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It doesn't *seem* to be on Daily Motion from my searching. I will fully admit that I might be looking at the wrong search terms, but I've tired several sets of what I figure would be the right keywords. Mostly I seem to be getting the match itself from the PPV before that, or the build up of the Stephanie/Trish feud that it was a part of.
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Jerusalem posted:I always find it odd on Smackdown when they cut to a wide shot of the audience with the entranceway in view, usually at the moment they're expecting a giant pop/people to be jumping to their feet, and the people clearly aren't reacting (to the extent that the audio makes it appear they are). Since it is a taped show, I always figured if they didn't get the,"YEAAAAHHHH!" reaction they were looking for they could just use a different camera angle so it isn't quite as obvious audio-sweetening. The People's Elbow flourish started, I believe, when Rock was corporate champion and McMahon's stooge. It was for cheap heat. Then people started popping for it because Rock is Rock. So they started treating it like a real finishing move. It was the Five-Knuckle-Shuffle of its day, really. People have always hated it, but there was a time when NOBODY kicked out of it, so like any move that gets gravitas from booking, it was pretty much fine for everybody who isn't a huge pedant like myself. And Will Sasso wrestled Bret on Nitro because Sasso was a giant wrestling fan and WCW did a crossover angle. Sasso supposedly "went off script" in a skit on Mad TV with Bret Hart, making him look kind of stupid. He then yelled, "You wanna' write stuff into the scrupt, Sasso? Write this into the script!" and attacked Sasso with a plastic folding chair. The next Nitro, Sasso just randomly came out for a match and Tony and the announcers basically just recapped what had happened. It received zero promotion and did nothing for anybody. That Nitro was also notable for being the debut of Blitzkreig, a masked wrestler whose biggest accomplishment is being remembered fondly despite only having about ten televised matches because his flippy-dos were so awesome. He also had a condition WCW.com called "photo reflexes", which was probably just Chad Damiani making up bullshit.
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LividLiquid posted:That Nitro was also notable for being the debut of Blitzkreig, a masked wrestler whose biggest accomplishment is being remembered fondly despite only having about ten televised matches because his flippy-dos were so awesome. He also had a condition WCW.com called "photo reflexes", which was probably just Chad Damiani making up bullshit. Seriously? I remember a good dozen or so matches with Blitzkrieg, so I'm probably forgetting some too. But yeah, his flippyshit was awesome, especially when he teamed with La Parka.
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LividLiquid posted:
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poo poo, I used to tune into Nitro *just* to see Blitzkrieg. That dude was insane.
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I'm partial to the Owen Hart tribute match that Bret and Benoit had on Nitro when it comes to his great matches. And yes, Blitzkrieg is totally awesome. His match with Juvi at Spring Stampede 1999 is kinda neat even if it seems like Juvi is being a dick on purpose, and he absolutely murders Blitzkrieg with a Juvidriver from the top turnbuckle. edit: if you guys want I could put all his matches up on youtube. Maybe make a little WCW Luchadors thread with all the lesser known guys.
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WCW Luchadores thread would be my favourite thread of all time.
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MrBling posted:I'm partial to the Owen Hart tribute match that Bret and Benoit had on Nitro when it comes to his great matches. Spring Stampede is the last truly great WCW PPV. It was pretty awesome from opener to main event. It also has DDP winning his first title.
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bobkatt013 posted:Spring Stampede is the last truly great WCW PPV. It was pretty awesome from opener to main event. It also has DDP winning his first title.
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Flare_knight posted:It doesn't *seem* to be on Daily Motion from my searching. I will fully admit that I might be looking at the wrong search terms, but I've tired several sets of what I figure would be the right keywords. Mostly I seem to be getting the match itself from the PPV before that, or the build up of the Stephanie/Trish feud that it was a part of. If you still can't find it tomorrow I'll rip it and find a way to get it to you.
