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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

There is no way it is getting resolved in 4 days, regardless.

$1300 for a laptop??

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Venetir
May 19, 2009
I understand it's not getting resolved in four days. I'm just getting the feeling he is trying to weasel out of this and want to know if I'm screwed or if I can make him hold to his word. Yes, $1300 for a laptop.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Venetir posted:

Couldn't I just do this in small claims court? It's a $1300 laptop, would it cost more either way, and couldn't I sue him for legal fees as well?

Possibly, probably not but small claims may have a lower limit where you are, and almost certainly you can sue him for legal fees - but you even more certainly aren't going to get them awarded.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Also how old was the laptop?

Venetir
May 19, 2009

Kalman posted:

Possibly, probably not but small claims may have a lower limit where you are, and almost certainly you can sue him for legal fees - but you even more certainly aren't going to get them awarded.

Sorry, I should have included it: I'm in Boise, Idaho, it's a $5000 cap on small claims here, so I'm definitely under that.

The laptop is two years old. A comparable replacement is about $949 at the moment, if that helps any. I took it to Best Buy at the landlord's request and they provided me with an estimate stating it's irreparable and estimated its used value at $750+.

madcow
Mar 20, 2006

Edit: Thanks for answering my query.

madcow fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Oct 9, 2014

chemosh6969
Jul 3, 2004

code:
cat /dev/null > /etc/professionalism

I am in fact a massive asswagon.
Do not let me touch computer.

Venetir posted:

Sorry, I should have included it: I'm in Boise, Idaho, it's a $5000 cap on small claims here, so I'm definitely under that.

The laptop is two years old. A comparable replacement is about $949 at the moment, if that helps any. I took it to Best Buy at the landlord's request and they provided me with an estimate stating it's irreparable and estimated its used value at $750+.

You're not going to get more than the used value.

nern
Oct 29, 2005

RIDE RIDIN LIKE THE DEMON INSIDE YOUR DREAMS
General question about child support tax intercepts. When a return is flagged and intercepted, is the whole return intercepted or just the amount to cover arrears? For example, if a person has a $3000 tax return coming, but has $900 in arrears, do they intercept the $900 and let the rest of the return process normally? Or do they intercept the whole $3000 and apply the $900 and then later release the remaining funds?

I have found alot of information online about how alot of it works, but nothing specifically related to this question.

MORE INFO: no state taxes at issue, federal only. also, taxes filed as a single individual, not remarried.

Hyperbolic
Jun 9, 2003

nern posted:

General question about child support tax intercepts. When a return is flagged and intercepted, is the whole return intercepted or just the amount to cover arrears? For example, if a person has a $3000 tax return coming, but has $900 in arrears, do they intercept the $900 and let the rest of the return process normally? Or do they intercept the whole $3000 and apply the $900 and then later release the remaining funds?

I have found alot of information online about how alot of it works, but nothing specifically related to this question.

MORE INFO: no state taxes at issue, federal only. also, taxes filed as a single individual, not remarried.

They intercept the whole thing, then later release.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Venetir posted:

Sorry, I should have included it: I'm in Boise, Idaho, it's a $5000 cap on small claims here, so I'm definitely under that.
Becuase if you
The laptop is two years old. A comparable replacement is about $949 at the moment, if that helps any. I took it to Best Buy at the landlord's request and they provided me with an estimate stating it's irreparable and estimated its used value at $750+.

I am seriously curious about what 2 year old laptop retailed for $1300 and is worth $750+ now. Because if you'll pay $750 for my 2 year old T410s I'm game.

woozle wuzzle
Mar 10, 2012

madcow posted:

but I have been advised

Then I'd listen to that advice.


Your worry is kinda weird. Companies cannot just make up charges, and by having to file claims your attorney has the opportunity to object to them. And there's a jillion reasons I can think of to wait for claims to be filed, including, but not limited to: getting proper credit so you don't pay a claim twice, paying the correct company in case the debt was sold, record of the exact amount so the creditor can't dispute it later, having all creditors on the table at once so there are no surprises, and lastly the distinct possibility that creditors won't file a timely claim. You have the natural urge to pay a bill as soon as you see it, but listen to your lawyer.

Wotan
Aug 15, 2009

I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
I just received a call from a debt collector. The ID showed up as a friend, say buttface, but it wasn't buttface. It was some jerk who wants money from me.
Is it legal for them to use my contact list like that?

