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SirPhoebos posted:I guess it depends on the scene, but I just got to the part where Lu Bu goes to him for refuge and literally the first thing Liu Bei does is offer him control of the province. It may also be that this is what was supposed to pass for "good guy" behavior in the time of the time that the "modern" incarnation of RTK (the Máo Lún and Máo Zōnggāng edit in the 1660s of the "original" 1330-1400 RTK by Luo Guanzhong)... but that we would view it as either ridiculous or, in my case, with an ulterior motive. Also, Sparking!!! 2659 CHAIN 
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Lu Bu doesn't even threaten him. His first words to him are "Hey, how would you like to be Imperial Protector? Here's the official seal and everything! 
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Policenaut posted:Oh come on, the total body count in some shows is ridiculous. They destroyed dozens of MSs in some episodes of Gundam 00, Victory, and Wing, and then there's earlier series' that get into war scenes that have huge off-screen body counts. A Baoa Qu, Titans Colony Laser, Neo Zeon's Axis, just to name a few. There's a bunch of war scenes where a ton of mobile suits get trashed off screen, presumably because having Amuro shoot down Zaku III's for 10 minutes on the way to fight Char would be pretty boring. That's why you get stuff like Kai and Hayate trying to defend White Base and they cut to them going "OH MAN THERE'S TOO MANY OF THEM!" Are we making cases for licenses that would be well-suited for Musou adaptations?  
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StevenM posted:Are we making cases for licenses that would be well-suited for Musou adaptations?
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After spending a few days with Miiverse I would totally be down for a Musou game where I kill people on Miiverse.
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One of the sword minigames in Wii Sports Resort is pretty much Wii Musou. It's pretty fun.
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U.T. Raptor posted:One of the sword minigames in Wii Sports Resort is pretty much Wii Musou. It's actually the basis for Zelda Battle Quest in Nintendo Land as well. But your movement is controlled by the game so it's pretty restricted, and you're generally fighting no more than three... maybe five enemies at a time. There's potential there.
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10 minute presentation on One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 at Taipei Game Show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OT9vWODxgQ Also the Tecmo Koei Japanese Twitter is saying that there's going to be "big news" about Dynasty Warriors 8 this week. I can't imagine they would put that out there for more characters so maybe a new feature?
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One Piece: Pirate Warriors goes on sale tomorrow on the North American PSN. Game will be 25 dollars and the DLC pack (whatever that means) will be 7.50. Sale will last a month.
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Another neat thing about Dynasty Warriors 8 came out today through Tecmo Koei's Japanese Twitter (If I'm understanding/Google Translating it right): DW8 apparently has a "fixed processing rate" of 60 fps and hovers around 45-60 drawn fps. As long as it doesn't have that weird slowdown DW7 has then I'm happy.Belzac posted:One Piece: Pirate Warriors goes on sale tomorrow on the North American PSN. Koei you MOTHER FUCKERS god drat it. That's the same loving day Ken's Rage 2 comes out and I only have $60! Well poo poo I guess $25 is worth putting up with, guess I'll forget about buying the Skyrim DLC and plunk down for Pirate Warriors 1.
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Policenaut posted:Koei you MOTHER FUCKERS god drat it. That's the same loving day Ken's Rage 2 comes out and I only have $60! Well poo poo I guess $25 is worth putting up with, guess I'll forget about buying the Skyrim DLC and plunk down for Pirate Warriors 1. Bandai Namco is doing the sale actually. Place your hate in the right people.
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Belzac posted:Bandai Namco is doing the sale actually. Place your hate in the right people. Sorry, it all kind of melds into one Musou melange after awhile. God drat you Bamco.
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The only thing I care about DW8 is that thanks to Ling Tong's new weapon, I'll be able to play The 36th Chamber of the Shaolin: The Videogame. Also, this is pretty funny Tumblr posted:So Zhuge Dan’s new weapon is the stick he had crammed up his rear end.
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That framerate news is heartening. I was recently reminded that DW7 actually had a pretty cool story mode. So now I'm really looking forward to seeing what they do with it in DW8. I don't think they've shown any of that off yet.
