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Joementum posted:Hillary Clinton for President has paid off all its debt and has a $240,000 surplus. Speaking of Hillary Clinton for President, whats up with http://www.hillaryis44.org ? It's like reading a crazyass rightwing site. I mean, isn't the whole idea of supporting Clinton is also supporting Clinton's party?
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Jan 23, 2013 01:52
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Buckwheat Sings posted:Speaking of Hillary Clinton for President, whats up with http://www.hillaryis44.org ? It's like reading a crazyass rightwing site. I mean, isn't the whole idea of supporting Clinton is also supporting Clinton's party? Do you remember the PUMAs of 2008?
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Jan 23, 2013 01:54
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SerSpook posted:Do you remember the PUMAs of 2008? Oh yeah. I just assumed they would've joined back into the party since Clinton became apart of the administration. It's just weird since the site holds so much bitter even after all these years and agrees with Republican ideals if it's involved in an attack against Obama.
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Jan 23, 2013 01:58
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I believe the HI44 founder was a big Perot supporter or something other than a loyal Dem who really really loved Hillary.
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Jan 23, 2013 02:01
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I like their inexplicable frontpage article about One Direction that calls Elvis gay.
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Jan 23, 2013 02:03
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SerSpook posted:Do you remember the PUMAs of 2008? Was there anything to that beyond James "Cajun Style" Carville wearing colorful sneakers on newschat shows?
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Jan 23, 2013 02:09
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watt par posted:Was there anything to that beyond James "Cajun Style" Carville wearing colorful sneakers on newschat shows? I seem to remember some Republican attempts at astro-turfing, but I may have imagined it.
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Jan 23, 2013 02:12
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Lucky, all I can remember is the breathless media coverage of the PUMAs long after the point where it was obvious Obama had won the primary.
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Jan 23, 2013 02:15
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serewit posted:Lucky, all I can remember is the breathless media coverage of the PUMAs long after the point where it was obvious Obama had won the primary.
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Jan 23, 2013 02:19
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SerSpook posted:I seem to remember some Republican attempts at astro-turfing, but I may have imagined it. No Rush pushed for republicans in open primaries to vote for Hilary.
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Jan 23, 2013 03:10
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Although I admit I wasn't following too closely during primary 2008, I remember a few stories talking about Biden's plagiarism issues being a big roadblock to the Presidency. Was this a valid concern and will it even matter to primary voters in 2016?
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Jan 23, 2013 03:43
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menino posted:Although I admit I wasn't following too closely during primary 2008, I remember a few stories talking about Biden's plagiarism issues being a big roadblock to the Presidency. Was this a valid concern and will it even matter to primary voters in 2016? I hadn't heard about it before, and so I wiki'd it. It seems that it was a real roadblock back in the 1988 race, where he was a little inconsistent in his references, but apparently he was cleared of all charges as a lawyer by the Delaware Supreme Court, and the thing hasn't resurfaced. I expect he's learned how to cite properly at this point, and that he's got a good talking point about it. I'd think that it wouldn't be a campaign issue since it's already thoroughly in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#1988_presidential_campaign
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Jan 23, 2013 03:50
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menino posted:Although I admit I wasn't following too closely during primary 2008, I remember a few stories talking about Biden's plagiarism issues being a big roadblock to the Presidency. Was this a valid concern and will it even matter to primary voters in 2016? Not even a little bit. He had actually cited the portion he allegedly plagiarized in the past - he failed to do it once and got beat up for it.
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Jan 23, 2013 03:53
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It was a non-issue in the 2008 campaign, so I don't see why it'd be a big loving deal in 2016.
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Jan 23, 2013 03:54
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Joementum posted:It was a non-issue in the 2008 campaign, so I don't see why it'd be a big loving deal in 2016.
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Jan 23, 2013 04:57
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I'm interested to see if anyone will use his comments about the OBL raid against him. He thought it was a bad idea and advised Obama not to do it.
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Jan 23, 2013 05:01
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:I believe the HI44 founder was a big Perot supporter or something other than a loyal Dem who really really loved Hillary. My understanding though is that he's still on board with Hillary and that place will be fascinating to watch if Hillary decides to run as they'll now have to reverse course and launch internal purges against all the tea party dreck they've attracted since Hillary conceded.
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Jan 23, 2013 07:34
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Joementum posted:I'm interested to see if anyone will use his comments about the OBL raid against him. He thought it was a bad idea and advised Obama not to do it.
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Jan 23, 2013 14:12
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Oh boy! Anyone else excited about the Hillary Clinton (67/26 ABC/WaPo) Benghazi poo poo-show today?
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Jan 23, 2013 14:52
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Just when you thought you heard the last of Benghazi, it rears its ugly head yet again...
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Jan 23, 2013 15:11
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DynamicSloth posted:My understanding though is that he's still on board with Hillary and that place will be fascinating to watch if Hillary decides to run as they'll now have to reverse course and launch internal purges against all the tea party dreck they've attracted since Hillary conceded. HI44 has been pretty much all about Obama hatred since its inception. Do they even have any articles about HRC anymore? It's pretty much just seemed like a freeper site with a picture of Hillary on it.
