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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Regarding Casino Royale, it's a very important character moment for Bond that AFTER he discovers Vesper was the mole, he disagrees with M's assessment that this makes Mathis innocent and they should release him. Bond quite coldly tells her to continue to torture somebody he considers a friend because "just because she was guilty doesn't automatically make him innocent".

In Quantum of Solace (which has plenty of problems, unfortunately), it's revealed that Mathis was eventually proved innocent and released, retired and paid off for his troubles. Once again it's an important part of Bond's character that he feels (or at least exhibits) absolutely no remorse for his actions. He did what needed to be done, and Mathis wants to stay angry at him but just can't bring himself to maintain his rage, because he knows that Bond made the right call based on the situation.

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Robzor McFabulous
Jan 31, 2011

IShallRiseAgain posted:

Slow motion is literally an addictive and terrible drug in the movie. That was kind of the whole point.

True, and they showed that pretty well in some of the slo-mo bits, but I don't think we really needed to watch someone splashing in the bath in slow-motion for what seemed like forever.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Robzor McFabulous posted:

True, and they showed that pretty well in some of the slo-mo bits, but I don't think we really needed to watch someone splashing in the bath in slow-motion for what seemed like forever.

Mama just wanted to watch the water diamonds, man, harsh her high she'll skin you alive.

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer
Watching No Country for Old Men and when Moss leaves the hotel he goes to buy boots. He's talking to the sales guy and asks if they sell socks. Guy says Yes, but only in black. Moss says good, that's all he wears. Cut to Moss in the boot store bathroom getting ready to change his white socks he's wearing into brand new...white socks.


Why make a point of having the black sock exchange if the very next scene has him taking off white socks to put on store bought white socks?

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost

MindlessHavok posted:

Watching No Country for Old Men and when Moss leaves the hotel he goes to buy boots. He's talking to the sales guy and asks if they sell socks. Guy says Yes, but only in black. Moss says good, that's all he wears. Cut to Moss in the boot store bathroom getting ready to change his white socks he's wearing into brand new...white socks.


Why make a point of having the black sock exchange if the very next scene has him taking off white socks to put on store bought white socks?

He says they only sell white socks. I haven't seen the movie in years but I would bet my testicles and the lives of everyone I care about that he says white socks.

I feel so strongly about this that I googled

quote:

Moss
I need the Larry Mahan's in black,
size 11.


Salesman
Okay.


Moss
You sell socks?


Salesman
Just white.


He gathers up a brown paper bag from a pharmacy.


Moss
White is all I wear. You got a bath-
room?

ctrl-f for Socks here http://www.youknow-forkids.com/nocountryforoldmen.txt

skull guy
Nov 22, 2007

by T. Finninho

Supreme Allah posted:

He says they only sell white socks. I haven't seen the movie in years but I would bet my testicles and the lives of everyone I care about that he says white socks.

I feel so strongly about this that I googled


ctrl-f for Socks here http://www.youknow-forkids.com/nocountryforoldmen.txt

Had the same reaction as you, basically, so I just double checked by watching the dvd. They both say white.

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

Clearly the irritating part is that someone would only ever wear white socks.

BAKA FLOCKA FLAME
Oct 9, 2012

by Pipski
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets: The basilisk doesn't look like a loving snake.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

BAKA FLOCKA FLAME posted:

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets: The basilisk doesn't look like a loving snake.

Yes it does? :confused: It's not supposed to be just a giant snake, it's supposed to be a snake-like monster. If you were expecting a monstrous cobra, you never paid much attention to mythology.

BAKA FLOCKA FLAME
Oct 9, 2012

by Pipski
Well, it would have been OK, if they hadn't gone "snake snake snake snake snake snake snake" like the whole way through the film.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

erm... actually thieves should be summarily executed
I thought it was pretty drat snake-like, while being more interesting than "it is literally just a giant snake."

This is a picture from the Harry Potter wiki



That doesn't look like a snake to you?

Snaaaaaake.

BAKA FLOCKA FLAME
Oct 9, 2012

by Pipski
Here it is from the film:



It looks more like some kind of lizard/crocodile/dinosaur thing to me. At least the head does. A legless beasty does not a snake maketh. I wondered if they were just being lazy, but I can understand that they might have wanted to make it a bit different. It just looked kind of cheap to me.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


A minor annoying thing from the Denzel version of Man on Fire, when talking abut the crooked cops he's going after they keep calling them a "brotherhood" called "La Hermandad." Hermandad is a Spanish word meaning brotherhood. So they basically keep saying "A brotherhood called 'brotherhood.'"

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

What I found more irrationally irritating in Chamber of Secrets was the horrible way they got across the Phoenix tearing out the Basilisk's eyes. I know that the all-ages audience meant they were hardly going to go into full gore mode, but the whole thing feels so clumsily handled. Showing a shadow of what is happening followed by Tom Riddle loudly verbalizing what just happened to anybody who missed it always irritates me.

