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Mr Interweb posted:Neil Cavuto knows why so many people are on food stamps: cause it's just too cool NOT to be on them! I know I turn to Fox News for the latest news on what's cool and what's not cool. I'm mildly surprised they haven't come out and called for the revival of workhouses at this point, dignity through work' and all that poo poo. Plus they get to label anyone who doesn't want to become an indentured servant a filthy no-good skiver and leave them to die on the street!
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Mr Interweb posted:Neil Cavuto knows why so many people are on food stamps: cause it's just too cool NOT to be on them! Ugh, so disgusting that they get their token minority to be their mouthpiece too, like that wasn't completely intentional and calculated. Dogwhistle? What is that? An Asian woman said it so it can't be racist!
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Dr Christmas posted:Pretending that Obama's proposed policies, or anything suggested by any other gun control advocate, resembles anything done in Nazi Germany is revising history. While the Nazis did place restrictions on the people they were oppressing, they removed restrictions on others. The stuff early in Obamas first term, with Glenn Beck talking about how Hitler used UHC to execute the disabled, was even more egregious. Also making it somehow acceptable for people to seriously say that Nazi Germany was a leftist socialist state. I mean gently caress communists were right up there with Jews as people Hitler despised and had killed.
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swampland posted:Also making it somehow acceptable for people to seriously say that Nazi Germany was a leftist socialist state. I mean gently caress communists were right up there with Jews as people Hitler despised and had killed. Literally the first verse is "First they came for the communists", then socialists, then trade unionists. Jews and Catholics weren't even mentioned in the original text.
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Mr Interweb posted:Neil Cavuto knows why so many people are on food stamps: cause it's just too cool NOT to be on them! Holy poo poo the sheer amount of  in that video makes me wanna strangle a puppy. Dammit.
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Jan 21, 2013 04:01
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Crameltonian posted:I know I turn to Fox News for the latest news on what's cool and what's not cool. I'm mildly surprised they haven't come out and called for the revival of workhouses at this point, dignity through work' and all that poo poo. Plus they get to label anyone who doesn't want to become an indentured servant a filthy no-good skiver and leave them to die on the street! Victorian-style workhouses would actually be a step up for the legions of homeless folks who can't find work.
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Jan 21, 2013 05:17
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swampland posted:Also making it somehow acceptable for people to seriously say that Nazi Germany was a leftist socialist state. I mean gently caress communists were right up there with Jews as people Hitler despised and had killed. Also, because corporate-statism is difficult for most people to understand and the nature of the Nazi state isn't really explored in any depth in middle or high school history classes.
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Jan 21, 2013 05:34
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swampland posted:Also making it somehow acceptable for people to seriously say that Nazi Germany was a leftist socialist state. I mean gently caress communists were right up there with Jews as people Hitler despised and had killed. This is partly schools fault. In text book it always talks about his jewish policy but omits or just mentions in passing his policy towards communist, homosexuals, and Roma. God the Roma had it bad then and continue to have it bad now. No one in Europe likes them.
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You liberals are the most idiotic people on Earth. Don't you even know what the word "Nazi" is an abbreviation of? That's right. National Socialist. I think I've made my point.
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bobkatt013 posted:This is partly schools fault. In text book it always talks about his jewish policy but omits or just mentions in passing his policy towards communist, homosexuals, and Roma. God the Roma had it bad then and continue to have it bad now. No one in Europe likes them. You have no idea, I know people here in the States that go on about how much they hate "filthy gypsies" and how their all criminals. Its pretty horrifying. And these aren't your Freep type, they're more of your standard Democrat.
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KomradeX posted:You have no idea, I know people here in the States that go on about how much they hate "filthy gypsies" and how their all criminals. Its pretty horrifying. And these aren't your Freep type, they're more of your standard Democrat. I do have an idea. I was in Bulgaria for a while and they fucken hate Roma. I was talking with a women who was really nice and we passed some Roma kids and she went off on how they were "bad people" and how they were destroying the country. Then just yesterday someone tried to kill one of their leaders. It is fucken insane.
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Wow. well I apologize for my poor turn of phrasing. Jesus after all that happened in the 20th century how can people still go on about this sort of this?
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the2ndgenesis posted:You liberals are the most idiotic people on Earth. Don't you even know what the word "Nazi" is an abbreviation of? Yup, it's obvious just like how everyone knows that the Democratic Republic of Congo is the most democratic nation on earth.
