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Disco Godfather posted:Where do you people live? I only had one conservative Facebook "friend" (mom's cousin's husband or something), but he unfriended me because I kept making fun of him. Massachusetts.  To be fair, the worst offenders on my feed are from out of state.
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clockwork sundial posted:I've been reading this thread for a while now and haven't seen this mentioned: I can't comment on that per se, but I do know that the NRA has been more than just a hapless mook jumping on grenades for the gun manufacturers. Smith & Wesson, after some talks with the Clinton administration in the late 90s, agreed to retool their manufacturing in order to make weapons with more safety features, smaller magazine capacities, etc. The NRA caught wind of it and organized a boycott that annihilated forty percent of their sales. Leading them to a Yeah. Fake Edit: http://www.businessinsider.com/smith-and-wesson-almost-went-out-of-business-trying-to-do-the-right-thing-2013-1 Has the story, but I can't find the original Mother Jones article about it. Real Edit: Durr I spel gud. Acrophyte fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Feb 2, 2013 |
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clockwork sundial posted:
Or Beck really enjoys being a demagogue distraction for morons. He's a morning zoo shock jock to me, who is as bombastic as possible to get attention and money for all his hare-brained stunts. If you look at everything he does through the lens of a morning zoo promotional stunt, his behavior starts to make a lot more sense - and come off a lot more boring and mediocre too.
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Its hard to believe guys like Beck are true scam artists if only because, at some point, you'd think one of them would finally break down and admit it, or at least slip up in an obvious way. When they do slip up its in a lying for Jesus sort of way. They've conditioned themselves to reject objective truth because the alternative is to admit they've been utterly wrong about everything and by extension have wronged millions of their listeners. You don't have to be a conman to be a hypocrite.
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Whether or not scam artists really believe their schtick is irrelevant, what matters is that their main purpose in life is to fleece scared people out of their money while, in this case, simultaneously poisoning political discourse.
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Feb 2, 2013 18:44
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Beck admitted in an interview that he doesn't know how people believe the stuff he says or something to that effect, I'm sure someone has the link handy but I don't.
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Death Himself posted:Beck admitted in an interview that he doesn't know how people believe the stuff he says or something to that effect, I'm sure someone has the link handy but I don't. Of course, so he doesn't go all Alex Jones and start looking like a crazy man in an uncontrolled environment. I'm sure he'd go right back on his program and tell them he was just pulling wool over the interviewer's eyes, Colbert style.
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I just watched an Alex Jones vid after viewing the "Alex Jones is Bill Hicks!" theory page. Specifically, I watched this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlkAjKk_4f8&t=218s  I am so, so sorry for you in America. I am sorry for ya'll, as I have never been at any time in my life, and I have family there. Seriously, you guys need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.
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Feb 2, 2013 19:48
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 Cue the inevitable barrage of jokes about an armed black man.
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watt par posted:
Watch out NRA, Obama's coming to take away his own gun! ...actually, I'm pretty sure they'll probably treat it like the Onion article where Obama was talking about "gubmint ain't gonna take away my guns." "It's just as fake as his birth certificate!  "
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Mister Macys posted:I just watched an Alex Jones vid after viewing the "Alex Jones is Bill Hicks!" theory page. Someone put this video on dual youtube with moody war music and it makes it even more intense
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Jacobin posted:Someone put this video on dual youtube with moody war music and it makes it even more intense Personally, I prefer this Alex Jones dual Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgAXZHMi_ws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR2UXmTGK4M
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Jacobin posted:Someone put this video on dual youtube with moody war music and it makes it even more intense
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Alex and the talking goat! The first time I saw that I spent a solid five minutes watching it, laughing like hell. 
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Apropos of nothing, and in spite of his abhorrent policies, I feel compelled to say, "God drat we have a President who looks awesome with a shotgun." That's a loving cool picture.
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Jacobin posted:Someone put this video on dual youtube with moody war music and it makes it even more intense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feRD9qCJtM8 This is the best one.
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watt par posted:
So, gun people, is Obama doing anything "wrong" here? As a non-gun person myself, I picture non-gun person Republicans smugly pointing out that he can't be skeet shooting because he isn't aiming up.
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Dr Christmas posted:So, gun people, is Obama doing anything "wrong" here? He's just really, really quick.