This is on a cell phone in New York.

Wotan fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Jan 19, 2013

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Wotan posted:

I just received a call from a debt collector. The ID showed up as a friend, say buttface, but it wasn't buttface. It was some jerk who wants money from me.
Is it legal for them to use my contact list like that?

This is on a cell phone in New York.

That ... doesn't really sound possible. There's no way for them to access your "contact list" unless they hacked your phone or something.

If they DID get a hold of a friend and are using that to spoof their number then you can probably sue them for at least $1,000 per infraction.

I would check out the debt collectors thread.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3234974

Venetir
May 19, 2009

nm posted:

I am seriously curious about what 2 year old laptop retailed for $1300 and is worth $750+ now. Because if you'll pay $750 for my 2 year old T410s I'm game.

Haha, sounds good. That was the Geek Squad estimate and honestly seems pretty high. I don't personally agree with it but...hey, I won't complain. It's a 17 inch HP Envy with a few upgrades (upgraded video, blu-ray drive, etc).

Predictably, my landlord changed his mind and decided not to follow through with his promise to replace the laptop so I consulted a lawyer today who ran over my documents. While my lease says the landlord isn't liable for property damage, we have e-mails from him acknowledging that he told us the damage would be covered and telling me he would purchase a replacement. The lawyer suggests I go to small claims court and says it's highly unlikely I'll lose. Apparently agreements made after contracts are signed can override the previous contract? Any opinions either way would be awesome. Regardless, I really appreciate everything you guys have done to help me out with my string of recent housing related woes.

woozle wuzzle
Mar 10, 2012
I'm quick to pee on a small claims parade, but yours sounds decent enough to try. I would not be super duper optimistic, but it's definitely worth a shot. If the opportunity presents itself to settle for like $500, take it. Several things are tilting your way (like having sewage blasted into your living space), but there's no sure thing. The best way to mentally prepare is be braced to lose, happily surprised to win.

It's not about amending a contract, but the email creates a new one. He says "I will pay for your laptop, in return stay put and don't go crazynuts", you agree. You're suing for him breaching that agreement on which you relied, causing you to not have a laptop for exams and to miss out on entire days of porn.

Choadmaster
Oct 7, 2004

I don't care how snug they fit, you're nuts!

nm posted:

I am seriously curious about what 2 year old laptop retailed for $1300 and is worth $750+ now. Because if you'll pay $750 for my 2 year old T410s I'm game.

Fwiw this wouldn't be even remotely unusual for a MacBook.

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan

Choadmaster posted:

Fwiw this wouldn't be even remotely unusual for a MacBook.

For real, dude, our lab just shelled out like 2 grand for a "run-of-the-mill" version.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Choadmaster posted:

Fwiw this wouldn't be even remotely unusual for a MacBook.

It isn't "worth" $750. Mac people will pay $750 for it, perhaps.
Though I doubt it retailed new for $1300 either.

Choadmaster
Oct 7, 2004

I don't care how snug they fit, you're nuts!

nm posted:

Though I doubt it retailed new for $1300 either.

MacBooks retail anywhere between $1000 to $2800+. A 13" MacBook Pro from 2010 had a $1200 MSRP and they seem to be selling between $600 and $800 right now (2.75 years later).


nm posted:

It isn't "worth" $750. Mac people will pay $750 for it, perhaps.

I'm pretty sure something's monetary worth is in fact based on the market price, not "how much nm thinks you should pay for this thing."

But this has turned into a derail and I'll drop it here.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
It's an HP Envy. It's basically the PC design equivalent to the macbook and is going to be priced accordingly.

Spacemonkey57
Dec 1, 2004
I bought a condo in Chicago, Illinois with an 80/20 mortgage (I know) in 2007. Obviously the market has gone to hell and now I'd need something like $80K out of pocket to sell it. I tried to do a short sale and was approved on the first but the second lienholder is a private investor and denied my claim, they wanted $27K more than the first lienholder approved for the short sale. The first lienholder is Fannie Mae and will not budge from their offer. I am current on the mortgage, which might be part of the reason that I was denied.

I decided to rent it out, but my condo board approved a rental cap about two weeks after this happened. I applied for a hardship, but I don't know if they need to approve it.