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LividLiquid posted:I was at that show, and it was incredible. The main event finish made zero sense, but I saw DDP turn heel to win his first title, and I got to see Blitzkreig wrestle Juvi live. It was rad. When did WCW's main events ever make sense?
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bobkatt013 posted:When did WCW's main events ever make sense? Goldberg defeating Hogan at the Georgiadome.
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I'm just going through the videos and in his first match the on-screen graphics read "Blitzcreig". A literal lol was had.
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LividLiquid posted:
The worst crossover between a Sketch Show and Wrestling was Carlos Mencia and Edge on Mind of Mencia. 
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MrBling posted:I'm partial to the Owen Hart tribute match that Bret and Benoit had on Nitro when it comes to his great matches. Offering a resounding "hell yes" for this. Maybe a general WCW's cool midcarders thread, since apparently some pretty good talent went underutilized there.
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MrBling posted:I'm partial to the Owen Hart tribute match that Bret and Benoit had on Nitro when it comes to his great matches. Do that. Please do both of those things.
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LvK posted:Offering a resounding "hell yes" for this. Maybe a general WCW's cool midcarders thread, since apparently some pretty good talent went underutilized there. You say some and you mean all.
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does anyone know which Ric Flair/Ricky Steamboat match(es) is/are generally considered their best?
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bobkatt013 posted:Spring Stampede is the last truly great WCW PPV. It was pretty awesome from opener to main event. It also has DDP winning his first title. The last great WCW PPV was their final PPV, Greed. It is a great show. There wasn't a single good show between Spring Stampede 99 and Greed 2001 though.
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Cardboard Box posted:does anyone know which Ric Flair/Ricky Steamboat match(es) is/are generally considered their best? The generally accepted answer to this is the 1989 trilogy in Crockett, all of which are across the board rated as ***** matches including by the Meltz. In order that would be Chi-Town Rumble in February, Clash of the Champions VI: Rajin' Cajun in April, and WrestleWar 89: Music City Showdown in May. Flair and Steamboat have both said that their best matches were actually on house shows that weren't taped for broadcast (although fancams exist), and Meltzer once gave a Flair/Steamboat house show match *****1/2+ (not a typo).
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I'll have to see if I can find those matches, then. thanks!
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Cardboard Box posted:does anyone know which Ric Flair/Ricky Steamboat match(es) is/are generally considered their best?
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Cardboard Box posted:I'll have to see if I can find those matches, then. thanks! You can find all three on the The Ultimate Ric Flair Collection, Steamboat DVD, and Rise and Fall of WCW
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Halloween Jack posted:I'd love to get an enthusiast's opinion regarding Flair/Race, as well. Everything that's available is good or better, but there isn't anything at the level of Flair/Steamboat matches and there isn't a lot available.
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I liked the Starrcade 83 cage match because it culminated Race's last (real) reign as NWA champ with the bounty angle, but it has Kiniski as ref and a really lovely finish.
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jeffersonlives posted:Flair and Steamboat have both said that their best matches were actually on house shows that weren't taped for broadcast (although fancams exist), and Meltzer once gave a Flair/Steamboat house show match *****1/2+ (not a typo). Which to me is still the funniest thing ever.
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CVagts posted:I liked the Starrcade 83 cage match because it culminated Race's last (real) reign as NWA champ with the bounty angle, but it has Kiniski as ref and a really lovely finish. Fuckin' Harley Race. Halloween Jack posted:I'd love to get an enthusiast's opinion regarding Flair/Race, as well. I really loved the poo poo out of the match that has the Double Chickenwing Submission and ends with Flair getting pinned JUST before time expires but he has his foot on the ropes. edit: the Rajun' Cajun' one. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Feb 4, 2013 |
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jeffersonlives posted:Flair and Steamboat have both said that their best matches were actually on house shows that weren't taped for broadcast (although fancams exist), and Meltzer once gave a Flair/Steamboat house show match *****1/2+ (not a typo).
