Pander posted:

I don't even know where to begin. It's like they're Teddy Ruxpins with NRA talking points cassettes inside.

Pander posted:

At my office I'm surrounded by 4 different late 20s/early 30s engineers who talk about guns every single day. Yesterday one of them had Fox News streaming from his computer all day long. Nobody should subject me to hours of loving Charles Krauthammer.

They're the epitome of "I'm safe with my gun, so nobody should ever be able to take it away from me just because everyone else is bad" type of thinking. They think everything, even Barrett Light '50s and M4A1's should be available to them because "they're responsible."

I don't even know where to begin. It's like they're Teddy Ruxpins with NRA talking points cassettes inside.

Flaggy posted:

This, this is exactly what I have around me at work at all times, except instead of a couple of guys try 50 at all times talking about "are guns" and Obama is Hitler, and the sky wizards are coming. On their lunch breaks they go shopping for ammo, because "everyone is sold out around here all the time"

Peven Stan posted:

Jesus where the hell do goons work where this kind of attitude is prevalent? Every office I've worked in has been pretty left leaning.

Peven Stan posted:

Jesus where the hell do goons work where this kind of attitude is prevalent? Every office I've worked in has been pretty left leaning.

Peven Stan posted:

Jesus where the hell do goons work where this kind of attitude is prevalent? Every office I've worked in has been pretty left leaning.

Flaggy posted:

This, this is exactly what I have around me at work at all times, except instead of a couple of guys try 50 at all times talking about "are guns" and Obama is Hitler, and the sky wizards are coming. On their lunch breaks they go shopping for ammo, because "everyone is sold out around here all the time"

Rush Limbaugh posted:

The two worse scourges of modern history have been the scourges of communism and Nazism. Untold millions of people had their lives destroyed because of communism and Nazism. Now what was communism? What is it? Simply put, communism is an attempt to whip up a war between economic classes of people. Nazism, ultimately, was an attempt to whip up a war between the races. Now we have an American presidential campaign, that seems to be trying to do both these things. Correct me if I'm wrong, we've got a president that encourages class warfare, he's promoting class envy. We have a president who doesn't mind at all this war between the race.

Boston.com posted:

On his show today, he criticized Democrats' proposals on healthcare, the environment, and other issues. Limbaugh also complained that anyone who disagrees with President Obama and Democrats is demonized, when Obama's grassroots supporters are the real "brownshirts." And on Limbaugh's website, an Obama healthcare logo is put side-by-side with a Nazi symbol.

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Rush compared Obama to Adolf Hitler in the way he makes propaganda. Hitler is a useful icon. When you invoke Hitler in a comparison everyone knows what you mean, but a more accurate comparison would be to David Duke the debonair, American neo-Nazi and Grand Wizard of the KKK, who put a friendly face on racial extremism.
Rush Limbaugh compares Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler

The black liberation doctrine of Obama's church in Chicago is based on black racial identity and is similar to a black version of Nazism in its fundamental racial concept. It is little understood history, but black emulation of white supremacy goes back nearly a century, when Marcus Garvey recommended that black groups model themselves after white supremacist groups. Garvey was the prophet of black nationalism and once predicted that one day the black race would produce their own "black Hitler." See the link below for more information.

Obama & the Black Nazi Movement

Jeremiah Wright has been the leading implementer of the ideas of Black Liberation Theology in the nation and Obama called him his spiritual guide. So, it is absurd to say that Obama did not know what Black Liberation theology is all about, the destruction of the white race, America and the traditional Christian church. The media never fully explained to the public what Black Liberation Theology is and how it relates to black nationalist sects, such as Farrakhan's Nation of Islam, which was in large part the inspiration for the Black Liberation Theology of Obama's own anti-American religious sect, ministered by the now notorious Jeremiah Wright.

Peven Stan posted:

Jesus where the hell do goons work where this kind of attitude is prevalent? Every office I've worked in has been pretty left leaning.

kik2dagroin posted:

Speaking of Hitler and Obama:
Heard a segment on Limbaugh about the audacity of Bob Schieffer to compare the gun control fight with the country's struggle during WWII to defeat Hitler.

Why is the Left not criticized for this? They slander, defame, and instill fear in their base. They compare "their enemies" to the Nazis and Hitler! The people on the Left wrote books and movies on the assassination of GW Bush! How about the dangerous provocation of their language?! It's coming directly from the White HutHouse! The seething hatred of the Left knows no bounds! The Media loves any President who sticks it to the people! Why are these media pundits stalking me and repeating the things I say!? Because they hate America! The Left will never honestly say that they want to get rid of the 2nd amendment! I am not the one being dishonest here!
(5/25/12)

(8/6/09)
Also, my google search of "limbaugh compares nazi" yielded this gem from a Tea Party group in San Diego, CA


It really is amazing how much projection goes on in every second of Limbaugh's program.
EDIT: For those whole like the A/V https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8w-Ll0JXSU

BUSH 2112 posted:

It's pointless to talk to them. The people who watch Fox News and listen to Rush and Beck all day long don't have arguments, and they don't have reasons. They don't see things with nuance, they see things in black and white, and this is a black and white issue. The 2nd Amendment says they can have guns, so they can have guns. There's no subtlety, it's plain and it is what it is.