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KomradeX posted:Wow. well I apologize for my poor turn of phrasing. Jesus after all that happened in the 20th century how can people still go on about this sort of this? No problem it is just something that is completely insane and really not talked about. Roma are some of the most marginalized group of people on the planet and it is a mixture of their desire to keep their own culture, people not sure what to do with them, and people being racist shitheads.
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swampland posted:Yup, it's obvious just like how everyone knows that the Democratic Republic of Congo is the most democratic nation on earth.
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bobkatt013 posted:Then just yesterday someone tried to kill one of their leaders. It is fucken insane. That guy was a Bulgarian Turk, his would-be assassin was also a Turk. The Slavs aren't crazy about them either but for completely different reasons.
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TheIllestVillain posted:That guy was a Bulgarian Turk, his would-be assassin was also a Turk. Oh ya that is right. In Bulgaria there are three major groups. The Turkish Muslims, Roma, and "Ethnic Bulgarians". The "Bulgarians" hate the Turks and the Roma, the Turks hate the "Bulgarians", and they both hate the Roma. Its such a nice place over there.
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Jan 21, 2013 07:58
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KomradeX posted:You have no idea, I know people here in the States that go on about how much they hate "filthy gypsies" and how their all criminals. Its pretty horrifying. And these aren't your Freep type, they're more of your standard Democrat. Who on earth do you hang out with to hear that in the USA? I've never run into anybody that hates gypsies in the States in all my life. Most Americans don't even know who or what they are really. It's just not on our event horizon here.
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KomradeX posted:You have no idea, I know people here in the States that go on about how much they hate "filthy gypsies" and how their all criminals. Its pretty horrifying. And these aren't your Freep type, they're more of your standard Democrat. Where do you live in the US to know multiple people who come into enough regular contact with "gypsies" to have vocal opinions about them?
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Where do you live in the US to know multiple people who come into enough regular contact with "gypsies" to have vocal opinions about them? Americans love to pick up on racism and bigotries from other parts of the world. Hell, sometimes we even import it, as when anti-ginger bullying suddenly became a thing in the US after that South Park episode aired.
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It seems like most Americans who are aware of them at all would tend to equate the Roma with our "carnies". Nomadic entertainers, lots of fun to have in your town for a week, but the welcome wears out quickly and then they're on their way somewhere else. Most neighborhoods would not want them setting up shop permanently. I realize this is incredibly demeaning to Roma culture, but it's the closest analogue I can think of that most Americans would be familiar with.
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Pope Guilty posted:Americans love to pick up on racism and bigotries from other parts of the world. Hell, sometimes we even import it, as when anti-ginger bullying suddenly became a thing in the US after that South Park episode aired. Do not feed. Do not feed. Just keep walking.
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SnakePlissken posted:Do not feed. Do not feed. Just keep walking. I'm neither trolling nor joking.
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Pope Guilty posted:Americans love to pick up on racism and bigotries from other parts of the world. Hell, sometimes we even import it, as when anti-ginger bullying suddenly became a thing in the US after that South Park episode aired. From what I have experienced living in the US my entire life, we have plenty enough racism and bigotry to keep people occupied without having to hate groups that don't even really exist in this country. I was just curious if maybe there was a region of the US that I have never heard of that actually has a gypsy population that would explain how someone knows multiple people who complain about gypsies. Like I can't even imagine an American unironically saying "filthy gypsies" because how would they have the exposure to even have that opinion? It's like an American saying how much he hates Aboriginals. Based on what? Also I'm pretty sure anti-ginger bullying always existed, South Park just gave people new insults to use. Plus, you know, there are actual American gingers. Fake edit: And I just noticed the post right before mine for the first time, so I'm not the only one who found the statement bizarre.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:I was just curious if maybe there was a region of the US that I have never heard of that actually has a gypsy population that would explain how someone knows multiple people who complain about gypsies. Like I can't even imagine an American unironically saying "filthy gypsies" because how would they have the exposure to even have that opinion? It's like an American saying how much he hates Aboriginals. Anywhere there's upper-middle class whites who've vacationed in Europe. Hell, even my god damned mom has a "gypsy pickpocket!" story.
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Southpark got australians using jew as an unsult. I think there's like seven jewish people in australia.