Crowetron
Apr 29, 2009

muscles like this? posted:

A minor annoying thing from the Denzel version of Man on Fire, when talking abut the crooked cops he's going after they keep calling them a "brotherhood" called "La Hermandad." Hermandad is a Spanish word meaning brotherhood. So they basically keep saying "A brotherhood called 'brotherhood.'"

This reminds me of a running gag in Saint's Row 1 where the cast continuously refers to one of the rival gangs as "The Los Carnales".

Kruller
Feb 20, 2004

It's time to restore dignity to the Farnsworth name!

BAKA FLOCKA FLAME posted:

Here it is from the film:



It looks more like some kind of lizard/crocodile/dinosaur thing to me. At least the head does. A legless beasty does not a snake maketh. I wondered if they were just being lazy, but I can understand that they might have wanted to make it a bit different. It just looked kind of cheap to me.

That's a snake, man. Not all snakes have the same head shape. A horned viper has horns, in fact! I believe you have found the most irrational irritation in the thread.

Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011

Kruller posted:

That's a snake, man. Not all snakes have the same head shape. A horned viper has horns, in fact! I believe you have found the most irrational irritation in the thread.

It's not the head shape, I think it's the lower jaw. Most snakes have a lower jaw that's only connected by a tiny bone and muscle so it can "unhinge" and open extremely wide. The basilisk from the film has something more close to a crocodile's mouth where it's got too much girth in the bottom jaw, and the "neck" is far too defined to be based off a snake. It also has eyes pointing forward on the top of it's head rather than on the sides, which isn't something very common with snakes. It's definitely pulling more inspiration from a croc/dino than a snake.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
It's goddamn terrifying, that's all that counts. I bet you guys complained Shelob was too big. :colbert:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

poptart_fairy posted:

It's goddamn terrifying, that's all that counts. I bet you guys complained Shelob was too big. :colbert:

I thought she was a little too small to be perfectly honest :shobon:

Freddles
Feb 5, 2009
Django was a great movie, but I couldn't help but wonder throughout: how did Django (and his wife, moreover) learn to ride a horse? They make such a big fuss throughout the movie about blacks riding horses, and it's not something you just pick up immediately.

Spermando
Jun 13, 2009

muscles like this? posted:

A minor annoying thing from the Denzel version of Man on Fire, when talking abut the crooked cops he's going after they keep calling them a "brotherhood" called "La Hermandad." Hermandad is a Spanish word meaning brotherhood. So they basically keep saying "A brotherhood called 'brotherhood.'"

Speaking of lazy Spanish, I hope whoever came up with "Los Pollos Hermanos" got fired.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

erm... actually thieves should be summarily executed
That one bugged me, too, and I don't even speak Spanish. The word order is backwards, right? "Los Hermanos (de?) Pollo" or something?

Spermando
Jun 13, 2009

Sagebrush posted:

That one bugged me, too, and I don't even speak Spanish. The word order is backwards, right? "Los Hermanos (de?) Pollo" or something?

"Los hermanos pollos" or "Los hermanos Pollo", depends on whether it's supposed to a surname or just chicken.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"
I assumed it was supposed to be poking at all those cheesy faux-Mexican eateries that everyone has been to.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Crowetron posted:

This reminds me of a running gag in Saint's Row 1 where the cast continuously refers to one of the rival gangs as "The Los Carnales".

Yeah, it's even mentioned in game, where one other gang members calls him out on how he's effectively saying "The The Carnales".

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012

Freddles posted:

Django was a great movie, but I couldn't help but wonder throughout: how did Django (and his wife, moreover) learn to ride a horse? They make such a big fuss throughout the movie about blacks riding horses, and it's not something you just pick up immediately.
People in movies know how to gallop on a horse as soon as they mount it and its pretty weird if you actually ride. I've been taking riding lessons for two years and I still haven't completely gotten the hand of cantering yet. Not to mention that horses in movies are usually like furry cars who can go at full speed for 15 minutes without getting tired.

redmercer
Sep 15, 2011

by Fistgrrl

Coffee And Pie posted:

I assumed it was supposed to be poking at all those cheesy faux-Mexican eateries that everyone has been to.

I wouldn't be surprised if it were a reference to "The El Gringo" which was the oldest and by far the worst Mexican restaurant in Boise, Idaho. Closed forever six months after a change in management, presumably after they were done laundering meth money

Jay 2K Winger
Oct 10, 2007

What are you looking for?

VogeGandire posted:

Yeah, it's even mentioned in game, where one other gang members calls him out on how he's effectively saying "The The Carnales".

He even ends up calling them "The Los Carnales" at one point, and gets angry about it. "Now you've got me doing it!"

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!

Freddles posted:

Django was a great movie, but I couldn't help but wonder throughout: how did Django (and his wife, moreover) learn to ride a horse? They make such a big fuss throughout the movie about blacks riding horses, and it's not something you just pick up immediately.

Like half of what Django does in that movie is reinforce the whole "1 in 10,000" thing. A normal person wouldn't have made those rifle shots or been capable of that quickdraw snowman scene the first few times they handled a gun. Django's just crazy talented at a lot of stuff.

