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I feel compelled to tell you, Pander, that the last time I can remember a trade going down for someone like Mantle, the price (for DiMaggio) was Curt Schilling, Ernie Lombardi, Chet Lemon, Jimmy Rollins, all in their primes, AND a first-round draft pick. You are getting lowballed quite a bit. While we mourn the loss of the Larkin-Downing award, that was a hell of a game. And the Heavyweight Championship is a fine consolation. Send down Hank Thompson, call up Schmidt, and play him at third for the week to rest Grich. Also, I hate to do it, but send down Nolan to work on his control a bit, and bring up Reuschel. Also, while we are tempted by Oscar Gamble's hair, and the chance to have a young partner for Det. Don Slaught, we'll draft Ken Griffey Sr./. South Bolton's on the clock.
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Archie Goodwin posted:I feel compelled to tell you, Pander, that the last time I can remember a trade going down for someone like Mantle, the price (for DiMaggio) was Curt Schilling, Ernie Lombardi, Chet Lemon, Jimmy Rollins, all in their primes, AND a first-round draft pick. You are getting lowballed quite a bit. Maybe I'm either misinterpreting the ratings Mogul uses, or over-emphasizing them (94/97 mantle vs 94 Beltran seems like Not a Big Difference to me). I guess I'll keep shopping, I have time since it's just the Exp Cup.
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Draft Spreadsheet for the new page again. To the owner of South Bolton, what sort of piece are you looking for for your pick? Perhaps 2005 Craig Biggio or 2011 Adrian Gonzalez? mentholmoose fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jan 16, 2013 |
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Pander posted:
Deal You can have the Korean dude E: Beltran is 09
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Cthulhu Dreams posted:Deal I'll think on it. Need more education on NUMBERZ before I toss away a potential golden god who might've had a low potential roll this go-around.
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Pander posted:I guess I don't have a feel for it. Is a 2011 Beltran that far a dropoff in production from a 1954 Mantle? Especially compared to the upgrade I'd be getting by inserting 2004 Pedro for 2004 Livan Hernandez? You are over-emphasizing them by a fair amount. Younger, better Beltran is hitting at a .266/.333/9HR clip for me, which is not bad by any means, but it's nothing at all like what young Mantle can do, and has done. The ratings don't tell the whole story by any means, though there are circumstances when they are useful (tell you a guy is just too young to be useful on this roll, like my Dick Allen). As for your pitching, there'll be an amazing pool of pitchers in the dispersal draft. Get one there, or make a deal for someone who isn't an inner circle Hall guy.
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The Merry Marauder posted:You are over-emphasizing them by a fair amount. Younger, better Beltran is hitting at a .266/.333/9HR clip for me, which is not bad by any means, but it's nothing at all like what young Mantle can do, and has done. The ratings don't tell the whole story by any means, though there are circumstances when they are useful (tell you a guy is just too young to be useful on this roll, like my Dick Allen).
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Pander posted:I'll trust my gut and BBRef more than the ratings I guess. I just hate seeing sub-80s ratings for half my pitchers. It's my inner stats geek screaming in rage. I'm not gonna lie to you, your bullpen is in deep poo poo. Problem is, it's a massive inefficiency to use a dispersal pick on a reliever when there's still elite guys in the pool. You have a couple options - I haven't looked into your feeders, but chances are good you have some pieces other expansion teams might want - find one with an excess of relievers and get some modern arms. Alternately, trade me (or BWFC or IceMole) some spare parts for our remaining super-draft pick (only we three have one left), where you could get a modern reliever like Ryan Madson or Matt Mantei.
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A combination of bad luck and a bad cold streak during June/July. I assure you, the man can mash. Just look at his Career numbers. Pander posted:Maybe I'm either misinterpreting the ratings Mogul uses, or over-emphasizing them (94/97 mantle vs 94 Beltran seems like Not a Big Difference to me). Ratings, for the most part, mean absolutely squat in the SuperLeague, Look at Mornacales Cheif Bender. He is rated at an 82, but is currently pitching like crazy, has a 2.77 ERA and 6 K/9. You can pretty safely ignore ratings, as they are pretty random.
