions. Why would they address this but not address the fact that there are two power that Zogwort straight up can't use?
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CyberLord XP posted:Q: If Old Zogwort rolls on the Weirdboy psychic power chart and gets a Tyranids finally get a friend in their "what the gently caress do you mean I can't reroll?" psyker club.
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The DA one is hilarious. So many basic errors in the printed edition. This is pretty poo poo even by GW standards of proofing.
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Necron FAQ posted:Q: Can a Night Scythe carry a model that is unit type Infantry? (p51)  Why on earth would you need to clarify that? Edit: Oh, I see. Its special rules add that you can carry Jump Infantry and Jetbikes. Ward meant that as an addition to its normal abilities, but I'm sure some massive sperglords had a fit about it and forced GW to clarify that the earth is round. PierreTheMime fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Jan 16, 2013 |
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Jan 16, 2013 14:39
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Some of these questions were clearly asked by the people who were meant to proofread the books.
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Jan 16, 2013 14:41
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Mango Polo posted:Tyranids finally get a friend in their "what the gently caress do you mean I can't reroll?" psyker club. Why doesn't GW just give Broodlords/Zogwort BS 1? Problem solved GW, you can even have this one for free!
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Jan 16, 2013 14:41
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Wow, Heldrakes are insane now, and they were already pretty nuts.
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Farseers can't Psychic Power in Transports? Great.
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Jan 16, 2013 14:48
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Mango Polo posted:e: Eldar gets another kick to the balls. I love it. The only blue text in the whole update is there to kill one of their best remaining tricks. Dark Eldar don't seem to have lost much of value.
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Jan 16, 2013 14:50
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I really like that they realised they forgot an entire special character from the DA book.
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Jan 16, 2013 14:55
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Holy poo poo. Taking a Deathwing Command lets you change a terminator in a different unit to a champion!!!
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Jan 16, 2013 15:10
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:I really like that they realised they forgot an entire special character from the DA book. What does Litanies of the Dark Angels do?
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Jan 16, 2013 15:11
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Vindicare Assassins can now actually assassinate people? (I.E no look out sir) Outstanding!
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Welp, I'm glad they clarified that Abaddon can indeed join any kind of marked unit. Being one of the four people who ever loving use him, it's kind of nice to know.
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WAR FOOT posted:Farseers can't Psychic Power in Transports? Great. I've played this since 6th ed came out because from the rulebook it seemed pretty clear? You can still buff the embarked unit or the vehicle in question IIRC.
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Lungboy posted:Wow, Heldrakes are insane now, and they were already pretty nuts. So they're pretty much spewing fire out of their arses now. If I can't stay out of its weapon's line of sight, I guess this means the only way to be safe from a Heldrake is to destroy it? I'm going to need another Vendetta... 
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Jan 16, 2013 15:16
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:What does Litanies of the Dark Angels do? Seraphicus & any unit he joins re-roll failed To Hit and To Wound rolls of 1 against models from a CSM army. Shooting and CC. So yeah, he gives PE: CSM.
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Jan 16, 2013 15:23
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SRM posted:He'd be a kind of silly challenge machine though, wouldn't he? Against crap like Sargents and whatnot, sure. But WS4, I4, 3 attacks and no invul save isn't exactly a glowing recommendation against anyone who is actually worth while, despite having S5 T5 and a 2+.
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Sykic posted:So they're pretty much spewing fire out of their arses now. If I can't stay out of its weapon's line of sight, I guess this means the only way to be safe from a Heldrake is to destroy it? Not really, the standard model has a long, flexible neck so it's no real stretch to imagine it bending its head under the body to shoot what it just flew over. Anal flames do have a certain ring to them though.
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Lungboy posted:Not really, the standard model has a long, flexible neck so it's no real stretch to imagine it bending its head under the body to shoot what it just flew over. Anal flames do have a certain ring to them though. Since I shortened the neck on mine, I will have no choice but to carefully describe to my opponent how the rear-pipes of my Heldrake pucker, bloat and distend before unleashing a massive gout of nether-flames that chars his marines and leave them little more than little dark piles on the ground.