Kruller
Feb 20, 2004

It's time to restore dignity to the Farnsworth name!

Razorwired posted:

Like half of what Django does in that movie is reinforce the whole "1 in 10,000" thing. A normal person wouldn't have made those rifle shots or been capable of that quickdraw snowman scene the first few times they handled a gun. Django's just crazy talented at a lot of stuff.

So Tarantino made a movie where the magical negro is the protagonist, instead of the white man's helper?

poonchasta
Feb 22, 2007

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Razorwired posted:

Like half of what Django does in that movie is reinforce the whole "1 in 10,000" thing. A normal person wouldn't have made those rifle shots or been capable of that quickdraw snowman scene the first few times they handled a gun. Django's just crazy talented at a lot of stuff.

What irrationally irritated me about Django was that he was supposed to be a badass with guns but he never did a sweet rear end reload with his revolver. Whenever he ran out of bullets he always had another gun that he could pick up from a dead guy.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


In the beginning of Mission Impossible 1 where the first team are all getting killed the way they kill of Emilio Estevez's character is so stupid. Mostly in that he probably would have survived if he hadn't just sat there like a lump. Even if he had just moved his head.

Edit: Also this is just a general complaint about the series as a whole but in every movie for some reason Ethan has to go rogue and do everything by himself without IMF support.

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corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
I get that the entire point of Taken is watching Liam Neeson being an unstoppable badass capable of making any man swoon :allears:, but it always bothered me about how irrelevant her best friend became. Everything's all sunshine and unicorns and lollipops at the end since Liam saved the day, but Jesus Christ her best friend died a horrible death and no one seems to give a poo poo because hey at least my daughter's fine. :shrug:

I've only seen it once so maybe I'm forgetting something, but her character just feels kind of thrown in. Does she not have a family? Does no one care about her? Even Liam's daughter just seems happy as hell by the end. I'd imagine anyone else who went through what she did would be irreparably damaged for life.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


To be fair to the movie he's shown at the very beginning very clearly not giving a poo poo about her best friend. He basically tells the kidnappers they can have her as long as they leave his daughter alone.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

Larsson posted:

I get that the entire point of Taken is watching Liam Neeson being an unstoppable badass capable of making any man swoon :allears:, but it always bothered me about how irrelevant her best friend became. Everything's all sunshine and unicorns and lollipops at the end since Liam saved the day, but Jesus Christ her best friend died a horrible death and no one seems to give a poo poo because hey at least my daughter's fine. :shrug:

I've only seen it once so maybe I'm forgetting something, but her character just feels kind of thrown in. Does she not have a family? Does no one care about her? Even Liam's daughter just seems happy as hell by the end. I'd imagine anyone else who went through what she did would be irreparably damaged for life.

It's because she's the strawman "whore" character destined to die horribly because she's a sinner or something. I really don't like the themes/morals/whatever of Taken, cause it comes off a lot like an indulgent "told ya so" power fantasy from Liam Neeson's point of view...but every time it's on I can't stop watching it and loving every second of it.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


While you are supposed to root for him the movie is not shy about showing how Liam Neeson's character is not a good person. See also all the other sex slaves he just leaves to their fates.

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
Similar to that Taken thing, how come no one in 2012 even acknowledges Tamara's death? She saved the little girl and her dog and drowns while screaming for help. How come the place she was in was filling up with water while the two other containers by her weren't. Gordon dies a horrible death too but no one really cares either. The thing that bugged me the most about that movie was how the bad guy was a total rear end in a top hat but actually made sense so it was impossible to care about anyone.

Pump it up! Do it!
Oct 3, 2012

Celery Face posted:

Similar to that Taken thing, how come no one in 2012 even acknowledges Tamara's death? She saved the little girl and her dog and drowns while screaming for help. How come the place she was in was filling up with water while the two other containers by her weren't. Gordon dies a horrible death too but no one really cares either. The thing that bugged me the most about that movie was how the bad guy was a total rear end in a top hat but actually made sense so it was impossible to care about anyone.

That really annoyed me about 2012, that Oliver Platt was somehow evil because he didn't want to take on more people than they could feed. If Africa miraculously hadn't survived all of humanity would have been hosed.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Kruller posted:

That's a snake, man. Not all snakes have the same head shape. A horned viper has horns, in fact! I believe you have found the most irrational irritation in the thread.

Most people didn't get a good look at it. Remember anyone who did would be dead (but thanks to dumb luck, paralyzed). So if you saw it out of the corner of your eye, snake.

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Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

Supreme Allah posted:

He says they only sell white socks. I haven't seen the movie in years but I would bet my testicles and the lives of everyone I care about that he says white socks.

I feel so strongly about this that I googled


ctrl-f for Socks here http://www.youknow-forkids.com/nocountryforoldmen.txt

I could have SWORN he said black socks. I was watching the edited for TV version on FX so maybe the dialog was different for some reason? I'll check and see if it's On Demand when I get home.

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