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alkama posted:Hey mister, just a note to tell you your link is broken ;( My upload decided it needed to play at half-speed. It sounded like a dying walkman and I'll have to re-up it when I get home today.
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Jan 25, 2013 20:58
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OK, I fixed it, there was some weirdness that happened in conversion to mp3. Please check it out and let me know if I should go back and work more on it! http://soundcloud.com/killhamster/and-now-a-message-from-the
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Jan 26, 2013 02:36
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Are there any opinions on the Ableton 'Push' MIDI controller that is coming out this Feb? I've been looking for a MIDI controller for a while suited for a beginner, but this thing sounds like a game changer. It's definitely A LOT more than I want to spend (it's $600), but the feature integration with Ableton is awesome. It also outputs in the MIDI format and not some odd proprietary format just suited for ableton, so it can be used with other DAWs too. I'm really tempted to order it as a gift to myself for my upcoming birthday. I'm just not sure that I am ready for something this complicated. However, I'd honestly rather have a 'new' controller and pay the premium rather than Craigslist something that has been beat to poo poo. I've been burned before on a groovebox that crapped out after a month of use. So is this actually the holy grail of controllers everyone is making it out to be? Or do y'all have any other suggestions?
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Jan 26, 2013 05:52
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Avalanche posted:So is this actually the holy grail of controllers everyone is making it out to be? Or do y'all have any other suggestions? It certainly looks nice, but as far as I can tell nobody outside of Ableton has used it until NAMM, so there aren't any good outside opinions yet. Although it might output MIDI, support for integration like you see in the videos will only be built into Live 9, so add on a copy of that to the cost if the included Live 9 Intro isn't good enough for you.
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Jan 26, 2013 15:52
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Thoogsby posted:I just finished what I would probably consider my first complete track. This thread is basically what got me started making music and I still have a long way to go but Its absurd how much of a leg up I got from starting here. I'd love some feedback on this: I'm really loving this except for the rapid little hat ticks. Those don't seem to fit with the rest of the instruments very well. The other drums all have this fantastic, knocking around pool balls kinda feel.
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Jan 26, 2013 19:27
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Avalanche posted:Are there any opinions on the Ableton 'Push' MIDI controller that is coming out this Feb? I've been looking for a MIDI controller for a while suited for a beginner, but this thing sounds like a game changer. It's definitely A LOT more than I want to spend (it's $600), but the feature integration with Ableton is awesome. It seems pretty cool but very expensive. The function that lets you play scales with the pads seems interesting - almost like cheat mode for music theory. Curious if there are any other controllers or midi plugins that do this already?
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Jan 26, 2013 19:46
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a foolish pianist posted:I'm really loving this except for the rapid little hat ticks. Those don't seem to fit with the rest of the instruments very well. The other drums all have this fantastic, knocking around pool balls kinda feel. Thanks man, and yeah listening to it now I can see there are a ton of flaws. Started putting together this track this week. I'm not sure how a I feel about it. I think it's got some good elements but it doesn't sound as clean as I would like. I might just go in an re-EQ everything. I'd love some feedback on it. https://soundcloud.com/heyitsben/1-22-13-v5 Thoogsby fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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Jan 26, 2013 19:55
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Lump Shaker posted:The function that lets you play scales with the pads seems interesting - almost like cheat mode for music theory. Curious if there are any other controllers or midi plugins that do this already? This series of plugins may be old, but they still work fine for me. There's also some interesting CC converter/remapper stuff. I mostly occasionally use the midi monitor plugin to troubleshoot.
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Jan 26, 2013 22:37
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New track  https://soundcloud.com/colugo/check-your-mucilageThis is probably the most obnoxious, beep-boop thing I have ever made. I'm going to go have a quiet lie down now.
