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9031 | 65.25% |
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1191 | 8.60% |
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1603 | 11.58% |
| Waa |
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748 | 5.40% |
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Cemetry Gator posted:As Bill McNeal once said: "Don't try and confuse me with the facts."  Here's some facts: November and December are, almost without exception, by far the two biggest months of the year for hardware sales. In the US the Wii and 360 both sold roughly the same amount in their first January + February + March as in their first November + December, the PS3 sold about 72% as much in Jan/Feb/Mar as Nov/Dec. I can't find the Media Create or European numbers for those same time periods, but if anyone can find them I'd be curious to see if they're similar. Nintendo predicted they would sell 5.5 million Wii U's by April. They sold 2 million Wii U units worldwide in November and December. Even if it follows the pattern that the Wii did and sells that many in the next 3 months (a big if considering there's almost nothing coming out until March) it will have sold 4 million units by April. 4 million is significantly less than 5.5 million. I mean, just the fact that Nintendo had to try and spin the December numbers by trying to convince people that revenue was the only metric that mattered (despite the fact that unlike the Wii they take a small loss on every Wii U) should let you know that the launch isn't going as well as they wanted. But whatever! I hope the Wii U ends up selling gangbusters and getting a lot of cool games because I'm getting one in a couple of weeks and I want more stuff to play on it!
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Jan 18, 2013 02:12
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Chronojam posted:You could also combine the P-wing with a found Tanooki suit to have free-flying Tanooki Was there any benefit to the tanooki suit over the regular leaf powerup?
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Jan 18, 2013 02:17
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Bobnumerotres posted:Was there any benefit to the tanooki suit over the regular leaf powerup? Down + B transforms you into a statue as long as you hold those buttons down. You're invincible, but immobile.
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Jan 18, 2013 02:30
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Alright, got my copy of Xenoblade! Did they design this around a Wiimote/Nunchuk setup, or should I buy a Classic Controller to get the most out of it?
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Jan 18, 2013 02:33
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RE: Mario powerups Where the hell is Kuribo's Shoe? They've been holding back the greatest 2d Mario powerup for like 20 years. If they had put it into the NSMB series I would have been far more interested in it  Minidust posted:Alright, got my copy of Xenoblade! Did they design this around a Wiimote/Nunchuk setup, or should I buy a Classic Controller to get the most out of it? I found it easier to play on a 360 controller/classic controller.
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Jan 18, 2013 02:34
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Minidust posted:Alright, got my copy of Xenoblade! Did they design this around a Wiimote/Nunchuk setup, or should I buy a Classic Controller to get the most out of it? You can use either! I use the Classic controller, personally, but some folks here swear by the 'mote/nunchuk setup. Try both and see which you prefer.
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Jan 18, 2013 02:35
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Minidust posted:Alright, got my copy of Xenoblade! Did they design this around a Wiimote/Nunchuk setup, or should I buy a Classic Controller to get the most out of it? I started with remote and nunchuck and never once felt the desire to try anything else. It just works!
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Jan 18, 2013 03:09
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Well I don't actually have a Classic Controller yet so this is good news. Thanks gentlemen!
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Jan 18, 2013 03:15
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Minidust posted:Well I don't actually have a Classic Controller yet so this is good news. Thanks gentlemen! The Wiimote/nunchuk set up lets you easily move around while selecting skills, while you have to position your hand really awkwardly if you wanna move and pick attacks while playing with the CC.
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Jan 18, 2013 03:27
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Crowbear posted:RE: Mario powerups It's not quite the same thing, but Kirby's Return to Dreamland on the Wii had a Kuribo's Shoe of its own. 
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Jan 18, 2013 03:37
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I agree that Kuribo's Shoe is one of the greatest power-up's of all time but the Hammer Bros. Suit from the same game is my all time favourite from the Mario Series. Maybe that's because it's also pretty rare.
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Jan 18, 2013 04:41
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Crowbear posted:RE: Mario powerups Wait, can you use the 360 controller on the Wii U? If so that's really cool and kind of progressive for Nintendo. I really want to like this thing but I can't see any reason to think it won't be as disappointing as the Wii was for me. The little kid who grew up on Nintendo in me still wants to root for them even though they've been fairly consistently not meeting expectations for like, 6 years. I guess Pokemon X and Y have tricked me into buying a 3DS eventually, so that's something to their credit I suppose. The upcoming release schedule for Wii U looks pretty grim, I will have to continue waiting to see if any games I want to buy are ever released.