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Ah Pook posted:Anywhere there's upper-middle class whites who've vacationed in Europe. Hell, even my god damned mom has a "gypsy pickpocket!" story. This is pretty much it. I've a few friends who've traveled in Western Europe, mostly the UK and Italy, and they weren't even victimized by "Gypsies" and sort of the rest of the friend group picked up on the bandwagon while I look on in horror. The worst part I found were the friends who haven't been to Europe picking up on the hate, while I have to point out these are things Nazis said, and its just crushing. Even more so is the fact these are people who view themselves as nominally left and its just awful.
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swampland posted:Yup, it's obvious just like how everyone knows that the Democratic Republic of Congo is the most democratic nation on earth. Are you imply that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is, in fact, not entirely democratic? 
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Crameltonian posted:I know I turn to Fox News for the latest news on what's cool and what's not cool. I'm mildly surprised they haven't come out and called for the revival of workhouses at this point, dignity through work' and all that poo poo. Plus they get to label anyone who doesn't want to become an indentured servant a filthy no-good skiver and leave them to die on the street! Yes, conservatives totally know what's 'hip' and 'cool.' Here is my badly drawn rough approximation of how modern conservatives see the 'hip kids' in 2013:  katlington posted:Southpark got australians using jew as an unsult. I think there's like seven jewish people in australia. The kind of people who Cartman is meant to make fun of are the same kind of people who would imitate his behavior. (Stupid ignorant assholes.) Spacedad fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jan 21, 2013 |
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swampland posted:Also making it somehow acceptable for people to seriously say that Nazi Germany was a leftist socialist state. I mean gently caress communists were right up there with Jews as people Hitler despised and had killed. They've been pushing that meme since Obama got elected, especially Beck with his dumb chalkboards and poo poo, assuming both that Obama is a Socialist and that the Nazi's were leftist because they were called the National Socialist Party or something like that. Therefore Obama is like Hitler.
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Spacedad posted:Yes, conservatives totally know what's 'hip' and 'cool.' Is that supposed to be a vulva on that woman's face or do I need a Freudian shrink badly?
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Spacedad posted:Yes, conservatives totally know what's 'hip' and 'cool.' We actually have one of those already 
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Good Citizen posted:We actually have one of those already I agree Ramirez, parents should do more for their children, like unsubscribe from the newspapers that pay you anything.
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If you tax the millionaires, there'll be no more millionaires! 
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BiggerBoat posted:They've been pushing that meme since Obama got elected, especially Beck with his dumb chalkboards and poo poo, assuming both that Obama is a Socialist and that the Nazi's were leftist because they were called the National Socialist Party or something like that. Therefore Obama is like Hitler. These are the same people who think the Democrats of the 1930s and 40s are the same Democrats now.
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I don't get how he got to 62%, top federal rate is 39% and top California rate is 10.3%. His fica tax rate is some infinitesimal amount of his income. Even if you forget we have a progressive tax system and that state income taxes are deductible, that's 49.3%. Unless winnings from sporting events are taxed differently?
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Spacedad posted:
You could argue that most people completely forgot that Cartman was meant to make fun of certain attitudes and has become beloved by those same people _because_ of them. Matt and Trey might be included in that same group, in fact.
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eggsovereasy posted:Unless winnings from sporting events are taxed differently? They are (or, rather, on the state level nexus is created by playing in a certain jurisdiction, leading to multiple state and local taxings).
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What a great followup question. I can't remember the last time I saw something like that asked.\ ThirdPartyView posted:They are (or, rather, on the state level nexus is created by playing in a certain jurisdiction, leading to multiple state and local taxings). Yep, people that play sports requiring playing in multiple states leads to some really inconvenient tax issues. Musicians have similar problems, but unless you tour every years it's not as bad. I can see why the feds would want to find a way to streamline it if possible, that current model is a bit of a headache. edit That's also the first wiki entry I can think of that used an exclamation point. wiki posted:The jock tax also violates the concept of "no taxation without representation". The taxpayer has no right to vote for representatives that would represent his/her interests with respect to being taxed. So this isn't a new complaint, but couldn't it be said that I should be able to vote in a state after passing through and paying sales tax at a gas station or something? Also, these arguments are a bit absurd as long as we continue to not allow the people living in DC to have representation. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jan 21, 2013 |
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Good Citizen posted:We actually have one of those already NWA Hat lol
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