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Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

cats cats cats



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFrr4uXDihM

So there's a new supergroup called Corrections House featuring Scott Kelly, Sanford Parker, Bruce Lamont, and Mike from Eyehategod. They just released their first single.

It sounds more like the experimental stuff Lamont's been doing with Yakuza and his own solo work. Of course, I don't have a problem with this.

Friends Are Evil fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jan 18, 2013

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Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

Friends Are Evil posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFrr4uXDihM

So there's a new supergroup called Corrections House featuring Scott Kelly, Sanford Parker, Bruce Lamont, and Mike from Eyehategod. They just released their first single.

It sounds more like the experimental stuff Lamont's been doing with Yakuza and his own solo work. Of course, I don't have a problem with this.
That was breathtakingly uninteresting.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
How many supergroups is Scott Kelly going to be a part of? Isn't he also in Shrinebuilder (which is infinitely more awesome than that video)?

edit-- drat, now that I think about it, there's really no supergroup that could possibly be better than Scott Kelly, Al Cisneros, Dale Crover, and Wino.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Om is the best supergroup (even if it's actually a subgroup). :colbert:

And that single would be much better without the stupid video and boring vocals and with the addition of a few decent riffs.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Where the hell is my new Shrinebuilder record?
Those guys rocked live.
Any chance to see Al play though.]

\/\/\/\/

I hope you saw them live. SO much better.

Quantum of Phallus fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Jan 19, 2013

funeral fag
Jun 23, 2004

QPZIL posted:

edit-- drat, now that I think about it, there's really no supergroup that could possibly be better than Scott Kelly, Al Cisneros, Dale Crover, and Wino.

And yet somehow their album ended up being unbelievably underwhelming

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals
On the Scott Kelly topic, Saw Neurosis last night for the first time - pretty awesome show! It was also loud as gently caress, I would've been deaf had I not had my earplugs.

Was most surprised by the opening bands. I expected drone or sludge or post or something, but instead it was crazy electronic stuff. The first guy to play, Carlos Giffoni, was one dude with a couple of synths and a mixer and did some neat evolving noise stuff. Not what I was expecting, but excellent anyways. James Plotkin & Tim Wyskida were next, I missed most of it but it was drums+synth+processed noise guitar.

niff
Jul 4, 2010
drummer's current favourite band, The Kings of Frog Island:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uc54AsxidY

SafetyTrain
Nov 26, 2012

Bringing a knife to a bear fight

niff posted:

drummer's current favourite band, The Kings of Frog Island:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uc54AsxidY

gently caress... 1.30 in, straight up the guys nose. I like it.

nomapple
Apr 27, 2012
So I saw Amenra and Cult of Luna the other night. What at amazing gig. I'm pretty sure Amenra channel something in their music that elevates them above other bands of that sort of style. It's so cathartic and heavy, I did so much screaming that my eyes were streaming by the end of their set. I can't really explain it but their live shows make me feel things that other bands don't. Their records are good, I enjoy Mass II, III, IIII and V, but live they are something else entirely. I've heard criticisms that they sound too close to Neurosis/just play the same chord, but they seem to have more of a hardcore or even a screamo influence than Neurosis do. As for them playing the same chord, I kind of see this criticism with Mass IIII, but when they're playing live it doesn't matter, because they use the repetition to create the most amazing, ritualistic atmosphere. If they're playing the same chord over and over again, it's clearly working for them, and I never want to hear a different chord again!

Cult of Luna were also great, I only knew 3 of the songs though as they played most of Vertikal, but the stuff they did play sounded so good that I bought the album immediately afterwards. I really think they've used the electronic elements to enhance their sound effectively on this album, and Vicarious Redemption is already one of my favourite CoL songs. The album seems very well composed, and I'd highly recommend it to anyone who is a fan of the band, or anyone into the "post-metal" (eurgh) sound. I was amazed by what a good job the sound guy did considering how dense their sound is and how many members they had on stage, the sound was flawless. The crowd were good natured as well, there wasn't really any moshing, but there was a lot of headbanging, my neck still kind of hurts today!

If I hadn't seen a Neurosis/Godflesh coheadline show last month, I'd probably say that's the best gig I've been to in ages.

ElectricWizard
Oct 21, 2008
So it seems that The Devil's Blood have split up:

The Devil's Blood posted:

As of the 22nd of January 2013 The Devilīs Blood has returned into nothingness.
All planned Rituals will be cancelled.
No interviews will be done.
Consummatum est.