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bartok posted:
WCW: Pretty random and a waste of Bret Hart's talent & time
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What was the general consensus of the Attitude-era midcard back in the day? I know that the midcard that immediately followed (02-04) is pretty widely regarded as one of the best ever, but I've been curious what the opinion was about guys like Venis, Shamrock, Taka, D'lo, Godfather, Gangrel, Blackman, etc... not really the guys who went on to become big names in their own right. I just started watching the attitude era again for the first time since the first go around, and back in the day when I was living through it I really hated Val Venis but loved guys like Taka, D'lo, and Gangrel. Looking back on it now Taka and D'lo hold up pretty well, but Gangrel was kinda lame and as much as I hated Val Venis when I was younger(I thought his gimmick was stupid) I now realize he was a pretty solid wrestler.
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I remember that MAD TV episode being really uncomfortable to watch. Bret is just not that great at those sorts of things to begin with, but when they start having him attacking Sasso 'for real' the tone of the entire thing switches. Wrestling angles outside of a wrestling situation are always so bizarre, because non-fans never know how to react to them.
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triplexpac posted:WCW: Pretty random and a waste of Bret Hart's talent & time "Hey, we got one of the biggest celebrities from Canada now on our roster and we're paying him millions of dollars. He could draw 15,000 in an arena anywhere in Canada right now and due to a very low dollar, we could jack up the prices and Canadians will still pay for it. Let's not run in Canada at all in 1998."
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Question: In shoot interviews, Dustin Runnels said that he wasn't enthusiastic about the Goldust gimmick, and took it because he needed work--but now it defines his career, and it seems that he's only enthusiastic about wrestling when he's doing Goldust--he's done a couple "Goldust, only darker" gimmicks in other promotions and it never worked out. Are there any other examples of someone taking a gimmick they didn't even care about and not only making it work, but making it their own and building their career around it? (I have no idea how enthusiastic Mark Calloway was when he first got the Undertaker gimmick.) LightsGameraAction posted:What was the general consensus of the Attitude-era midcard back in the day? I know that the midcard that immediately followed (02-04) is pretty widely regarded as one of the best ever, but I've been curious what the opinion was about guys like Venis, Shamrock, Taka, D'lo, Godfather, Gangrel, Blackman, etc... not really the guys who went on to become big names in their own right.
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Taker loved the gimmick from what I recall. He's big into occult/fantasy stuff. Or was at the time.
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Taker loved the gimmick from what I recall. He's big into occult/fantasy stuff. Or was at the time. I wonder if he ever had an airbrushed van.
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LightsGameraAction posted:What was the general consensus of the Attitude-era midcard back in the day? I know that the midcard that immediately followed (02-04) is pretty widely regarded as one of the best ever, but I've been curious what the opinion was about guys like Venis, Shamrock, Taka, D'lo, Godfather, Gangrel, Blackman, etc... not really the guys who went on to become big names in their own right.
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I Before E posted:I wonder if he ever had an airbrushed van. Taker's last match needs to feature a Rush cover of his theme song.
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Taker loved the gimmick from what I recall. He's big into occult/fantasy stuff. Or was at the time. I think he didn't mind the gimmick but the stories I've heard are that Vince loved it and Taker wanted the job. Which It's obvious how you would explain Undertakers gimmick and make it sound cool but I can't wrap my mind around how they explained Goldusts to him. "We want you to be like.. your all.. dusted in gold. And creepy and aggressively confusing sexually." "..." "Like Marilyn Manson but golder." "..."
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flashy_mcflash posted:Taker's last match needs to feature a Rush cover of his theme song. Honestly, the first mental image I got was Taker, Kane, Mankind, and Paul Bearer playing D&D in a basement, with Bearer as DM.
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It's hard to put the Goldust gimmick into words. If anyone was to ask, the only response would be "Well it's...Goldust."
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