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this troper posted:Then again my Librarian is taking Prescience, which I believe you can use on a turn you deepstrike (blessings happen in movement phase and you deepstrike in before the movement phase right?). A lot of things for me to consider really, which isn't a bad thing, just shows how flexible the codex is. "On a turn that a psyker arrives from reserve, he cannot attempt to manifest any psychic powers that must be manifested at the start of the Movement phase."
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Yeah, the FAQ clarifies that if your psyker is on the board at the beginning of the turn, you can bless units coming in from reserves, but you still can't bless with a psyker that just arrived.
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Jan 17, 2013 19:28
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What are the options for the Deathwing Command Squad? I want to grab a box and build it, but I don't have my codex yet. Fedex delivered it to the wrong address or something.  I'm mainly interested in if I have to take a sergeant or if he can be upgraded into the champion with a halberd.
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Jan 17, 2013 20:04
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Reckon I'm going to grab the Ravenwing Command box, just to paint the models up. Especially with the old-school Mk6 helmets 
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Jan 17, 2013 20:07
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Safety Factor posted:What are the options for the Deathwing Command Squad? I want to grab a box and build it, but I don't have my codex yet. Fedex delivered it to the wrong address or something. There isn't a sergeant in the command squad: it's just 5 terminators. One can be upgraded into a Champion - WS 5, changes to Inf (Ch) and replaces storm bolter and power fist for halberd - for 5 points.
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VogeGandire posted:Reckon I'm going to grab the Ravenwing Command box, just to paint the models up. Especially with the old-school Mk6 helmets You get like 7 Mk6 helmets in the box. It's pretty nice.
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Jan 17, 2013 20:07
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:There isn't a sergeant in the command squad: it's just 5 terminators. One can be upgraded into a Champion - WS 5, changes to Inf (Ch) and replaces storm bolter and power fist for halberd - for 5 points. Sweet, thanks. Beyond that it's just the apothecary, standard bearer, and the regular terminator options, right?
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Jan 17, 2013 20:11
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Safety Factor posted:What are the options for the Deathwing Command Squad? I want to grab a box and build it, but I don't have my codex yet. Fedex delivered it to the wrong address or something. Deathwang command squad: 5 terminators. one deathwing can be upgraded to a champion with a halberd one deathwing can be upgraded to an apothecary w narthecium one deathwing can take take a cyclone, heavy flamer, plasma cannon or rear end cannon One deathwing can take a banner. any model can replace powerfist with a chainfist. any deathwing can replace all weapons with a pair of lightning claws or t.hammer + shield Does it look like you can use the helmets with the knight torsos? I am not a big fan of my space mans killing things without proper head protection.
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Jan 17, 2013 20:16
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Manifest posted:As cool as it is that they finally made a throgg model, I'm a bit disappointed that it's not as good as the Gribbly Miniatures troll king. How can you tell what Throgg looks like from the Bigfoot shot?
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Jan 17, 2013 20:52
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Tommofork posted:How can you tell what Throgg looks like from the Bigfoot shot? Step over to the Warhammer fantasy thread.
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Jan 17, 2013 20:58
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The Saddest Robot posted:Does it look like you can use the helmets with the knight torsos? I am not a big fan of my space mans killing things without proper head protection. One of the knight torsos has the robed head sculpted on it.
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Jan 17, 2013 21:00
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While we're talking about the Deathwing Command Squad, I'm trying to figure out if the apothecary can carry a TH/SS. The codex says: "One Deathwing Terminator may be upgraded to a Deathwing Apothecary, replacing their power fist with a narthecium" And: "Any Deathwing Terminator may replace all of his weapons with a TH/SS" I'm assuming that if you give a terminator a TH/SS, he loses his powerfist and thus doesn't have one to replace with a narthecium to become an apothecary. And if you upgrade a terminator to an apothecary, he's no longer a "Deathwing Terminator", so you can't swap his weapons to TH/SS. Is this correct?