-SL & F

The Devil's Blood - 2007 / 2013

That's a drat shame, these guys really had a good thing going. I'm glad to have caught them live at Hellfest a couple of years ago, since their live-presence really overshadowed the albums.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






I think I finally found the slowest, heaviest doom metal album to ever exist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imvmYwU1QA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8D9HPvqYVk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfDHuJiRHc8

It makes me want to drive a bulldozer through my house.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
I always thought this was the slowest heaviest doom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqWV7Cctmbc

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






QPZIL posted:

I always thought this was the slowest heaviest doom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqWV7Cctmbc

drat, that is certainly a valid contender for the title. Plus it has "Doom" right in the song name, which is always a plus.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.
If it ain't Skepticism, it ain't slow enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwgEOmXNzDE

ethan
Dec 16, 2004
It's not the slowest, but drat it if Migration isn't the heaviest thing I've heard. That's the album I use to test new speakers/headphones.

nomapple
Apr 27, 2012

Oldstench posted:

If it ain't Skepticism, it ain't slow enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwgEOmXNzDE

Skepticism is slow, but not "heavy" in an "omg heaviest song ever" kind of way. The emotional weight of their songs is immense, but I find their music kind of relaxing, as opposed to something like Sleep or the Through Silver In Blood era Neurosis stuff, which I consider to be "woah so heavy" kinda thing. Funeral doom rules though and Stormcrowfleet is an incredible album.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
C'mon guys that's not slow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw3ERAS-f0Q

This is one of their speedier tracks.

Spinal Pap
Jun 24, 2007

uh-
So hey, Kongh released a full track from their upcoming album.

https://soundcloud.com/agoniarecords/kongh-skymning

Krill Nye
Feb 25, 2010

Science rules!
Which Dead Meadow would be best to pick up and start listening to first?

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS

shezihka posted:

Which Dead Meadow would be best to pick up and start listening to first?

What's wrong with The Ramones?

Schizophrenic Orb
Nov 16, 2009

Intriguing...

shezihka posted:

Which Dead Meadow would be best to pick up and start listening to first?

Their self-titled one is my favorite. I don't think I've met a single person who hasn't liked at least something from that album.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...
"Dopesmoker" is still the slowest album. Sleep are really good at subdividing their riffs and filling the spaces with interesting patterns, so it sometimes sounds like they're playing fast, but the overall tempo of the album is ridiculously low. The intro riff, for instance, takes over a minute to completely cycle through.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
Dopesmoker and that Khanate track I posted are both around 50bpm, which is about larghetto or a slow adagio. Though at that tempo when the riff in Dopesmoker switches from 4/4 to 3/4 it sneaks up on you, which is really neat.

I remember seeing the Melvins do Hung Bunny/Roman Bird Dog at like half the speed as the recorded version back in like 2002 or 2003. That was something else.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

watt par posted:

Dopesmoker and that Khanate track I posted are both around 50bpm, which is about larghetto or a slow adagio. Though at that tempo when the riff in Dopesmoker switches from 4/4 to 3/4 it sneaks up on you, which is really neat.

I remember seeing the Melvins do Hung Bunny/Roman Bird Dog at like half the speed as the recorded version back in like 2002 or 2003. That was something else.

The initial "Departure" section of Dopesmoker is even more of a mindfuck than just 4/4 to 3/4. If you just count the individual "one-two-three-fours" of the backbeat, you're missing the larger cycle of riffs that goes 12/4, 6/4, 8/4, 6/4 before repeating with a slightly different ending.

The really tricky part is that the first thing you hear Matt playing in the intro is actually the last 6/4 "bar" of the Departure riff.

Interstitial Abs
Jul 11, 2008

watt par posted:

I remember seeing the Melvins do Hung Bunny/Roman Bird Dog at like half the speed as the recorded version back in like 2002 or 2003. That was something else.

Wait, the've played Hung Bunny slower than the album? TWICE as slow?? Need proof. :colbert: actually I may have heard it since 2002 Melvin's was one of my first real concerts. I'm sure I had no IDEA what was going on. Hehe

PS you know those stupid digital juke boxes? The ones that'll play tons of CDs that have been on a major label, no matter how obscure? Pay the two bucks for a single play of "Hag Me" in a sports bar.. Trust me... It'll be worth your two bucks. ;)

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Interstitial Abs posted:

Wait, the've played Hung Bunny slower than the album? TWICE as slow?? Need proof. :colbert: actually I may have heard it since 2002 Melvin's was one of my first real concerts. I'm sure I had no IDEA what was going on. Hehe

It was the tour with David Scott Stone on guitar and synth. They closed with it, lasted nearly half an hour. I went to take a piss in the middle and ceiling tiles were crumbling in the bathroom from the vibrations. It was fantastic.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2013/01/exclusive-song-stream-intronauts-milk-leg/

New Intronaut track.

niff
Jul 4, 2010

Juaguocio posted:

The initial "Departure" section of Dopesmoker is even more of a mindfuck than just 4/4 to 3/4. If you just count the individual "one-two-three-fours" of the backbeat, you're missing the larger cycle of riffs that goes 12/4, 6/4, 8/4, 6/4 before repeating with a slightly different ending.