I had a couple of crappy years at my job and decided that I'd never be able to afford to buy a place big enough for my family in Chicago, so I decided to explore moving to Michigan. I found a job that pays much better than my old job in Chicago. I accepted the job and we have been living with family while we were trying the short sale, we've been here about seven months.

The condo in Chicago is too small to live in and I have a job in Michigan now. If the board does not approve my hardship I'm going to have to stop paying and hope they'll approve a short sale. If they still won't approve a short sale I'm going to have to let it go to foreclosure.

My real estate lawyer in Chicago told me that I need to consult a collections attorney in Michigan to see what the second mortgage holder would be able to come after me for if it goes into foreclosure. I want to know general questions like what will happen to me in foreclosure and will they be able to garnish my wages or come after my retirement accounts.

My questions are Is a collections attorney what I need? Also, are there any options that I am missing other than move back to Chicago or walk away?

woozle wuzzle
Mar 10, 2012
I'm not in Michigan or Illinois, but generally you'd be on the hook for the entire deficiency of the mortgage (the remaining debt after the proceeds of a foreclosure sale are applied). Your options to prevent foreclosure aren't fantastic: deed in lieu (signing the deed back over to the creditors requiring their approval, which the 2nd will reject), short sale (which the 2nd has rejected), refinancing the whole shebang, keeping it somehow current, bankruptcy, or letting it go and see what happens.

In the event you owe a deficiency after a foreclosure, nothing happens automatically. First a creditor has to get a judgment against you, and that takes time and you see it coming. With a judgment in hand, they can then enforce the judgment by methods like garnishment. State law protects much of your property from creditor collections, and I'm too lazy to google but I'd bet fifty cents that your retirement accounts are protected. Wages and bank accounts are the juicy targets, but not guaranteed as creditors have to know where you work. Your options to deal with the debt include talking with the creditor's attorney to negotiate payments, letting it go and seeing if they find you, bankruptcy, etc.

You need to speak with an attorney to know exactly how foreclosure and collections works for you. A big issue is your recent change in residency (you did nothing wrong, just it's a legal wrinkle), and having an attorney that can negotiate that difference. For example, some states have residency requirements of 2 years before state exemptions apply to creditors. So Illinois, Michigan, or federal laws could apply and you need clear answers. Be wary because there are great attorneys in debt relief, then there are shitbags who gouge desperate people in debt. Just be mindful and ready to get 2nd opinions if you sense you're not getting experienced answers. The attorney you want might advertise in foreclosure assistance or debt relief.

woozle wuzzle fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Jan 22, 2013

visuvius
Sep 24, 2007
sta da moor
I need some advice on this lingering issue that remains from my divorce. Its a weird situation.

My divorce from my ex-wife was finalized early January of 2012. As part of the judgement, I agreed to transfer to her the entirety of my IRA account which was being managed by Fidelity. I actually had a 401k and a rollover IRA. In order to speed up the process and avoid paying some third party firm around $1500 to do an analysis of the accounts, per my lawyers advice, I decided to just give her the whole IRA account which at the time had approximately $25k.

My problem is that I have been unable to get her to take this money. She obviously has the final judgement order and was involved with the process so its not some hidden fact that the IRA money is supposed to go to her. Before the divorce had been finalized, I initiated the process of transferring the money. I talked to people at Fidelity and a financial adviser and got everything lined up to transfer the account to her. This included sending her a lengthy email outlining exactly the steps she needed to take to receive the money. I actually sent her two such emails because the first was ignored. The steps including her opening a specific account with Fidelity and signing a very specifically worded "letter of acceptance". I even provided the applications and the actual letter of acceptance, all she had to do was sign it and send it to Fidelity. My emails and instructions were mostly ignored.

For my part, I have all the emails I sent her as well as my letter of instruction to Fidelity asking them to transfer the money. I even specifically requested a "receipt" from Fidelity which states that yes they received my letter of instruction to transfer the funds.

I have not heard from her in more than a year and the money continues to sit in my IRA account. We did not part on good terms and while the divorce was going on, she did everything she could to take as much as possible so I simply don't understand why she is not moving on this remaining money. All the alimony that was due to her has been paid long ago and this is the only lingering issue from that divorce.