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Megaspam posted:While we're talking about the Deathwing Command Squad, I'm trying to figure out if the apothecary can carry a TH/SS. Yes
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Jan 17, 2013 21:04
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The Saddest Robot posted:You don't have to take a sergeant (you can't). This gents is the new Deathwing. Fear my DEATHWANG 
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Jan 17, 2013 21:11
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Indolent Bastard posted:This gents is the new Deathwing. Fear my DEATHWANG Hammer of Wrath
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Jan 17, 2013 21:12
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Jan 17, 2013 21:13
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Think I'm gonna start playing with my DraigoWang again.
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Jan 17, 2013 21:16
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My greenwang spews plasma.
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Cataphract posted:My greenwang spews plasma. you should get that checked out
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Jan 17, 2013 21:40
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Cut out the dumb chat, pipe in the disappoint-chat: What's this, then? WoC instead of Daemons next month? I thought WoC already got a bunch of releases recently.
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Tommofork posted:How can you tell what Throgg looks like from the Bigfoot shot? I think it's a pretty clear shot (in the WHF thread). It's a cool mini and all, I just prefer the pose and sculpt on the gribbly one.
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AgentF posted:What's this, then? WoC instead of Daemons next month? I thought WoC already got a bunch of releases recently. They got a wave of models and a smallish update with two new units in WD. Chances are several books are ready and they're just fitting them in their release schedule using advanced business algorithms based on careful planning (throwing darts).
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Indolent Bastard posted:This gents is the new Deathwing. Fear my DEATHWANG This quite literally made me laugh out loud.
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Jan 17, 2013 22:20
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WoC? Really? gently caress.  At least the Mutalith monster could be useful for conversion bits.
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JerryLee posted:"On a turn that a psyker arrives from reserve, he cannot attempt to manifest any psychic powers that must be manifested at the start of the Movement phase." Yeah I just read that now while reviewing the rules, woops. Which actually works out in my favor, since it means Vengeful Strike won't be wasted when the Librarian DSes in with the other terminators!
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Guys, I'm going to play Deathwing and if you don't like it you can just imagine I said happy space puppies.  *opens model case revealing ranks upon ranks of death company marines* 
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One of these days when I finish my bugwing, I want to start hoarding Hybrids to make a Hybridwing, or CultWing army to use as allies. Any ideas for a limo? Is this too un-40k? http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/zebu-land-cruiser.html
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7thBatallion posted:One of these days when I finish my bugwing, I want to start hoarding Hybrids to make a Hybridwing, or CultWing army to use as allies. Any ideas for a limo? Is this too un-40k? It's not that it doesn't look like something that could belong in 40k, it's that it looks like a rugged and armored military vehicle, not a civilian/rich dude's uparmored limo. Depending how you build the hybrids/cultists, like if they're military/police/PDF themed it might work.
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Quick question about the updated Screams of Tzeentch: their special attack profile (S5 AP2 Armourbane), is it a single use instead of their normal 3 attacks, or is it applied to every one of their attacks?
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All of their attacks have that profile; no one would be complaining about them if they only got one attack with those stats. They probably need a little point cost bump as well.
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Mango Polo posted:Quick question about the updated Screams of Tzeentch: their special attack profile (S5 AP2 Armourbane), is it a single use instead of their normal 3 attacks, or is it applied to every one of their attacks? The profile is listed like a melee weapon profile, so I assume that it can be used on each one of their attacks like you would with a powersword or poweraxe. I have the WD update here and it doesn't say anything about being a one time thing, and nothing I've seen in the FAQ suggests it is either.
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Phyresis posted:
Quoted from the other thread, but dam. I am going to proxy one of those as a Maulerfiend because frankly it looks better and will suit the aesthetic of my army better. I would have to greenstuff a nurgle belly onto it though.