The really tricky part is that the first thing you hear Matt playing in the intro is actually the last 6/4 "bar" of the Departure riff.

i got really high and counted this once, this man is correct. although i highly doubt the band intentionally write in those time sigs, that's how it falls musically when you count it.

Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

cats cats cats



haljordan posted:

I think I finally found the slowest, heaviest doom metal album to ever exist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imvmYwU1QA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8D9HPvqYVk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfDHuJiRHc8

It makes me want to drive a bulldozer through my house.

gently caress YES. Buried At Sea will always be the heaviest.

I wish they released more than one album.

nomapple
Apr 27, 2012
Please recommend me more hate filled, crusty doom, kind of like this. I stumbled across these guys when Grim Kim wrote about the vinyl release for Metalsucks, and now I am desperate for more doom that sounds like this. I have Eyehategod records, but that is the closest thing I could think of in my library. The only other doom band I have that I would consider fast enough to be "violent" would be High on Fire.

ethan
Dec 16, 2004
Meth Drinker rule pretty hard in that department.

http://methdrinker.bandcamp.com/

Cpt. Spring Types
Feb 19, 2004

Wait, what?

This is loving awesome. The bass and drums sound incredible. I had no idea they had an album coming out in March, that is very good to know. Also that artwork is crazy cool.

Edit:

Heh, 420 likes. :420:

Cpt. Spring Types fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Jan 30, 2013

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
I just want Justin Chancellor to join Intronaut permanently. Have two bass players, I don't care.

Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

cats cats cats



nomapple posted:

Please recommend me more hate filled, crusty doom, kind of like this. I stumbled across these guys when Grim Kim wrote about the vinyl release for Metalsucks, and now I am desperate for more doom that sounds like this. I have Eyehategod records, but that is the closest thing I could think of in my library. The only other doom band I have that I would consider fast enough to be "violent" would be High on Fire.

Lord Mantis and Indian might be up your alley.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX73dGH08dU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGfDrO3b4v4

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

niff posted:

i got really high and counted this once, this man is correct. although i highly doubt the band intentionally write in those time sigs, that's how it falls musically when you count it.

Oh no, the time signature shifts were absolutely intentional, and meticulously planned. If you listen to the fast proto-Dopesmoker from the '94 Hawkwind tour, you can hear how some of the parts were originally just straight 4/4. The weirdness didn't set in until they started to slow the tempo way down.

The March 2006 issue of Decibel has the most comprehensive story of Dopesmoker by far. I thoroughly recommend it to all interested parties.

Loaf32
Feb 18, 2007

I'M NOT ABOUT TO START SPENDING MONEY ON THE FORUMS, THANKS.

Juaguocio posted:

Oh no, the time signature shifts were absolutely intentional, and meticulously planned. If you listen to the fast proto-Dopesmoker from the '94 Hawkwind tour, you can hear how some of the parts were originally just straight 4/4. The weirdness didn't set in until they started to slow the tempo way down.

The March 2006 issue of Decibel has the most comprehensive story of Dopesmoker by far. I thoroughly recommend it to all interested parties.

Is it the same as what they (re?)printed in Precious Metal?

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Juaguocio posted:

Oh no, the time signature shifts were absolutely intentional, and meticulously planned.



Another reason I think we should have the glorious riff chart in the OP.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
Oh yeah they definitely intentionally switched from 4/3/6/etc counts. There's no way to play that slow that consistently without subdividing so they definitely at least understand how meter works.


e: watch Matt Pike's head and his foot. He's subdividing the beat with his head to keep the tempo steady.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouRr-R6kCYI


e2: the meter change is even more abrupt and gnarly in the earlier faster live version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKbLRMMRq8g

Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Jan 30, 2013

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niff
Jul 4, 2010
That riff chart is so cool, I had no idea it was included with the 2012 SL release as well as the mini-poster. Best surprise when I opened it.

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