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The Merry Marauder posted:I'm not gonna lie to you, your bullpen is in deep poo poo. Problem is, it's a massive inefficiency to use a dispersal pick on a reliever when there's still elite guys in the pool. You have a couple options - I haven't looked into your feeders, but chances are good you have some pieces other expansion teams might want - find one with an excess of relievers and get some modern arms. Alternately, trade me (or BWFC or IceMole) some spare parts for our remaining super-draft pick (only we three have one left), where you could get a modern reliever like Ryan Madson or Matt Mantei. I've got quite a few half-decent relievers on my feeder teams and in my current bullpen that I can probably trade off if he needs spare arms. I'd be looking for some better starting pitching or another good bat to round out my lineup, though. VVVV Let me know when EC May update rolls out if you still need some decent arms, I'll see if I can't find some good relievers. Monathin fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Jan 16, 2013 |
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mks5000 posted:A combination of bad luck and a bad cold streak during June/July. I assure you, the man can mash. Just look at his Career numbers. The Merry Marauder posted:I'm not gonna lie to you, your bullpen is in deep poo poo. Problem is, it's a massive inefficiency to use a dispersal pick on a reliever when there's still elite guys in the pool. You have a couple options - I haven't looked into your feeders, but chances are good you have some pieces other expansion teams might want - find one with an excess of relievers and get some modern arms. Alternately, trade me (or BWFC or IceMole) some spare parts for our remaining super-draft pick (only we three have one left), where you could get a modern reliever like Ryan Madson or Matt Mantei. I'll take my lumps another month or two and see how things go.
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In a month's time i'll likely still be up for either of those two deals, Pander (bear in mind that, in reference to those ratings being weird, this is actually the first season that Bumgarner hasn't been good for me despite his lower rating).
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Okay, the judges for Bruzer will be: 1. Monathin 2. Senerio 3. mks5000 4. Viscount Slim 5. ForeverBWFC 6. UZWorm 7. CVE Smasher League Injury Report Week 16 Luna Landers Greg Maddux (SP) (No Super-Auction!) - 17 days New Orleans Mashers Bernie Williams (CF) (Broken E String) - 32 days Saturn Biosparks Early Wynn (SP) (Attacked by Jemm, Son of Saturn!) - 32 days South Bolton Eazy W's Ed Delahanty (IF) (Needed time off to celebrate religious holiday of Bourbonia) - 7 days
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Only fitting that three members of the St. Paul Bearers Executive Committee should sit in judgement on a fourth. If only the lovely kw0134 were available.
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mentholmoose posted:Draft Spreadsheet for the new page again. It's ok, I think I know what must be done... When selecting a player, there are many criteria I look at. Pee Wee Reece and Jim Sundberg were certainly frontrunners for their Gold Glove winning defence. Oscar Gamble was a shoe-in for a while because God knows how I like left-handed sluggers. Then, whilst deliberating, I considered something. In all my career here in the Super-League, I have never displayed the most tactical acumen, conducted the shrewdest trades, or commanded respect as an élite team. Instead, my philosophy has been to select those players to whom has been attached a significance, a higher purpose, a personality. With this in mind, and some Scotch in belly, the W's select... '07 Adam "The Chosen One" Dunn! Feel free to belittle and berate this choice at your own convenience...
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Viscount Slim posted:Only fitting that three members of the St. Paul Bearers Executive Committee should sit in judgement on a fourth. If only the lovely kw0134 were available.
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Pander While I did get your roster moves in, any potential trade you have made will have to wait until the next month as it seems to me like you're still discussing it. Injury report coming soon.
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ForeverBWFC posted:Feel free to belittle and berate this choice at your own convenience... I will choose to berate it. To the owners of the Phoenixes and Unicorns, I extend the same offer. 2005 Craig Biggio or 2011 Adrian Gonzalez for the pick.
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Grinnblade posted:Pander That's good. I think I was too panicky about my lovely, lovely pitching. I'll let the dumpster fire burn a while.
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Pander posted:That's good. I think I was too panicky about my lovely, lovely pitching. I'll let the dumpster fire burn a while. In addition, Whitey K. was your starting 3B vs LHP w/ DH. What do you want to do about that roster-wise?
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New Orleans Mashers Gahh. Biggio up, Davis in Williams' spot. And can I get some feedback on whether I can trade with the Landers?
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CraigK posted:And can I get some feedback on whether I can trade with the Landers? Best case scenario (for us fellow owners) is that Smasher holds a Super-Auction for all the players on his team.
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Smasher Dynamo posted:Okay, the judges for Bruzer will be: Well, this'll be interesting. I'll get something written soon.
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ToiletofSadness posted:If mrnoun has truly abandoned his team, I wouldn't hold my breath. Smasher Dynamo posted:Luna Landers Also that's too much work anyway during the combined SL/EC season.
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Monathin posted:Also that's too much work anyway during the combined SL/EC season. Yes, it is. I would also like to hear whether mrnoun is officially renouncing his team before I do anything.