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Jan 23, 2013 15:12
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Looks like Benghazi is going to be Hillary's truther bullshit issue, if she runs in the primary.
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Jan 23, 2013 15:55
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These hearings are pretty typical, except for the part where Clinton actually doesn't take any poo poo, which I'm enjoying. McCain's diatribe in particular was predictably and hilariously stupid. I enjoyed Durbin's crack about WMD, but otherwise the whole yuk-yuk setup game our legislature plays is so embarrassing compared to something like PM Questions. Hillary's one of the only people in the room who could obviously hold her own on PM Questions. EDIT: And Rand Paul enters the fray with his smartest-guy-in-the-room-who-is-obviously-not-that-smart routine and goes for the jugular. Urgh, too painful to watch that smarmy prick. ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Jan 23, 2013 |
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Jan 23, 2013 17:05
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The part you'll see over and over and over again is about three minutes in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGLQ63qUHHo
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Jan 23, 2013 17:09
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Joementum posted:The part you'll see over and over and over again is about three minutes in. Still can't believe Feingold lost to that douche.
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Jan 23, 2013 17:43
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Because we lack a DnD small questions thread, I'll just ask this here. What's the state of Bill and Hillary's marriage now? Do they, for example, still sleep together? Has Bill put an end to his philandering ways?
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buttcoin smuggler posted:Because we lack a DnD small questions thread, I'll just ask this here. What's the state of Bill and Hillary's marriage now? Do they, for example, still sleep together? Has Bill put an end to his philandering ways? I doubt they've seen much of eachother considering her line of work the past four years. Bill has been busy with his not-for-profit as well as fundraising/campaigning for Democrats and paying off Hillary's campaign debt. Game Change's answer pre-2008, was that Senator Clinton and Bill talk every day and see each other as much as they can. I would imagine that's still largely true except for the talking every day part. As for if Bill is still messing around or not, even the tabloids seem to have moved on from that sort of stuff. But I'm sure they'd start sniffing around if one of them started being in the public eye a whole lot more. I don't regularly read Page 8 or whatever the Post's gossip column is called. Have they talked about Bill lately?
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Jan 23, 2013 19:28
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There were rumors in 2008 that Bill was seeing other people and that this would have come out in a general election. Bonus item from PPP not worth its own post: 
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Jan 23, 2013 19:35
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Lee Harvey Oswald posted:Still can't believe Feingold lost to that douche. That wasn't exactly a satisfying response either, either from the perspective of answering the question or shutting it down as a dumb one. Although this may be a case of TV presidents raising my expectations for the real deals.
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Joementum posted:There were rumors in 2008 that Bill was seeing other people and that this would have come out in a general election. And if I recall correctly, one of those people was Gina Gershon
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Jan 23, 2013 20:36
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Joementum posted:There were rumors in 2008 that Bill was seeing other people and that this would have come out in a general election.
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Jan 23, 2013 22:06
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"I wish you won the Democratic primary in 2008" ~ Tom Cotton (R-AR) to Hillary Clinton during the Congressional hearings on Benghazi.
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Jan 23, 2013 22:52
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Joementum posted:"I wish you won the Democratic primary in 2008" ~ Tom Cotton (R-AR) to Hillary Clinton during the Congressional hearings on Benghazi.
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Could you guys give some context for those quotes, for those of us that don't follow US politics (as) closely? I'm having a hard time understanding exactly why they'd say that - what the angle is, so to say.
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Azram Legion posted:Could you guys give some context for those quotes, for those of us that don't follow US politics (as) closely? I'm having a hard time understanding exactly why they'd say that - what the angle is, so to say. They do not like Barack Obama. Tom Cotton is also from Arkansas, where Bill Clinton was Governor before becoming President, so there's some homerism going on there. Steve Chabot is basically saying that he's glad she will no longer be Secretary of State... unless she runs for President. He won't be glad then.
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Jan 24, 2013 00:18
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At least we have http://www.hillaryis45.com to keep us abreast of her progress in this pursuit!
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Jan 24, 2013 00:24
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Joementum posted:They do not like Barack Obama. Thanks! I couldn't figure out if they were honest compliments, or the kind of underhanded "... because then a black guy wouldn't be president!" I've come to expect from republicans. Guess they were sort of both, really. Realistically though, besides how the right has reacted, would things look very different if Clinton had won? I realize that is impossible to really answer in detail, but I mean in the broader sense - did she run on a significantly different platform?
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ChlamydiaJones posted:At least we have http://www.hillaryis45.com to keep us abreast of her progress in this pursuit! Same guy or copycat site? Edit: By the way, curiosity made me take a look at their commentary for the hearing (they link this thread on their front page btw), and it looks like purges are in aid of already. HRC lost quite a few long-term fans today. Brigadier Sockface fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Jan 24, 2013 |
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Azram Legion posted:Realistically though, besides how the right has reacted, would things look very different if Clinton had won? I realize that is impossible to really answer in detail, but I mean in the broader sense - did she run on a significantly different platform? The biggest policy difference between Hillary and Obama is that she thought an individual healthcare mandate would be necessary and he was opposed to the idea.
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