Not all gun owners, or even gun enthusiasts, are like that. In fact, most aren't. But, in all honesty, the people who you're talking about that just spew talking points, they don't want a discussion. There's no discourse to be had. It's FYGM with guns. The only thing you'll get from trying to engage them is a headache. They're irl trolls.

It's the same thing as right-wing christians: the majority of them don't believe the terrible things that the guys on top say, but the vocal minority of the minority are loud and idiotic, and a lot of people are afraid to question it or just think that it goes without saying that they're not like those crazy people.

Oceanlife posted:

I really can't understand the anti-gun fever. I see more outrage towards guns that really aren't used to commit crimes than the lack of public medical research funding.

Am I doing some kind of logical fallacy or missing some political calculus? Because gun control seems like a wedge issue to manipulate liberal voters in the same way conservatives get hoodwinked with the gay marriage issue. All we're doing is unifying conservatives when we should be pushing bank reform, education reform, and health reform.

Spacedad posted:

This post reminds me of a thing Maddow did this week, breaking down some of the tactics of the right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwRnF_bhzls

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UniversalBrother108 16 hours ago

This comment has received too many negative votes

Her troll schtick is a logical fallacy, it is unfortunate people take this as rational thinking.

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UniversalBrother108 4 hours ago

As in she is not engaging ANY of the ideas of her opponents, but instead she is creating some arbitrary term to discredit their ideas. Its a clever trick where all she is doing is invoking that word to disregard thoughts and opinions of other people without actually addressing what they are actually saying. This methodology renders her logical invalid, as she is not critically engaging any of the ideas, thoughts, or opinions coming from the people she is labeling as "trolls".

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BUSH 2112 posted:

Crossposting this from the pictures thread because it's pissing me off more and more as I read it.



At first I thought this was just the garden variety right-wing silliness, but that one line at the top really makes me mad. "Introduce teen Girl-Scout delegates to the concept of 'sexual rights' for children without their parents' consent." It just makes me incredibly angry that we have all kinds of people who are trying their hardest to eliminate rape-culture through direct action, social media, and awareness campaigns, and here you have these people from the stone age decrying the fact that little girls are being taught that they have the right to not be loving raped or molested. They're mad that girls are being taught that.

I just, I don't know. I don't know how they do it, conservatives. I need a break from reading their insane bullshit, because I just have disgust fatigue.

Seoinin posted:

Marxist badges? What, like, Suzie got this one for seizing the means of production?

Spacedad posted:

This was posted on facebook by a friend who said "This makes me want to buy more girl scout cookies."

It's great because everything they list there as 'bad' is actually great, and why the girl scouts are great.
It's like this thing was written by a Saturday morning cartoon villain who detests all goodness. "EWWW. LOVE, and HUGS. Such DETESTABLE creatures, SHARING and CARING."

Wheresmy5bucks posted:

K, I'm buying girl scout cookies when they set up shop in front of my grocery store now. My diet can suck it. If they can eat horrible chicken sandwiches to protest homosexuality, I'll eat thin mints to further the gay agenda. I'll play junk food politics too.

But yeah, the Conservative movement in America(and probably elsewhere) has degraded into cartoon villainy for awhile. Boo Gay Soldiers, Yay Letting Sick People die, Harassing people who helped scared children Yay, 47% of the country are horrible moochers who want free stuff.

Their potential presidential candidates wanted to conquer the moon, believed Rapists carried out God's will, and could be compared to Patrick Bateman and Gargamel.

Sharing is just another word for COMMUNISM.

Wheresmy5bucks posted:

K, I'm buying girl scout cookies when they set up shop in front of my grocery store now. My diet can suck it. If they can eat horrible chicken sandwiches to protest homosexuality, I'll eat thin mints to further the gay agenda. I'll play junk food politics too.

Cordyceps Headache posted:

Obviously, since you couldn't more communist than the Smurfs.

Number Two Stunna posted:

I want a marxist badge now Wish I was a girl scout

ErIog posted:

The Girl Scouts have been loving awesome for a while. It's really interesting how they've maintained sanity and progressivism while the Boy Scouts were taken over the cliff by right wing nutjobs completely against the spirit the organization was originally founded on.

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

Men. The Boy Scouts is an organization obsessed with turning boys into the archetypical (non-existent) Grizzled Rugged American Man.

ShadowCatboy posted:

I bought a box of girl scout cookies a while back after they came out supporting transgendered kids. After seeing the amount of trans fats in there though, I think I'll just give a straight-up donation instead.

Oceanlife posted:

When I was in Cub Scouts it was just making some race cars at a church and going over to random kids houses for arts and crafts, with a generous side serving of Jesus. I would have killed to be taught how to make camp fires and shoot guns and all that Grizzled Rugged American Man stuff. But after two years of de facto bible study, I quit.

Orange Devil posted:

I'm now picturing the Girl Scouts as the vanguard of American socialist revolution. I guess the dark side really does have cookies.

Oceanlife posted:

When I was in Cub Scouts it was just making some race cars at a church and going over to random kids houses for arts and crafts, with a generous side serving of Jesus. I would have killed to be taught how to make camp fires and shoot guns and all that Grizzled Rugged American Man stuff. But after two years of de facto bible study, I quit.

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

I get the feeling that consumers of right-wing media don't really understand how to turn off their Right Wing Blather to stand in loving line for five minutes. Too much time spent away from their precious Fox News?