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Jan 26, 2013 23:59
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Just finished a kind of harder techno track. I'm getting back into producing after a long time and am trying to get better at mixing/eqing. Any feedback would be appreciated. I think the bass might be muddy. https://soundcloud.com/ttinga/ttinga-svress
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Jan 27, 2013 23:00
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Lump Shaker posted:Just finished a kind of harder techno track. I'm getting back into producing after a long time and am trying to get better at mixing/eqing. Any feedback would be appreciated. I think the bass might be muddy. And another great track ! Reminds me my youth listening to Jay Denham, The Advent, ... Very solid techno. Now for the advices (they're just my opinion and I can seriously be wrong) some elements sound a bit too "frontmost" and could blend a bit more like the stabs that intermittently appear around 1:00, the bell hit at 1:38, and the filtered bell sound on the whole last part (from 6:34 to end). Those feel like standing out too much or hitting too strong. Or maybe they're just too dry? The muddy bass feels part of the style, so it didnt stroke me;) Want more of your tracks on your soundcloud ! please !
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Jan 28, 2013 01:02
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alkama posted:And another great track ! Reminds me my youth listening to Jay Denham, The Advent, ... Thanks! I really appreciate the feedback. Yes, I agree - those sounds you pointed out are all on the same track and I think the wet/dry on the reverb needs to be cranked a bit.
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Jan 28, 2013 04:05
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Hi this thread! I posted this in March 2012: Here's what I'm up to these days! Still a work in progress, and also I switched to using mostly external synthesizers! http://soundcloud.com/helpimintexas/serious-progress Long story short, SA is a great great great GREAT resource for aspiring musicians. 
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Jan 28, 2013 05:51
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So I have a long story behind why I'm asking this and what I'm asking for but instead of creating a new Ask/Tell thread I'll just throw a smallish question in here and see what pops out. Note: I know a small-to-moderate amount about creating music but have never been satisfied by my own results. The context: I have a trance track on hand composed of (what seems like) a small set of instruments and a rather repetitive set of notes. The question: Do people exist with the talent to listen to this track, pick out the instruments (not the notes), and then be able to replicate those instruments with relative ease through whatever VST of their choice? Follow-up questions: If these people exist, where can I find them? Is there a word or phrase which describes this talent, like how some people have 'perfect pitch'? How helpful are these people towards those who have lesser musical talent? Do they charge? I'll gladly answer questions to flesh out why I'm asking but I just sorta generally wonder about this kind of thing. Are there DJ-duos who work together because one does instruments while the other does notes?
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Jan 28, 2013 06:14
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DaveKap posted:The question: Do people exist with the talent to listen to this track, pick out the instruments (not the notes), and then be able to replicate those instruments with relative ease through whatever VST of their choice? There's a bunch of us who can do this with varying degrees of success in the synthesizer thread. It comes more from a background in synthesis than composition.
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Jan 28, 2013 06:19
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So I got some new sounds and VSTs to play with and I thought I'd try my hand at an electronic song. I think this is dubstep because it's 140 and uses Massive and LFOs, but to be honest I don't listen to EDM regularly so maybe it's not. https://soundcloud.com/dukamok/empathic First time using tons of compression and sidechaining kicks, did it come through okay in the mix? I go back and forth between feeling like the kick and bass are too quiet and too loud. Second question is around the bass, I know it's a bit simplistic at the moment, and want to dive into making it more interesting, but not sure where to start. Any tips to spice up the triplet/sixteenth alternation that I can't seem to escape?
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Jan 28, 2013 08:19
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:Hi this thread! I posted this in March 2012: I'm digging it, sort of a modern acid/Moroder vibe. The kick could stand to be a lot bigger/fatter/deeper. Also don't be afraid to compress the drums a bit, some moderate compression on the kick can give it more body, and a gentle buss compressor on the drum submix can help pull the drum part together. The bass sounds a little farty and could probably benefit from a little eq cut around 250Hz but nothing serious. I really like the pad synth, what is that?