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Jan 18, 2013 04:42
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Khanstant posted:Wait, can you use the 360 controller on the Wii U? If so that's really cool and kind of progressive for Nintendo. Nope, sorry. I played Xenoblade using a 360 controller with Dolphin on my PC.
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Jan 18, 2013 04:43
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Crowbear posted:Blah blah Who the gently caress cares? Console sales don't mean good games. Dreamcast sold like poo poo and had a ton of awesome games. If anything, that's what people should be complaining about. Where are the games? The Mario game owned, but I need something else to sink my teeth into.
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Jan 18, 2013 05:16
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Who the gently caress cares? If the Dreamcast sold better it probably would have had even more awesome games  More sales = more good 3rd party games, exclusive or otherwise.But yes. The only game I even remotely care about before the end of March is Rayman. It's pretty sad.
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Jan 18, 2013 05:32
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Crowbear posted:If the Dreamcast sold better it probably would have had even more awesome games Meh. I'd take the Dreamcast and its entire library over the Wii's any day. Console sales mean poo poo to me as a consumer. I only give a gently caress about the games. I really wish Rayman didn't get pushed back. Too many people bitching about the whole Murphy thing. Its literally the best loving part about the drat thing. My wife and I were having a blast during the demo.
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Jan 18, 2013 05:39
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Down + B transforms you into a statue as long as you hold those buttons down. You're invincible, but immobile. The statue form can drop on, and kill, normally invincible enemies, including thwomps, spinning shiney discs, and even fire from flame cannons. Crowbear posted:More sales = more good 3rd party games, exclusive or otherwise. Yes, we all remember the Wii's huge library of third party blockbusters such as Chronojam fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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Jan 18, 2013 05:45
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Chronojam posted:Yes, we all remember the Wii's huge library of third party blockbusters such as Jerry Rice and Nitus Dog Football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tYUsN28XBM
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Jan 18, 2013 07:32
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Chronojam posted:Yes, we all remember the Wii's huge library of third party blockbusters such as Balls of Fury
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Jan 18, 2013 07:34
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The Wii had... other issues.
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Jan 18, 2013 07:34
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Chronojam posted:Yes, we all remember the Wii's huge library of third party blockbusters such as The Wii was very special. The people on it that wanted "real games" and such always turned out to be a loud minority when amazing games actually did come out. Lower development costs than the other consoles and the kid appeal led to tons of budget-priced shovelware for ignorant parents to pick up. 5-year old hardware at launch meant all the games on the HD consoles were very expensive or outright impossible to downport. Software sales on it were just bizarre though. The highest selling game that wasn't a pack-in or bundled with a Wiimote was Mario Kart Wii, outselling pretty much every other "real" game by tens of millions, including NSMB. Wii U has a good online infrastructure, powerful components, etc. that solves all the limitations the Wii had. But since it actually is expensive to develop and port to, the numbers matter many times more now. extremebuff fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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Jan 18, 2013 07:40
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The Wii needed more games like Muscle March.
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Jan 18, 2013 07:41
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CousinKevin posted:The Wii needed more games like Muscle March. Agreed.
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Jan 18, 2013 08:19
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I had no idea what Muscle March was so I looked it up and let me just say  
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Jan 18, 2013 08:38
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Bobnumerotres posted:The Wii was very special. The people on it that wanted "real games" and such always turned out to be a loud minority when amazing games actually did come out. Lower development costs than the other consoles and the kid appeal led to tons of budget-priced shovelware for ignorant parents to pick up. 5-year old hardware at launch meant all the games on the HD consoles were very expensive or outright impossible to downport. I am not certain what about the WiiU makes it expensive to port for? Also, not having games you're looking forward to in Q1 of MATURE consoles isn't even unusual, Crowbear. There's nothing I want to play on PS3 out 360 until March, either. People seem really convinced this is something special about this particular launch. I guess they'll remember after next year when the new consoles are barren wastelands until Fall.
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Jan 18, 2013 09:33
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Bobnumerotres posted:Software sales on it were just bizarre though. The highest selling game that wasn't a pack-in or bundled with a Wiimote was Mario Kart Wii, outselling pretty much every other "real" game by tens of millions, including NSMB. Mario Kart was a pack-in though.