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Mango Polo posted:Since I shortened the neck on mine, I will have no choice but to carefully describe to my opponent how the rear-pipes of my Heldrake pucker, bloat and distend before unleashing a massive gout of nether-flames that chars his marines and leave them little more than little dark piles on the ground. And on that day, you will be my hero.
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Make some little Goatse claws to put on it too.
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BRB FAQ posted:Q: If an attack with the Rending special rule rolls a 6 for their Armour Penetration roll against a vehicle and subsequently scores a Penetrating Hit, does that hit count as being AP2 as it would if the attack rolled a 6 To Wound? (p41) Well that sucks for all these Deathwing assault cannons I have rolling around here. Baruch Obamawitz posted:What does Litanies of the Dark Angels do? I believe it has the exact same wording as Preferred Enemy: CSM, just written out as a new rule.
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quote:Q: When making a Shooting attack against a unit, can Wounds !!!
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jammu posted:Vindicare Assassins can now actually assassinate people? (I.E no look out sir) Yeah, I was hoping that they would FAQ them and I'm very happy with this. You can snipe out Azrael from an IG blob, for example. Vindicares own now. quote:Q: When making a Shooting attack against a unit, can Wounds from the Wound Pool be allocated to models that were not within range any of the shooting models when To Hit rolls were made (i.e. half the targeted model are in the shooting models’ range, and half are not)? (p15) Something every player needs to keep in mind. This can be either advantageous or problematic, depending on the situation. Nevertheless, don't forget about this ruling. quote:Q: If a model has a special rule or ability that allows it to re-roll one or more of its dice when determining charge distance (for example Fleet), and that model charges through difficult terrain, does it roll three dice, re-roll any desired, then remove the highest roll? (p22) That's pretty cool. I didn't think it worked that way. I mean, Fleet, sure, but this seems to affect CSM units with an Icon of Wrath. quote:Q: If a model with Defensive Grenades is part of or joins a unit who do not have Defensive Grenades, for example a Grey Knight Grand Master with blind grenades, does the unit they join benefit from the effects of their Defensive Grenades? (p62) Duh? That's what the entry for Defensive Grenades says. Why do they keep answering lovely obvious FAQs that are spelled out clearly in the books? The majority of people who play this game must be dumb as rocks, it's the only explanation. quote:Q: Do models in a multiple Toughness value unit who are involved in a Challenge still use the majority Toughness of their unit? (p64) This actually used to come up fairly often because RAW, they still used majority Toughness. I'm glad they fixed it. quote:Q: Can a model with the ability to repair Hull Points or Immobilised/Weapon Destroyed results from the Vehicle Damage Table use this ability on Zooming Flyers? (p80) Dang, Big Meks can't throw their wrenches at Dakkajets that are zooming by in order to fix them  quote:Q: Can the rider of a Chariot that is also a Skimmer make Sweep Attacks against Zooming Flyers or Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures? (p82). I can't remember if these are old questions, they seem familiar but they are magenta. Anyway, Catacomb Command Barges just don't seem very good in 6th ed. quote:Q: Can a Wolf Guard Pack Leader or Independent Character join a squad of Wolf Scouts and benefit from the Outflank special rule because at least one model has the ability? (p27) Just keep nerfing Space Wolves, guys.
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Lungboy posted:Anal flames do have a certain ring to them though. I haven't read through much of the DA codex yet, but a lot of that FAQ stuff seems like really basic options that should already be in the codex.
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Phyresis posted:Yeah, I was hoping that they would FAQ them and I'm very happy with this. You can snipe out Azrael from an IG blob, for example. Vindicares own now. Well, you'd put one wound on Azrael and prevent him from using his own 4++, but the blob would still get the 4++.