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Jan 28, 2013 09:18
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DaveKap posted:The question: Do people exist with the talent to listen to this track, pick out the instruments (not the notes), and then be able to replicate those instruments with relative ease through whatever VST of their choice? Like WAFFLEHOUND said, this is pretty much what synthesis and sound design are all about. A good starting point is knowing how different waveforms sound (sawtooth / square / sine / etc.), understanding filters (lowpass / highpass / etc., filter resonance), understanding modulation (LFOs and envelopes) and effects. That's a good palette for a lot of common bass/lead/pad sounds, though from there it helps to know a bit about different types of synthesis (wavetable, FM, granular, sample-based) which can have characteristics not possible with a basic subtractive (analog-style) synth. And some individual synths (like a Minimoog or a Roland TB-303) have a very distinctive sound that's difficult to copy unless it's a very faithful emulation of that particular instrument. A good way to learn this stuff is to take a subtractive synth (hardware or VST) of medium-ish complexity (the free "Synth 1" VST is the usual recommendation, and a fine choice) and learn it inside out, learn what every control and parameter does, and how to dial in sounds from a blank preset. Learn to make a few synthy sounds, also some percussion sounds (kick drums, crash cymbals, xylophones), and sound effects are great practice -- stuff like a revving race car engine, doors creaking, slide whistle, dripping water, etc.) quote:I'll gladly answer questions to flesh out why I'm asking but I just sorta generally wonder about this kind of thing. Are there DJ-duos who work together because one does instruments while the other does notes? We used to have a "how do I make this sound?" thread but I think it's expired into the archives. But yeah, if you have questions about anything specific, this thread or the Synthesizer thread are great places to ask. Also, yeah, there are probably production teams where one person is focused on the compositional aspects and one person is focused on sound design. There's a third piece of the pie, that's engineering -- knowing how to fit the individual sounds together in a tight, cohesive way (with rock/live/instrumental music, that's usually the job of somebody at the recording studio, but with electronic music it's an integral part of the songwriting process).
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Jan 28, 2013 09:51
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h_double posted:We used to have a "how do I make this sound?" thread but I think it's expired into the archives. Thing is - I'm glad it still has momentum but I'm sort of getting burned out on it. I also get several PMs on other forums of people asking me how to make stuff. The stupid thing is that there are lots of people who consider themselves synthesis geniuses but can't be bothered to answer even the simple entry-level stuff. I should really write down my reverse-engineering strategies but most of 'm are kind of like learning multiplication in school; you just memorize everything from 1x1 to 10x10 and the rest follows from that. Most importantly, mimicking other people's sounds is interesting as a learning exercise but ultimately sort of a dead end; moreso with complex dubstep basslines and crap because it's not about that specific particular sound but the concept of modulating things so-and-so. quote:Also, yeah, there are probably production teams where one person is focused on the compositional aspects and one person is focused on sound design. There's a third piece of the pie, that's engineering -- knowing how to fit the individual sounds together in a tight, cohesive way (with rock/live/instrumental music, that's usually the job of somebody at the recording studio, but with electronic music it's an integral part of the songwriting process). Yeah, dividing stuff up between teams allows you to specialize further in what you're good at and most importantly, having a buddy lets you get poo poo done because you can motivate eachother. Do they charge? I don't. I've always seen "studio secrets" as ridiculous; often it's something embarrassingly simple like buying the correct device and being the first to use it in an unconventional way (Auto-tune), or it's by combining two or three devices and feeding them into eachother in ways usually not explored or recommended by conventional studio practices ("Crystal echo delay"). If the only thing that gives you an edge is money, you didn't have an edge to begin with. Laserjet 4P fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Jan 28, 2013 |
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Jan 28, 2013 10:09
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My friend suggested an informal "let's remix 80s songs" challenge for a few of us, and after a couple of false starts on my part (protip: "Message in a Bottle" and "Bela Lugosi's Dead" are both late 1979), I'm doing an electro-house mix of "Eye of the Tiger", still a work in progress: http://discolingua.com/music/747_vs_Survivor-Eye_of_the_Tiger_%28Tiger_Bomb_the_Temple_remix%29.mp3
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Jan 28, 2013 11:15
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DukAmok posted:Second question is around the bass, I know it's a bit simplistic at the moment, and want to dive into making it more interesting, but not sure where to start. Any tips to spice up the triplet/sixteenth alternation that I can't seem to escape? I have no problems with the bass being simplistic; the track is pretty busy, the last thing you need is an extra element that tries to draw attention. Sorry for skipping over the mixing advice, but I have only limited access to my good speakers. I just had the most pleasant flashback to the mid nineties, in a good way.