My fear is that in 9 years, I will get a letter saying she is suing me for the money and 10 years of interest. Again, we did not part on good terms and at the time of the divorce she did some crazy poo poo (vandalism, stole all our shared poo poo, threatening emails, etc.)

I know the easiest route is to just email her but I honestly really don't feel like doing that. After all the bullshit I've been through with her and all the work and hours I've already spent on this, I don't feel like chasing her down. I don't even have her contact info any more.

Basically, what should I do? Is my fear above legitimate or am I being paranoid? Is there any way to go to the county court and somehow like, deposit all the forums I have as proof that I did my part? Help. Thanks ahead.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

visuvius posted:

I need some advice on this lingering issue that remains from my divorce. Its a weird situation.

The tl;dr version of your question appears to be 'What is the statute of limitations on domestic court settlements?'

A quick google search produces an answer of 'ten years'. Provide your State and someone from the US can probably give you a better answer.


e: more informative answer - document all evidence of you performing your due diligence to transfer the fund. Put it in a box and write a date on the box ten years to the date of your divorce settlement. Put the box somewhere safe.

In ten years time if you haven't needed to open that box then buy yourself a big bottle of champagne and enjoy your windfall.

Alchenar fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Jan 23, 2013

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong

Look up if your state has any sort of interpleader statute and what the prereqs are. Generally interpleader is for instances where there is a contested piece of property, and the party who has control of it doesn't want to deal with the parties making a claim (generally, for example, if there is an insurance policy, and two or more people are making claims against it for an amount that exceeds the amount of policy, the insurance company can just dump the full amount on the court, give notice to the affected parties, and have the parties litigate over it while the insurance company washes its hands.) Doesn't fit your situation perfectly, but it might help to look into just in case.

visuvius
Sep 24, 2007
sta da moor

Alchenar posted:

The tl;dr version of your question appears to be 'What is the statute of limitations on domestic court settlements?'

A quick google search produces an answer of 'ten years'. Provide your State and someone from the US can probably give you a better answer.


e: more informative answer - document all evidence of you performing your due diligence to transfer the fund. Put it in a box and write a date on the box ten years to the date of your divorce settlement. Put the box somewhere safe.

In ten years time if you haven't needed to open that box then buy yourself a big bottle of champagne and enjoy your windfall.

Thanks for the reply. I mean yeah I already knew it was 10 years, thats why I pointed out my fear of her hitting me up for 10 years of interest on the judgement.

That due dilligence thing is what I needed some backup on. That if I just keep all the documentation, I should be able to defend myself down the road. Also, I was wondering if there is a formal process of giving the court this documentation so they know I did my part.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
I got a citation in the mail for overtaking a school bus, which no I didn't, and it's a loving $350 fine and 60 days suspended license so I would have fought it even if I had done that. So I pled not guilty and my court date's coming up. I live in Pennsylvania. A few questions:

I know if my accuser doesn't show up, I win automatically. Who's my accuser here, the bus driver? The cop? Both of them?

Assuming they show up, what's the effective burden of proof? Traffic court tends to be "that guy said you did", but I think "prove that was me driving the car" seems strong, seeing as how I was never pulled over, the bus driver just radioed in a report and they mailed me a ticket a few days later. Could it work? Could anything, or if the people show up, am I automatically guilty?

If I'm hosed, is there some plea bargain I could concievably strike? I can live with the fine but two months without driving is going to severely gently caress me what with having a job and everything.

Is it worth the cost to just suck it up and hire a goddamn lawyer?

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong

CapnAndy posted:

I got a citation in the mail for overtaking a school bus, which no I didn't, and it's a loving $350 fine and 60 days suspended license so I would have fought it even if I had done that. So I pled not guilty and my court date's coming up. I live in Pennsylvania. A few questions:

I know if my accuser doesn't show up, I win automatically. Who's my accuser here, the bus driver? The cop? Both of them?

Assuming they show up, what's the effective burden of proof? Traffic court tends to be "that guy said you did", but I think "prove that was me driving the car" seems strong, seeing as how I was never pulled over, the bus driver just radioed in a report and they mailed me a ticket a few days later. Could it work? Could anything, or if the people show up, am I automatically guilty?

If I'm hosed, is there some plea bargain I could concievably strike? I can live with the fine but two months without driving is going to severely gently caress me what with having a job and everything.