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watt par posted:Cue the inevitable barrage of jokes about an armed black man. I can only imagine that this actually is the sole reason the picture was never released if it is in fact from last August. People said Obama had to worry about not looking like an angry black man, let alone an armed black man. Forget about firearms though, let's talk about the real guns in that picture 
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Dr Christmas posted:As a non-gun person myself, I picture non-gun person Republicans smugly pointing out that he can't be skeet shooting because he isn't aiming up. There's already articles like this up all over the place http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/30/obama-keet-shooting-all-time-hardly-sources-say/
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Good Citizen posted:There's already articles like this up all over the place Obama 'devours raw meat all the time'? Hardly ever, sources say. | Fox News
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The firearms industry has to be having an erection over this nonsense. "See, the president actually uses guns too." *posts free advertising image*
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Dr Christmas posted:So, gun people, is Obama doing anything "wrong" here? I probably wouldn't rest my cheek on the stock like that, and his right hand is maybe a bit far forward, but none of that is really a big deal. I don't think anyone expects Obama to be an experienced shooter, nor is that what the WH is trying to show, so you know, people flipping out over nothing as always.
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Dr Christmas posted:So, gun people, is Obama doing anything "wrong" here? I've only shot skeet a couple times but it looks like he's either shooting them as they come out of the launcher just to gently caress around or holding it in the basic standing position for a rifle or shotgun. So basically either he's a guy who just likes to dick around with a gun in the most safe and sport based method possible or he has enough understanding of it to know the basic positions to be in, hardly ground breaking either way but I'm sure there's some right winger who will try to make this the newest -gate.
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Glitterbomber posted:I've only shot skeet a couple times but it looks like he's either shooting them as they come out of the launcher just to gently caress around or holding it in the basic standing position for a rifle or shotgun. It's already been dubbed Skeetgate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYH7_GzP4Tg
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Radbot posted:It's already been dubbed Skeetgate. I can only pray we wind up in a 'teabag' situation when some right wingers start talking about Obama 'skeeting' wrong or whatever and give us a few laughs.
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Glitterbomber posted:I can only pray we wind up in a 'teabag' situation when some right wingers start talking about Obama 'skeeting' wrong or whatever and give us a few laughs. The probability of this happening is swiftly approaching 100%. "You know what's so dope about 'skeet'? White people don't know what it means yet."
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I've been catching up on some stuff, and to be honest the commercials I hear on the Alex Jones Show are like a seeping sludge of paranoia getting into my head. I can see why people like my mum live in constant fear- this is just a more overt version of general advertising. And all crazy aside, Jone's view is rooted in genuine grievances, broadly speaking; he's just wrong about where to put the anger. And also, he's insane or an amazing performer with superhuman stamina. EDIT: The notion that the common man is essentially powerless, subjugated by forces beyond his control, is indeed quite accurate. From that feeling come the conspiracies, even if no conspiracy is required to understand the situation. Also, he keeps using music I like on his show and that angers me. I have also been listening to the Young Turks, and I'm not sure how to feel about Cenk Uygur. I tend to agree with him on many issues, but his shouting "Of course!!" and general tone make me feel like he's rather unlikable. Plus he has been a bit of a dick to the female co-host on several occasions, good thing she called him on it. Sick_Boy fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Feb 3, 2013 |
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Sick_Boy posted:I have also been listening to the Young Turks, and I'm not sure how to feel about Cenk Uygur. I tend to agree with him on many issues, but his shouting "Of course!!" and general tone make me feel like he's rather unlikable. Plus he has been a bit of a dick to the female co-host on several occasions, good thing she called him on it. He's got all the smarm and self-righteousness of a college republican.
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Republicans posted:He's got all the smarm and self-righteousness of a college republican.