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Jan 28, 2013 11:26
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h_double posted:I'm digging it, sort of a modern acid/Moroder vibe. The kick was a lot bigger, but I actually turned down the gain on it a tiny bit for that bounce because it was clipping too much. I have a sneaking suspicion that I haven't adjusted the gain on my line in for it, but yeah it's a pretty drat massive kick otherwise. None of the drum sounds are inboard though. The pad is an Access Virus B, which is a bit thin right now since I ran out of cables and am running it mono in instead of stereo. It should widen up pretty quickly once I fix that small detail. Also your comment about modern acid makes me happy, since that's exactly what I was setting out to do. edit: Are you referring to the farty bass early one when it doesn't have the full range there? Because I completely agree with that. WAFFLEHOUND fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jan 28, 2013 |
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Jan 28, 2013 14:42
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Cross-posting from the synthesizer thread. Coursera is sponsoring a (free) course, Introduction to Digital Sound Design, that just started today. https://www.coursera.org/course/digitalsounddesign quote:Sound has always been a significant part of human experience. It shapes and transforms our everyday world. Sounds and music are embedded in almost every aspect of daily life, from communication and artistic expression to commerce, politics, and our social and cultural identities. I wasn't sure if this would be of much value, but I just finished watching a good bit of the first week's lectures and so far it's really good! Even if you understand the basic concepts (timbre, partials/overtones), the instructor is really interesting and comprehensive, with good examples drawn everywhere from fine art to science to avant-garde stuff. It's free and just requires a quick registration at Coursera.
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Jan 28, 2013 18:50
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I signed up for it. It'll be nice to have a decent foundational understanding of some of the concepts in addition to just dicking around with stuff until I learn it.
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Jan 28, 2013 20:39
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:The kick was a lot bigger, but I actually turned down the gain on it a tiny bit for that bounce because it was clipping too much. I have a sneaking suspicion that I haven't adjusted the gain on my line in for it, but yeah it's a pretty drat massive kick otherwise. None of the drum sounds are inboard though. The kick sounds good in isolation, but it has a really sharp dynamic transient. When a bunch of other stuff is going on in the mix, a lot of the kick gets buried, so that mostly what comes through is just the initial click/attack, which sounds comparatively thin. You might want to try some combination of: compressing or limiting the kick (so the attack isn't as loud and you can bring up the decay louder), turn down the bass parts, EQ out some frequencies in the bass parts to give the kick more room. I find it helpful to think in a "less is more" mindset with mixing; "how much can I strip out (with EQ etc.) and still have this part do its thing?" quote:The pad is an Access Virus B, which is a bit thin right now since I ran out of cables and am running it mono in instead of stereo. It should widen up pretty quickly once I fix that small detail. Again, be careful with that; wide and dramatic sounds great in isolation, but in a full mix, it can crowd up a lot of room in the soundstage.
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Jan 28, 2013 22:12
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h_double posted:Again, be careful with that; wide and dramatic sounds great in isolation, but in a full mix, it can crowd up a lot of room in the soundstage. Yep, adding the width caused it to blow out the lead. I'm okay with that though, since the parts I care about bringing it in are when the lead is quieted. Since I silenced the lead, I lowpassed the pad and am just cranking up the filter as it progresses before dropping back into the lead. The only downside is since this is a Virus B I've got to manually crank it instead of being all VST and drawing a curve.