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tooooooo bad posted:That framerate news is heartening. They've said it will have "what if" scenarios. That's about it. I hope they go crazy and don't do the easy things.
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Also that for a stage you can choose which character you want to use, out of like three, instead of being forced into using one specific character. Like for Hefei on the Wei side I'd imagine you'd get the choice of using either Zhang Liao, Yue Jin, or Li Dian instead of just being locked into Zhang Liao.
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Trafalgar Law and Smoker are confirmed playable in One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 
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Man Law sure has risen from humble beginnings of a ten minute throw-it-in. Edit: According to the katakana they're gonna do the Punk Hazard arc and not just throw them in as characters. Nice.
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This is great news. Law so far has been a ton more fun in the story than I originally thought he'd be. I'm already getting my wallet ready for this sequel.
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How's Kens Rage 2? Any good buzz from the jpn version?StevenM posted:Are we making cases for licenses that would be well-suited for Musou adaptations?
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Honest Thief posted:How's Kens Rage 2? Any good buzz from the jpn version? Would Cacofonix be the only one with a friendly-fire mechanic, then?
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I'm in the middle of volume 51 right now (wow did Thriller Bark suck) and I just met Trafalgar Law, and so far I'm really hopeful that he'll be cool. From the way you guys talk (and that one of you has him as an avatar) I'm guessing Law is super cool in some way. Can't wait to see how this pans out. Volume 60 is where Pirate Warriors 1 ends right? If so then I'm gonna blitz through the rest of the volumes today.Honest Thief posted:How's Kens Rage 2? Any good buzz from the jpn version? From what I've read and played of the Japanese version, Ken's Rage 2 fixes a lot of the problems with the story mode and introduces a bunch of new features while simultaneously scaling back certain things. Some characters have simplified move sets, some are DLC or something, but from what I'm reading Ken's Rage 2 is basically what Ken's Rage 1 should have been. So Koei pretty much made KR1 as the prototype game as everyone expected. If you have a PS3, you can download the demo from Japan or Hong Kong's PSNs. It's in Japanese but if you play Warriors games then you'll figure it out. edit: If you didn't like Ken's Rage 1 to some degree then you probably won't like 2 very much, the basic combat's faster and such and they took out jumping but its the same idea as before. Policenaut fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Feb 5, 2013 |
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I wasn't sure that Law would be the Supernova that I wanted to be fleshed out into a full character but they've developed him well and he's an enjoyable enough character with an interesting power. Plus he has his own  den den mushi / transponder snail. The exciting thing is that Law and Punk Hazard being in means that the game is going right up to where the story is right now. Assuming they clean up the gameplay itself, I think a new OPPW game every year or two with a "here's the new arc, and we've fleshed out some of the older stuff and added more characters" type deal would be pretty awesome.
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Jibo posted:I wasn't sure that Law would be the Supernova that I wanted to be fleshed out into a full character but they've developed him well and he's an enjoyable enough character with an interesting power. Plus he has his own Now all I want is a version on the Xbox...
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Honest Thief posted:How's Kens Rage 2? Any good buzz from the jpn version? I've spent the last few hours playing the U.S. release, and my feelings are actually kind of mixed. On the one hand, the core gameplay is massively improved, making the whole thing feel faster, smoother, and generally better all around. On the other, they removed Focus attacks (a mechanic I thought was pretty neat), the Meridian Chart (which I really liked), and the English voice acting. Also, one of the levels was basically a giant stealth mission. Overall, it's much better, and if you enjoyed the first you'll probably enjoy the second, but it's not without its disappointments.
