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Detroit Q. Spider posted:people are literally arguing about codec packs in tyool 2013 just install ffdshow, problem solved
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RZApublican posted:just install ffdshow, problem solved hell just use mpc or vlc (use mpc if you are neurotypical)
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Jan 26, 2013 20:03
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i use mplayerx cause its the first one i saw in the application store
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Jan 26, 2013 20:13
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is h265 ready eyet
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Jan 26, 2013 20:20
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Detroit Q. Spider posted:hell just use mpc or vlc (use mpc if you are neurotypical) lol you think that a player that is unable to do a rec.601 to rec.709 translation, that have vsync disabled by default, and cant properly handle a 3-2 pulldown is for normals?
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Jan 27, 2013 17:37
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yes i'm a neurotypical that uses media player classic because the internal codecs render the colors correctly lol.
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Jan 27, 2013 17:38
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next thing you're going to tell me is that crystal skull was a good movie too because it had jar jar binks head? right?
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Jan 27, 2013 17:39
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pagancow posted:vsync disabled by default but mpc does vsync by default
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Jan 27, 2013 17:39
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yes I want tearing frames when i'm watching my video - a thing said by nobody
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Jan 27, 2013 17:41
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Detroit Q. Spider posted:people are literally arguing about codec packs in tyool 2013
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Jan 27, 2013 17:43
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Cardboard Box A posted:VLC Supremacy it's icon is a traffic cone  so you know to avoid it. and yet you still have it
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Jan 27, 2013 18:04
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pagancow posted:yes I want tearing frames when i'm watching my video - a thing said by nobody i dont have this problem even with vsync off?? sorry about your weirdo refresh timings i guess also mpc renders colors correctly as far as i can tell sooooo
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Jan 27, 2013 18:12
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you have no idea how powerful I really am
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Jan 27, 2013 18:41
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pagancow posted:you have no idea how powerful I really am i have not yet bought a colorimeter mostly because there have been numerous better uses for my money so far but also because i don't need another excuse to tweak and fuss over my monitors 
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Jan 27, 2013 19:13
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I'm just talking about 0-255 full range RGB vs TV range 16-235 VLC displays the video in 16-235 and doesn't do a translation, out of the box cool when you're watching anything you've actually bought since its all encoded that way you know?
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Jan 27, 2013 20:30
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oh ok i think mpc has an option for that and its on full range by default. vlc is one of those programs that is always on the cusp of usability but winds up doing something stupid every time i use it what was the reason given for limiting the range for tv? are most tvs so bad they clip before displaying actual black or white?
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Jan 27, 2013 20:54
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its a legacy thing to save bandwith, or tv's with bad tuners. It is essentially the white space between channels on analog systems. Today it's just a "because TV electronics expect to display signal between 16-235" in digital realm. In files it's a way to reduce bit-depth and save space on compression.
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Jan 27, 2013 21:18
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oh ok. this is also why we still have interlaced video i assume. i mean does interlacing save any bandwidth/data rate/whatever when encoded with lossy compression? it doesn't seem like it would. i guess the whole 16-235 thing is also what the color space setting on my tv is trying to cope with
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Jan 27, 2013 21:31
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also it's legacy stuff from the analog video days for mixing video feeds for live broadcasts and stuff. like, you'd have a hardware mixer box with, say, 2 video inputs. it would show video feed 1, except anywhere feed 1 was pure black it would let feed 2 show through. so you had to make sure there was never any pure black except anywhere that was supposed to be transparent, or the little news segment you had cut together for airing on the nightly news might accidentally have something else showing through, depending on what they ran it through in the control room during broadcast. Doc Block fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jan 27, 2013 |
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Detroit Q. Spider posted:oh ok. this is also why we still have interlaced video i assume. i mean does interlacing save any bandwidth/data rate/whatever when encoded with lossy compression? it doesn't seem like it would. Over HDMI there should be nothing to cope with, the device will do a handshake and say "I'm full range, or TV range" and TV will display accordingly Things get hosed up when you USE VLC where the comptuer's HDMI handhshake said "yep full range" and VLC defaults to displaying the TV range straight on a full range device. OPPPEEN SOOOREESSS Interlaced video was a way to save bandwidth in analog by only using half the cycles needed to "display 60 cycles per second" Fishmech claims its the mans way of selling you high end broadcast equipment. Interlaced needs to go away with DCT like compression schemes as it is really inefficient for saving bandwidth.
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Jan 27, 2013 21:59
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good news, h.265 supports interlaced video by saving the fields as separate frames and having some flag that tells the decoder that they should be shown interlaced.
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Jan 27, 2013 22:12
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Wheany posted:good news, h.265 supports interlaced video by saving the fields as separate frames and having some flag that tells the decoder that they should be shown interlaced. well that should reduce some of the shittiness of converting interlaced video. maybe
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Jan 27, 2013 22:13
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just use wmp, u autists. windows has all the codecs you need installed already.
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Jan 27, 2013 23:47
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Shaggar posted:just use wmp, u autists. windows has all the codecs you need installed already. qft unless you like keyboard controls.
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Jan 27, 2013 23:54
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Wheany posted:good news, h.265 supports interlaced video by saving the fields as separate frames and having some flag that tells the decoder that they should be shown interlaced. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaa haaaa haa haaha haahahahhaha like anybody will support this decode side. see h.264
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Jan 27, 2013 23:54
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Shaggar posted:just use wmp, u autists. windows has all the codecs you need installed already. so does mpc
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Jan 28, 2013 00:12
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pagancow posted:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaa haaaa haa haaha haahahahhaha it'll be a good bellwether of who is and who aint worthy as a manufacturer 
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Jan 28, 2013 00:13
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pagancow posted:qft unless you like keyboard controls. wmp supports media keys
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Shaggar posted:wmp supports media keys model m bro i like how they decided to remove all the keyboard shortcuts in wmp9 for stop play pause ff because that was really hurting the UX pagancow fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jan 28, 2013 |
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I just watched The Matrix on Blu-Ray and i could see compression artifacts. I hit select on the PS3 controller and saw 18mbps average vc-1 loooooooooooooool shaggar how do you explain that?
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pagancow posted:I just watched The Matrix on Blu-Ray and i could see compression artifacts. lovely outdated image processor?
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Detroit Q. Spider posted:lovely outdated image processor? VC-1 doesn't have deblocking enabled by default in the encoder, why would someone encode it right in the first place? lovely outdated codec?
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pagancow posted:VC-1 doesn't have deblocking enabled by default in the encoder, why would someone encode it right in the first place? imo thats what you get for watching the matrix in tyool 2013
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Jan 28, 2013 06:14
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pagan cow are there colourblind people who do post work
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like sometimes I think that if I overcompensated the red and green on my screen accordingly id be able to see things "normally" but I don't think anything works that way plus it would still look wrong to me I think?
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Jan 28, 2013 11:12
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vlc is so bad, especially how it handles sound, im sure it sounds real good on the coders logitech desktop speakers though!
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ahmeni posted:pagan cow are there colourblind people who do post work Yeah. They are just editors or sound people or they work with people who can help them out if needed. Also don't have to see all color to shoot either.
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Jan 28, 2013 16:12
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i've done a bunch of tv production and I can't see green for poo poo
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woah...then...yospos is a grey forum for you?
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