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Ah alright, makes sense that people would complain if it's applied to all their attacks. Delicious. I have a 1000 point match with my CSM coming up on Sunday against a friend with the new DA codex who wants to test the waters. Tzeentch Daemons are tagging in to counterbalance that anti-CSM slant the Dark Angels have 
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You are a bad man and I hope you lose. jk brah
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Just played my first game with the new dark angel codex - The Emperors Will, lengthways down the board - I had Sammael, Librarian on bike, Command squad with Devastation Banner, 16 Ravenwing Bikers, 3 attack bikes, 3 typhoons, darkshroud, whirlwind and devastators with 2 flakk missiles, 2 lascannons. Versus a Fateweaver, 3x7 Screamer, 3x8 Flamer, 3x7 Plaguebearer, Herald list. It started well with me wiping 2 units of flamers, killing his warlord (herald on disk), and grounding Fateweaver by second turn. However the second squad of flamers had got a lucky deep strike right next to my command squad and killed all but the banner bearer, took Sammael down to 1 wound, and wrecked the darkshroud (not that it was helping any anyway) before dying. Sammael then promptly died himself to a Plasma cannon overheat and the banner bearer took a breath of Chaos hit to the face next turn. By this point I had manoeuvred myself into a corner taking out the flamers, the screamers were too close to avoid and the resulting multi-assaults wiped all but 3 bikers who had outshone themselves by shooting down the Fateweaver in overwatch. Game ended with the screamers taking out the last of my troops, my 2 remaing Typhoons speeding down the board trying (and failing) to shift the Plaguebearers off their objective and the whirlwind missing or failing to wound with almost every shot. Speaking of, does anyone know if Landspeeders bought as part of a troops Ravenwing attack Squad still count as a scoring unit? It doesn't mention it anywhere as far as I can see, so I'm inclined to say no.
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They were actually errata'd in the last codex to not be scoring and they are not scoring in the new codex either.
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So, back to the Deathwing command squad; what should I arm them with? The apothecary is stuck with a storm bolter/first aid kit and I want to run a champion and a standard bearer. Which'll give me 3 guys I can change the loadout on. I don't know if one to three hammer guys are worth it and I'm tempted to leave everyone with the standard storm bolter/fist. I'd like to keep the two basic guys to give me two wounds before the specialists start dying, so no heavy weapons. Any thoughts? There's a lot of options with this unit and I have the spare bits to arm them however I want.
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Safety Factor posted:So, back to the Deathwing command squad; what should I arm them with? The apothecary is stuck with a storm bolter/first aid kit and I want to run a champion and a standard bearer. Which'll give me 3 guys I can change the loadout on. I don't know if one to three hammer guys are worth it and I'm tempted to leave everyone with the standard storm bolter/fist. I'd like to keep the two basic guys to give me two wounds before the specialists start dying, so no heavy weapons. Any thoughts? There's a lot of options with this unit and I have the spare bits to arm them however I want. I'm planning on running my DW Command squad tomorrow with 3 TH/SS, 1 Chainfist with a Cyclone Missile Launcher on his back (he can shoot SB and fire the missiles on same turn), and a DW Champion. If you want to make a shooty one it might still be worth taking a couple TH/SS to LoSir and stand at the front and such. Not sure if an apothecary is worth it, I've heard mixed ideas about them.
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Greenwing is actually fine because it's meant to differentiate the non-Death- and/or Ravenwing units in the same codex, whereas just saying Dark Angels may not be quite as specific. Anyone who disagrees is a butt. EDIT: FWIW I came up with the 'Golden Shower' name and 'Greenwing' doesn't bother me in the least. 
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Speaking of the command squad, I don't think I'll be taking any banners tomorrow since none of the ones available to me are priced nice enough for me to bother using. The +1A one is the one I'd be most likely to use and it seems kind of redundant or unnecessary, especially since I'm not fielding enough melee DW to really warrant it. I'd like to try the Devastation one, but it's damned pricey so I don't know if I'd bother using except in like 1750 or 2000 point games.
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