Is it worth the cost to just suck it up and hire a goddamn lawyer?

The bus driver and cop will most likely be there. From the statute, the cop looks more or less like a rubber stamp. You will want to see the written report of the bus driver. You will probably want an attorney if it's that big of a deal to you.

§ 3345. Meeting or overtaking school bus.
(a) Duty of approaching driver when red signals are flashing.--Except as provided in subsection (g), the driver of a vehicle meeting or overtaking any school bus stopped on a highway or trafficway shall stop at least ten feet before reaching the school bus when the red signal lights on the school bus are flashing and the side stop signal arms are activated under section 4552(b.1) (relating to general requirements for school buses). The driver shall not proceed until the flashing red signal lights are no longer actuated. In no event shall a driver of a vehicle resume motion of the vehicle until the school children who may have alighted from the school bus have reached a place of safety. The driver of a vehicle approaching an intersection at which a school bus is stopped shall stop his vehicle at that intersection until the flashing red signal lights are no longer actuated.
(a.1) Reports by school bus operators.--
(1) The operator of a school bus who observes a violation of subsection (a) may prepare a signed, written report which indicates that a violation has occurred. To the extent possible, the report shall include the following information:
(i) Information, if any, pertaining to the identity of the alleged violator.
(ii) The license number and color of the vehicle involved in the violation.
(iii) The time and approximate location at which the violation occurred.
(iv) Identification of the vehicle as an automobile, station wagon, motor truck, motor bus, motorcycle or other type of vehicle.
(2) Within 48 hours after the violation occurs, the school bus operator shall deliver a copy of the report to a police officer having authority to exercise police power in the area where the violation occurred. If the police officer believes that the report establishes a sufficient basis for the issuance of a citation, the officer shall file a citation and the report with the issuing authority. If the issuing authority determines that the report and citation establish a sufficient basis for the issuance of a summons, a summons shall be issued in accordance with general rules governing the institution of proceedings in summary traffic offense cases. The issuing authority shall send the defendant a copy of the citation, together with a statement that it was filed by the police officer named in the citation on the basis of information received.
(3) A person may institute a proceeding pursuant to this subsection or in accordance with any means authorized by the Rules of Criminal Procedure.

Robot Arms
Sep 19, 2008

R!

woozle wuzzle posted:

There's no legal claim... it's a private reference. They could say you wore the wrong style of pants and therefore they cannot recommend you as a tenant.

Actually, this sort of reference may be governed by consumer credit reporting laws like the FCRA and state equivalents.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe
I live in Washington state. Around Thanksgiving weekend or so I ordered a dishwasher online from a company based in New York. It arrived shortly before Christmas, and due to travel, illness and work I'm just now having a chance to do anything with the thing. It suffered some minor damage in shipment. I contacted the Whirlpool to get some replacement parts, but when the customer service rep asked me to read off the model and serial numbers, there was no label in the location she described. There is a similar label on the door, but the rep insisted that the model number shown there was incomplete, and that the time code that was in place of a s/n was not consistent with the s/n format for their products. She also that it would never ever be put on the door, since it's a replaceable part--it is always put on the body. I then contacted the vendor who basically said the lady from Whirlpool didn't know what she was talking about, and of course that was the serial number, and they're put on the door all the time. I've since gone to Lowe's and taken a look at their display models, and their labels were exactly where the lady from Whirlpool said they should be. It was very similar to my label, but not the same.

I'm concerned that I've been sold either a non-genuine item or a factory reject or something like that. Whirlpool's call center was closed when I got home from work, so I'll have to try again tomorrow to see if this is possible. I have a feeling I'm going to end up doing a chargeback on this purchase, but do I need to report this to my state's Attorney General's office, or maybe some other agency? Of which state? I don't think I'll have any problems getting it sorted out for myself, but if this company is doing something shady I feel like I should inform the appropriate people.