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Jan 28, 2013 22:16
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https://soundcloud.com/ellywu2/sewer-1 Random electro-house noodlings. It's a remix of an old videogame soundtrack. I can't master worth a drat at the moment, as I have bad speakers and no frame of reference (clearly just an excuse).
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Jan 29, 2013 01:15
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Fixed the Virus sounds (and stereo) and added some compression on the drums that's probably a bit overkill. Obviously there's some fuckups in here since I'm doing it all live. https://soundcloud.com/helpimintexas/live-run
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Jan 29, 2013 01:23
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Lump Shaker posted:Thanks! I really appreciate the feedback. Yes, I agree - those sounds you pointed out are all on the same track and I think the wet/dry on the reverb needs to be cranked a bit. Possibility for a DL pretty please?
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Jan 29, 2013 01:38
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Longtiem posted:Possibility for a DL pretty please? Sure, PM me and I'll send you a 320 if you want it.
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Jan 29, 2013 01:56
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Pretty much done with this track. Pretty simple, just a beat. I'm really new to warping/manipulating vocals so I'm not 100% confident it how it turned it out. https://soundcloud.com/heyitsben/seven-degrees-at-2pm
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Jan 29, 2013 02:07
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Thoogsby posted:Pretty much done with this track. Pretty simple, just a beat. I'm really new to warping/manipulating vocals so I'm not 100% confident it how it turned it out. Vocals sound dope, piano and additional perc sound dope. The snare needs to be less chunky and more verby maybe?
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Jan 29, 2013 19:55
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https://soundcloud.com/careyb/beta-beat Some hip hop/bass/techno combo Cabal Ties fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Jan 31, 2013 |
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Jan 31, 2013 01:08
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Lump Shaker posted:Thanks! I really appreciate the feedback. Yes, I agree - those sounds you pointed out are all on the same track and I think the wet/dry on the reverb needs to be cranked a bit. Cool track mate. Got a sweet progression to it. I would move those elements into their own tracks as subtle changes in the eq on each layer might help them blend in very subtly. You could try bussing them together then compressing/more reverb so you get that same roll? e: Sounds like another low end sound on that big last drop would turn it into a monster
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Jan 31, 2013 01:34
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h_double posted:Cross-posting from the synthesizer thread. I signed up and now I'm catching up. This is very good, thanks for the link!
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Jan 31, 2013 04:53
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:Fixed the Virus sounds (and stereo) and added some compression on the drums that's probably a bit overkill. Obviously there's some fuckups in here since I'm doing it all live. I'd still love some advice on how to make this more compelling!
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Jan 31, 2013 04:54
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I made some techno. http://soundcloud.com/downpour/untitled I think it might be too basic - I was going for a seamless drone-y thing w/ everything drifting in and out, but then I went back to cutting poo poo in and out for some reason and I cant tell if i'm not happy because it's not what I intended or it's just not good.
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Jan 31, 2013 07:19
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slardel posted:I think it's just a harmonic exciter I really enjoyed both of these. Thanks for the alt link as well. I haven't uploaded much at all recently but here's something I think you will enjoy: http://soundcloud.com/aneurythm/aneurythm-mixed-blessings
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http://neonshudder.bandcamp.com/ - my weird electronic-cyberpunk-wish-I-lived-in-blade-runner ep dealie is out I posted a track some time in the past month but now I have a sort of "EP" thing made up of 6 tracks I did recently as well as a couple of really old ones I threw on at the end as "bonus" tracks. If you just want to pass through I think broken english, echo transit and neurohexazine are the stronger songs but that's just my opinion after hearing them all a billion times. If you decide you don't hate it you can download it there too [0.00 is free for the first 200 downloads I think?] The Mechanical Hand fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jan 31, 2013 |
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