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Groetgaffel posted:These guys look fantastic! As does their bases. Tanks a lot. I'm looking forward to seeing your version too.
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:Well, you'd put one wound on Azrael and prevent him from using his own 4++, but the blob would still get the 4++. Yeah, it should destroy the helm imo but the Matward didn't future-proof the ability correctly I guess. It'd take a few turns but you could shoot him with a Turbo-Penetrator the next turn and then finish him off the turn after that with a Hellfire round.
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Phyresis posted:Yeah, it should destroy the helm imo but the Matward didn't future-proof the ability correctly I guess. It'd take a few turns but you could shoot him with a Turbo-Penetrator the next turn and then finish him off the turn after that with a Hellfire round. Just park a darkshroud next to him in bolstered ruins. Insta 2+.
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quote:Q: Can a Flyer or Flying Monstrous Creature Leave Combat I used to like doing exactly this with my void raven after it dropped it's bomb
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SRM posted:Ugh. I just found out, two days after I ordered it, that the codex was out of stock at triplehelix so I still don't have it. But yeah, that errata really makes me wonder what state the book is in. How do they gently caress up the basic options?
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Oh yeah, I almost forgot about the most important change: Noise Marine units can take blastmasters in minimum-sized squads. CSM are gonna crush Ravenwing armies.
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Thank god they finally FAQed Mycetic spores so you get a 6" disembark like on every other thing you disembark from. quote:Q: When making a Shooting attack against a unit, can Wounds from the Wound Pool be allocated to models that were not within range any of the shooting models when To Hit rolls were made (i.e. half the targeted model are in the shooting models’ range, and half are not)? (p15) So, now that you can only kill models that are in range to be shot, how will that affect flamer squads? Lets say you have a squad of burna boyz. They attack a squad of 20 guardsmen. 8 of the burna boyz can hit guardsmen with their flame templates, but due to the placement of the two squads, only 6 of the guardsmen are in range of the flamers. Lets say that with these 8 flame templates, a total of 40 hits are possible. Lets say then that 30 of the hits wound. Before, the entire guard squad would be wiped out cleanly. With the new FAQ rule, does that mean only 6 of the guardsmen would die, since the other 14 are out of range? That seems like a massive nerf to flame weapons for units that have multiple flamers. But here's another question. Say I have a platoon command squad with 3 flamers and one lasgun. Could then the wounds from the flamers be allocated out to 24" due to that being the range of the lasgun, since they're part of the same wound pool?
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Phyresis posted:Oh yeah, I almost forgot about the most important change: Noise Marine units can take blastmasters in minimum-sized squads. CSM are gonna crush Ravenwing armies. That and the Heldrake FAQ's are something I don't think any CSM player asked for, but glad to get. The Heldrake thing is especially weird since it used to make you have to plan your vector of attack since it can be difficult to vector strike and flame appropriate targets in the same turn. Now, you basically can zoom over something and and be just within 12" of a unit to flame it, which seems excessive. The Noise Marine thing is an interesting upgrade since you can now take a IC in the rhino and still have a Blastmaster, or just take two Blastmasters in a Rhino. Good times! Also, I am almost certain the change to Flyers to not being able to zoom in and out of play is certainly due to Necron NightScythe nonsense, where you can keep the Scythe and the Necrons it holds completely safe until the last turn if you want.
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Hmmm, does this work for templates? So now you can't hit three guys with a template from a Trukk full of burnas and proceed to wipe out the entire squad? I mean it makes sense but darn.
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CyberLord XP posted:Hmmm, does this work for templates? So now you can't hit three guys with a template from a Trukk full of burnas and proceed to wipe out the entire squad? I mean, realistically I always found that goofy. Like the image of a bunch of soldiers outside the range of a flamer, running into the path of a flamer and dying. It makes sense logically if you think about it.
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Thundercracker posted:just take two Blastmasters in a Rhino. Good times! Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.
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