Elector_Nerdlingen
Sep 27, 2004



stubblyhead posted:

I live in Washington state. Around Thanksgiving weekend or so I ordered a dishwasher online from a company based in New York. It arrived shortly before Christmas, and due to travel, illness and work I'm just now having a chance to do anything with the thing. It suffered some minor damage in shipment. I contacted the Whirlpool to get some replacement parts, but when the customer service rep asked me to read off the model and serial numbers, there was no label in the location she described. There is a similar label on the door, but the rep insisted that the model number shown there was incomplete, and that the time code that was in place of a s/n was not consistent with the s/n format for their products. She also that it would never ever be put on the door, since it's a replaceable part--it is always put on the body. I then contacted the vendor who basically said the lady from Whirlpool didn't know what she was talking about, and of course that was the serial number, and they're put on the door all the time. I've since gone to Lowe's and taken a look at their display models, and their labels were exactly where the lady from Whirlpool said they should be. It was very similar to my label, but not the same.

I'm concerned that I've been sold either a non-genuine item or a factory reject or something like that. Whirlpool's call center was closed when I got home from work, so I'll have to try again tomorrow to see if this is possible. I have a feeling I'm going to end up doing a chargeback on this purchase, but do I need to report this to my state's Attorney General's office, or maybe some other agency? Of which state? I don't think I'll have any problems getting it sorted out for myself, but if this company is doing something shady I feel like I should inform the appropriate people.

Wow, that's a step beyond knockoff xbox controllers on ebay :stare: Counterfeit stuff and rejects sold as new just really fascinate me on some level, so if you could let me know somehow how it works out for you, I'd really appreciate it.

I'm not American, and I'm certainly not a lawyer, but isn't the Department of Homeland Security the place that deals with counterfeit goods? It's been in the newspapers here in Australia that the US DHS is taking down websites that are selling knockoffs.

jassi007
Aug 9, 2006

mmmmm.. burger...

stubblyhead posted:

I live in Washington state. Around Thanksgiving weekend or so I ordered a dishwasher online from a company based in New York. It arrived shortly before Christmas, and due to travel, illness and work I'm just now having a chance to do anything with the thing. It suffered some minor damage in shipment. I contacted the Whirlpool to get some replacement parts, but when the customer service rep asked me to read off the model and serial numbers, there was no label in the location she described. There is a similar label on the door, but the rep insisted that the model number shown there was incomplete, and that the time code that was in place of a s/n was not consistent with the s/n format for their products. She also that it would never ever be put on the door, since it's a replaceable part--it is always put on the body. I then contacted the vendor who basically said the lady from Whirlpool didn't know what she was talking about, and of course that was the serial number, and they're put on the door all the time. I've since gone to Lowe's and taken a look at their display models, and their labels were exactly where the lady from Whirlpool said they should be. It was very similar to my label, but not the same.

I'm concerned that I've been sold either a non-genuine item or a factory reject or something like that. Whirlpool's call center was closed when I got home from work, so I'll have to try again tomorrow to see if this is possible. I have a feeling I'm going to end up doing a chargeback on this purchase, but do I need to report this to my state's Attorney General's office, or maybe some other agency? Of which state? I don't think I'll have any problems getting it sorted out for myself, but if this company is doing something shady I feel like I should inform the appropriate people.

IANAL but maybe start here? http://access.wa.gov/topics/consumerprotection and/or here? http://www.dos.ny.gov/consumerprotection/

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

AlphaDog posted:

Wow, that's a step beyond knockoff xbox controllers on ebay :stare: Counterfeit stuff and rejects sold as new just really fascinate me on some level, so if you could let me know somehow how it works out for you, I'd really appreciate it.

It appears that Whirlpool doesn't know their rear end from their elbows. I called back this morning, and that time code is in fact a valid serial number for that model dishwasher. It is a new model apparently, which might explain why the first person I talked to was confused. Still no explanation on why the tag would not be in the normal location however, and the best part is that they don't have a parts list for this model yet, so I can't even get the loving things I need. I still haven't decided how to handle this, but since I can't install the thing without the parts, I'm effectively getting hosed out of part of my warranty through no fault of my own. I'm inclined to return the thing and buy another one locally, but their return policy kind of sucks so I may need to get my credit card involved anyway. I don't think this is a legal matter anymore though, but thanks for listening!

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong

stubblyhead posted:

It appears that Whirlpool doesn't know their rear end from their elbows. I called back this morning, and that time code is in fact a valid serial number for that model dishwasher. It is a new model apparently, which might explain why the first person I talked to was confused. Still no explanation on why the tag would not be in the normal location however, and the best part is that they don't have a parts list for this model yet, so I can't even get the loving things I need. I still haven't decided how to handle this, but since I can't install the thing without the parts, I'm effectively getting hosed out of part of my warranty through no fault of my own. I'm inclined to return the thing and buy another one locally, but their return policy kind of sucks so I may need to get my credit card involved anyway. I don't think this is a legal matter anymore though, but thanks for listening!