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Expansion Cup VIII Injury Report - May Atlantis Aquamen SP Fergie Jenkins (Pulled hamstring imitating another Jenkins) - 5 days SP Josh Johnson (The Bends) - 70 days Brooklyn BABiPs C/RF Dave Engle (Strained back lifting PBR cases) - 10 days LR Ricky Diamond (Tried helping Engle, didn't go so well) - 10 days Canton Catastrophes 2B Carlos Baerga (Don't Cross the Boss) - 9 days MR Paul Assenmacher (Seriously, don't) - 10 days P John Franco (Not kidding) - 10 days Detroit Cougars 2B Charlie Gehringer (bit by the mascot) - 3 days Harvard Elites SR Will McEnaney (accusations of plagiarism) - 9 days LF Barry Bonds (accusations of perjury) - 9 days Idaho Potatoes DH Jim Bottomley (No!) - 3 days SP J.R. Richard (NO!) - 6 days SP Pete Alexander (NO!!!) - 18 days Miami Manatees SP Randy Johnson (Fastball hit bird, bird's family hit back) - 44 days SP Al Leiter (unfortunate feeding accident) - Out for Season Million Dollar Men SP Jake Weimer (Temporary Workforce Reduction) - 35 days CL Bruce Sutter (Temporary Workforce Reduction) - 65 days SS Bobby Wallace (Not-so-Temporary Workforce Reduction) - 198 days Nowhere Men SP Bill Lee (Got lost in Nowhere) - Will Miss Next Start (3 days) Omaha Forgettables SP Dave Stieb (Stubbed toe) - 7 Days (May or may not miss next start, next up is Jimmie Key) Walney Rakers SU Al Holland (brief vacation to his namesake) - 6 days
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Grinnblade posted:Canton Catastrophes  IDAAAAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOOO!  I won't forget this!Call up Verne Fuller from the Minors to cover for Carlos. Fuller takes Baerga's spot in all lineups until the latter is healed. Paul will have to sit out for now. Move everyone on Team Relief below Assenmacher up one spot to cover him. Move him back to Middle Relief as soon as he's better. Franco's injury management details to come when I find out how well the El Tiante Experience went. Monathin fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jan 17, 2013 |
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Grinnblade posted:Expansion Cup VIII Injury Report - May  God drat, there goes my best two performing pitchers so far. loving pigeons... New Rotation (ugh): SP – Kevin Brown SP – Kenny Rogers SP – Octavio Dotel SP – Nolan Ryan SP – Zach Britton And... that's just ugly. I fully expect Nolan Ryan to poo poo his old man pants and be out for the season too. There goes my hopes of being competitive, now I'm rooting for a good draft pick! Tank, Manatees, tank! EDIT: For clarity: use the above rotation until Johnson is healthy again, at that point change the rotation to the following: SP - Randy Johnson SP – Kevin Brown SP – Kenny Rogers SP – Nolan Ryan SP – Octavio Dotel GrickleGrass fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Jan 17, 2013 |
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Pander posted:Two months without injuries for the Sad Pandas? I must have drafted Herm Schneider as my trainer... Well, nothing that lasted to the end of a month, anyway. Max Lanier currently has 1 day left on an injury but the starter AFTER him is currently up, so he'll be hale and hearty before his next start which is why he isn't listed. Reminder: Unless specifically told to put players back in when they become healthy, I will not stop the simulation midway through a month, so minor injuries that come and go will not be listed on the injury report. edit: also remember that these injuries are as of May 31st. I've had a couple people get confused on this point.
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Potatoes, I've got an injured Pete Alexander, you've got an injured Pete Alexander. Surely we can work something out.
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Grinnblade posted:Expansion Cup VIII Injury Report - May Just leave him there, we'll cope for a week with a shortened bullpen.
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Smasher Dynamo posted:It's a scientific fact that you can't die on the moon.  Smasher Dynamo posted:But still, mrnoun's lack of spirit must be punished. Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down there. You accuse *me* of all people of lack of spirit? That's unacceptable. That's absurd! That's like accusing Marauder of lacking ambition, or the Packers of still being in the playoffs. I may not idle regularly in the IRC chat anymore, but that's just a sign of good taste at this point. I've still been contributing to the thread(s). Sometimes I get the feeling you don't even read them, Smasher (which is another thing you have in common with the rest of LP). If you think about it, truly think about it, you'd understand why, of all teams, the Luna Landers HAD to take Sudden Death. This isn't about baseball, or we'd have just taken Jim Sundberg to fill our backup catcher role. Nor is it just about comedy, or we'd have taken Brad Lidge, Super League Hero. No, this is more fundamental than that. This is about who we are, and where we come from. How could I, of all people, pass up Sudden Death? How the hell, after everything you've written about this team, could you expect us to Fear the Reaper? No. Any failure that's taken place has been on your part, Smasher: a fundamental failure to understand the characters you've written. Smasher Dynamo posted:Therefore, I have given Bruzer the following task. He must give a chapter-by-chapter book report on...a certain work of baseball fiction. I will let him introduce it. If he succeeds, he will be let back into the Super-League. This, however, pretty much did break my spirit. The final question is, do I still have a team? If so, I have a challenge to make. If not, it's been fun.
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