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Jan 18, 2013 09:51
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Crowbear posted:I had no idea what Muscle March was so I looked it up and let me just say You should play Cho Aniki.
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Jan 18, 2013 11:52
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Crowbear posted:I had no idea what Muscle March was so I looked it up and let me just say What is this? It looks amazing. I need it.
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Jan 18, 2013 12:57
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Kilometers Davis posted:What is this? It looks amazing. I need it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hcElGydzb8 For every question it answers, it creates two more.
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Jan 18, 2013 13:36
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Chronojam posted:Yes, we all remember the Wii's huge library of third party blockbusters such as As someone who works for a 3rd Party publisher part of a group making determinations on what games to make for what platforms, I can say that the Wii was good to us as a platform. Just Dance was incredibly successful on it, and I think you'd be hard pressed to call it "shovelware", at least not JD3 and JD4 as the production values are quite high. It's just not a platform that worked for the kinds of 3rd Party games that people on this forum care about. When determining what to make for a platform, there's two things I look at: install base and what type of games sell (well there's more than that but whatever). You need a large audience AND that audience should have proven (or you should have evidence) that they want to buy the type of game you want to make. At launch, it's tough because you really have no idea, so you do kind of a wide spread of titles, some hardcore (Red Steel, ZombiU) and some casual (Rabbids) and see what worked. Then continue down whichever path worked. If you look at the early years of the Wii you can see some attempts at hardcore 3rd party games but except for launch, not many sold, whereas the casual games sold like gangbusters, so publishers went that way. I don't think you could find a publisher out there that was unhappy with their software sales, overall, on the Wii. Most of them got some pretty big hits out of it. Just nothing you care about. bilperkins2 fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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Jan 18, 2013 14:23
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Rack posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hcElGydzb8 I have no words for what I've just seen. I've played many a strange videogame in my time, and I've seen videos of many more. Yet try as I might, all that is utterable by my stricken subconcious is an open-mouthed garbling of confused and startled syllables.
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Jan 18, 2013 16:20
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What's so shocking to people about Muscle March? You're hanging out with your musclebuddies and someone steals your protien powder. Of course you have to chase them through walls to get it back by posing like them. Makes perfect sense to me.
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Jan 18, 2013 16:25
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That's pretty much the most straight-forward and logical game summary I've ever heard. Makes infinitely more sense than Mario.
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Jan 18, 2013 16:34
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What have you guys never gone to YLLS? That shits pretty par for the course.
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Jan 18, 2013 16:37
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Brinty posted:What's so shocking to people about Muscle March? It's only January and we already have a strong candidate for post of the year.
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Jan 18, 2013 16:37
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kirbysuperstar posted:You should play Cho Aniki. I've always meant to. That series looks hilarious. theflyingorc posted:I am not certain what about the WiiU makes it expensive to port for? There's plenty of games for PS3/360 that I'm looking forward to. I have Ni No Kuni, Metal Gear Rising, Crysis 3, the new Sly Cooper, and Dead Space 3 on my list all before March. e: Brinty posted:What's so shocking to people about Muscle March? How did this not win every GOTY the year it came out? Crowbear fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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Jan 18, 2013 16:41
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I'm really enjoying Tekken Tag Tournament 2 so far. Also Warriors Orochi 3. What's the Online scene like in TTT2? I might hop on and fight some dudes, it'll be nice if they're all not like crazy good because I'm not either and getting constantly stomped would be THE WORST.
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Jan 18, 2013 17:01
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Armillo: The Parallel Universe Mystery was announced yesterday for the eShop, and it looks like it might be worth keeping an eye on. As long as the controls are tight, it should be a fun blend of Super Mario Galaxy and Monkey Ball.
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Jan 18, 2013 17:48
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deadwing posted:Armillo: The Parallel Universe Mystery was announced yesterday for the eShop, and it looks like it might be worth keeping an eye on. As long as the controls are tight, it should be a fun blend of Super Mario Galaxy and Monkey Ball. It looks like a gamecube game... But it does look fun.
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Jan 18, 2013 18:11
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Crowbear posted:
I think you misunderstood what I said. I wasn't asking for facts. Allow me to introduce you to Newsradio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQUNX7PTG8A&t=95s You're welcome.
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