Check your state's lemon laws. If they are as poorly written as my state's (CA) you can return basically anything you ever buy ever if you complain enough.

Ruggan
Feb 20, 2007
WHAT THAT SMELL LIKE?!


AreYouIn posted:

This thread is not very helpful for evaluating whether you have a legal claim or not, although the law goons have done some of this in the past.

With the caveat that I understand this is the case, can someone tell me how good of a lawsuit there is here? I'm not directly involved, but I'm super curious. For reference, this is in Wisconsin.

Backstory: One of my co-workers applied for a school's head football coach job as a joke, and at the instructions of the application, noted that he wanted it to be kept confidential. He has an email receipt containing proof of this. Turns out that a top sports website got a hold of these applications, claiming that they're only listing the ones that they were able to get a hold of due to the applicant not requesting confidentiality, but aforementioned co-worker's application was included. The article slammed the applicants listed as hilarious with no chance in hell of being hired. He's somewhat concerned about his reputation, as during the day or so it's been published, our entire company has found out (to hilarious effect), people have tweeted about him, his LinkedIn has exploded, and Fox Sports news has called both him and his mother to request an interview. Is this a clear-cut libel suit / confidentiality breach? What does he potentially have to gain if he wins? He has not spoken to any news sources regarding this and plans to speak with a lawyer, but I'm curious what you guys think.

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
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Ruggan posted:

With the caveat that I understand this is the case, can someone tell me how good of a lawsuit there is here? I'm not directly involved, but I'm super curious. For reference, this is in Wisconsin.

Backstory: One of my co-workers applied for a school's head football coach job as a joke, and at the instructions of the application, noted that he wanted it to be kept confidential. He has an email receipt containing proof of this. Turns out that a top sports website got a hold of these applications, claiming that they're only listing the ones that they were able to get a hold of due to the applicant not requesting confidentiality, but aforementioned co-worker's application was included. He's somewhat concerned about his reputation, as during the day or so it's been published, our entire company has found out (to hilarious effect), people have tweeted about him, his LinkedIn has exploded, and Fox Sports news has called both him and his mother to request an interview. Is this a clear-cut libel suit / confidentiality breach? What does he potentially have to gain if he wins? He has not spoken to any news sources regarding this and plans to speak with a lawyer, but I'm curious what you guys think.

Not libel, because the written thing has to be false. Truth is an absolute defense. Probably closer to a breach of confidentiality, or privacy laws depending on the state.

Arcturas
Mar 30, 2011

Yeah, it's exceedingly unlikely that he has anything resembling a real legal claim (truth as a defense, etc.), plus I'm not sure how applying to coach Wisconsin's team is a joke unless he lets someone know about it. In which case they'll claim his disclosures to his friends destroyed his expectations of privacy. If he's really concerned, have him contact an actual lawyer, but he's looking at an uphill struggle.

Bro Enlai
Nov 9, 2008

On top of that, I'm not really sure what the damages would be. I'm sure they theoretically exist, but it'll probably be annoying to prove them. There's also the Streisand effect to consider--any sort of legal action might call even more undesired attention to him.

Best bet is probably to have him parlay his 15 seconds of fame into a cheap endorsement, e.g. "I may not be qualified to coach the Wisconsin Sportsfaces, but even I know that the Home Shopping Network Egg Juicer Super XL is a great value for your home, kitchen, and car"

woozle wuzzle
Mar 10, 2012

Bro Enlai posted:

Best bet is probably to have him parlay his 15 seconds of fame into a cheap endorsement, e.g. "I may not be qualified to coach the Wisconsin Sportsfaces, but even I know that the Home Shopping Network Egg Juicer Super XL is a great value for your home, kitchen, and car"

That's my thought too, he should just run with it. He should hook up with some sports drink to pay him $1000 to wear their hat & t-shirt during an interview.

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TotallyGreen
Jun 30, 2002

REMIND ME AGAIN, HOW
THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED
ONES MOVE.
nevermind. better not to post about it on the internet.

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