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Dr Christmas posted:So, gun people, is Obama doing anything "wrong" here? It's a very nice break action shotgun, which is considered the 'most proper' kind of shotgun for skeet, and god, with the porting and engraving, it's not cheap. More expensive than anything I see on a daily basis, far more so than the Berettas my parents have. Remember when Jon Stewart mocked Biden for referring to a Beretta shotgun? Yeah, no, that's what they make. Probably where Obama picked up the sport, if you ask me: trying to bond with Biden. Probably somewhere in the eight grand range, given that ring at the end of the barrel and certain other indications of quality. He has an _excellent_ cheek weld. His right hand is a little far forward, but it's acceptable. I can't see his legs, but it looks like the proper stance. Skeet and Trap are really a lot of fun, it's like playing home run derby with shotguns. Skeet tends to be one high and one low: the difference between Skeet and Trap is that skeet is two at a time, while trap is one at a time. But skeet is thrown in entirely predictable patterns: a blind person can shoot skeet. Trap is thrown in unpredictable patterns. The interesting thing is that he's shooting low, and from the first barrel. So, he's either not shooting a game of skeet, or he's shooting at station six or seven, which is the only time you'd shoot low first. From the arc of the cleared area, he _is_ towards the right of the field, which could place him at station 6 or 7, so it could be legit and simply the most photogenic situation. That's the best I can give you. Or he could just be legit shooting singles out of the low house for fun. Warcabbit fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Feb 3, 2013 |
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Warcabbit posted:He has an _excellent_ cheek weld. Well, I learned something today. Obama is doing something righter than I have been. Which makes a lot of sense now I think about it because he's gonna have people around him giving him pretty good instruction on that sort of thing. And yeah, that's a nice shotgun. Saw a thread somewhere where they were giving him poo poo because its a Japanese-made Browning instead of a proper American shotgun like a Mossberg (that has parts made in Mexico).
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HA! His gun is made by the same people who made my gun, then! No wonder the engraving looked oddly familiar. Hard to tell at that resolution. Mine's just a lot older and if I hit something... it's a Miroku. Hm. There is one more thing. That gold ring? I'm pretty sure that's the choke. He's only got one in. So he is shooting singles. Probably. I mean, you could shoot one barrel unchoked, but that'd be a bit odd. (My Miroku does not have an adjustable choke, so I forgot about that at first glance.) Warcabbit fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Feb 3, 2013 |
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Warcabbit posted:Mine's just a lot older and if I hit something... it's a Miroku.  You know, I bet he could go someplace really posh like Holland & Holland and get them to make a sweet custom for free. And that's why I'd make a terrible president.
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Republicans posted:He's got all the smarm and self-righteousness of a college republican. I've talked to him in writing before about a fairly ugly piece they did on his tv show and yeah, he doesn't think he can be wrong about anything.
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Warcabbit posted:
Man, my friend who shoots skeet and trap as a hobby thinks it's the most fun thing in the world to see how fast he can blast the target as it's leaving the box. I personally don't get it but apparently in the skeet/trap world it's A Thing so yea he could just be loving around with his fancy gun because why the hell not.
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az posted:I've talked to him in writing before about a fairly ugly piece they did on his tv show and yeah, he doesn't think he can be wrong about anything. Didn't he made a big deal about how he was fired for being TOO REAL for MSNBC?
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Sick_Boy posted:Didn't he made a big deal about how he was fired for being TOO REAL for MSNBC? Yeah. Upper management apparantly told him to tone it down because democrats on the hill were getting pissy about him coming after them and he didn't listen to them. While his numbers kept coming up very respectably and beating Fox, management shortly after asked him to take a pay raise and a bullshit off camera position, aka trying to get him off the air. He said no, which is respectable, and went back to TYT. Of course in the aftermath he was pretty smug about it but in this case I don't know that wasn't justified.
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Republicans posted:He's got all the smarm and self-righteousness of a college republican. I'm able to put up with him because after he got called on being a dick several times to his female co-anchor, he apologized to her during the program and changed his behavior. That and even if I don't agree with him, he often has some other people on that offer alternative points of view, and encourages them to speak up. I've also seen him change his mind on various topics over time. Some of his rants and his 'of courrrrse' get a little annoying, but there's a lot of thought and care that he and the others responsible for his show put into what they're doing - so I'm able to forgive the surface foibles. For an editorial show, they're a great deal better than pretty much anything on US cable TV. More importantly, they actually listen to their audience. az posted:Yeah. Upper management apparantly told him to tone it down because democrats on the hill were getting pissy about him coming after them and he didn't listen to them. While his numbers kept coming up very respectably and beating Fox, management shortly after asked him to take a pay raise and a bullshit off camera position, aka trying to get him off the air. He said no, which is respectable, and went back to TYT. Of course in the aftermath he was pretty smug about it but in this case I don't know that wasn't justified. He's not kidding about the fact that if you want to play the cable news game, you have kiss the toes of various groups - and also can't bite the hand that feeds you. His youtube show offers a level of freedom for journalism and editorial comment that you really can't get on cable news at all. Shows like TYT represent the future of news and editorial programming - on youtube, and generally not be beholden to corporate or political interests. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Feb 3, 2013 |
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Republicans posted:He's got all the smarm and self-righteousness of a college republican. Because he was one.
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