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Haha, a stealth mission in a Musou game. Well, come to think of it, Orochi 3 kinda did, where you have to free the captives and if one of the messengers sees you he runs off and you have to kill him, or else you have to...fight people? I never found out what happened if you blow it. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Feb 5, 2013 |
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Without even having played the game yet, let me guess. Is the stealth mission Mamiya's adventure to Medicine City? Because if that's actually in the game then Tecmo Koei gave that character their one moment in the sun and somehow botched it. vvv Oh then that's not actually all that bad then. Policenaut fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Feb 5, 2013 |
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It was inflitrating Southern Cross. It's not a very hard stealth mission (the guards only have about a 90 degree cone of sight, which is visible on the minimap), and the consequences for being seen are just a fight and a penalty to your rank, but still. A stealth mission.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Haha, a stealth mission in a Musou game. I sort of remember one in 5XL. You played as Wei Yan and have to follow Zhuge Liang's plans perfectly, or else all of Shu withdraws and it's you vs. all of Wei. One of Zhuge's missions is to sneak up on a camp without aggroing any mooks. Also in the Orochi 3 mission, people don't join you and you have to murder Yuan Shao too instead of just Dong Zhuo in that one. Enemy messengers are suicidal, hit me, and got countered by a high level Da Ji I was carting around for the Exp boost. 1-shotted. It's not auto fail. Basically Musuo games do stealth missions right in a way - if you suck at sneaking or following the plans, you have a chance to brute force your way out.
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'Stealth' is the last game mechanic a musou game should ever try to indulge in. Where they shine for me (and I suspect I'm not alone) are with missions that are like the highest difficulty ones available in DW7's conquest mode- maps with 3 to 5000 grunts and every loving general in the game gunning for you.
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There was stealth stuff in SW2 during Survival Mode where you had to avoid being spotted by guards as well. You had to play through some of them in one of Mitsuhide's requests in the path that unlocked Ranmaru.
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5er posted:'Stealth' is the last game mechanic a musou game should ever try to indulge in. Where they shine for me (and I suspect I'm not alone) are with missions that are like the highest difficulty ones available in DW7's conquest mode- maps with 3 to 5000 grunts and every loving general in the game gunning for you. That mission where it's you against everybody else in the entire game and then Lu Bu shows up at the end 
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Pre-order Dynasty Warriors 7 Empires in Europe and get some free costume DLC.
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Speaking of Mamiya, the fact that the game took a character who, in the original manga, served as an object example of the tragedy and futility of women trying to fight by screwing up everything she did and constantly getting bailed out by a big strong man, and turned her into death on two legs never fails to give me a warm fuzzy glow. Seriousvly, even by the standards of '80s manga, North Star was reactionary as gently caress.
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Ugh, Ken's Rage 2 is 60 dollars on the PSN. What the hell happened to Warriors Orochi 3 at $50, Koei?
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Schubalts posted:That mission where it's you against everybody else in the entire game and then Lu Bu shows up at the end
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I never played 6, only 6: Empires. But that sounds like a team of people! The DW7 mission is you completely alone.
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Chortles posted:Isn't DW6 Hulao Gate also Lü Bu, Zhang Liao, Diaochan and Chen Gong versus everyone else? If you're talking about the one where it's Lu Bu and co. vs every kingdom simultaneously, plus zombie Zhang Jiao, Yuan Shao, and Dong Zhuo, that's Lu Bu's last musou mission from 6. I think he's talking about that Conquest Mode stage from 7 where you fight all the other kingdoms, plus Lu Bu at the end.
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Policenaut posted:Ugh, Ken's Rage 2 is 60 dollars on the PSN. What the hell happened to Warriors Orochi 3 at $50, Koei? You do however get all the dlc for free.
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Selane posted:If you're talking about the one where it's Lu Bu and co. vs every kingdom simultaneously, plus zombie Zhang Jiao, Yuan Shao, and Dong Zhuo, that's Lu Bu's last musou mission from 6. Yeah, that mission nets you Red Hare when you complete it. At least in the most recent iteration, whatever 'stealth' parts there have been are pretty inoffensive, though that's not the same as actually being good.
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randombattle posted:You do however get all the dlc for free. That's true, I just kinda kneejerked because I was really expecting the game to launch at $50 so I could just grab another $20 card and pick up One Piece: Pirate Warriors. The DLC is pretty sweet, as the Ken's Rage original costumes kinda suck compared to the manga ones. In other news god drat does it take forever to download this game.
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