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kuddles
Jul 16, 2006

Like a fist wrapped in blood...

Monkeyseesaw posted:

kuddles, I'm not quite sure how you could properly explain how Minority Report subverted its product placement while in the exact same post missing the same technique in Community. There's not an either/or here. It's both effective product placement AND subversive narrative of same.
I never said that it must be either/or. I just mentioned that those scenes in Minority Report were supposed to make the ads feel intrusive, and then countered against someone who claimed that the Subway episode wasn't intentional product placement. Whether you think either works as "satire" is up for debate, but frankly I think that debate is growing increasingly unlikely, as the amount of media at this point that has gladly accepted product placement money while claiming to be subversive about it has been ridiculously high. In Community's case, aside from in my opinion of it being a rather unfunny episode in general, it wasn't like the creators decided to write the episode first and confirm the brand later, or being forced to do it and turning it into something that would piss the company off, but rather they accepted the deal with the company and made 22 minutes of people constantly talking about the brand, mentioning the slogan and eating the food, with some random jokes thrown in - in an episode that never would have been ever conceived otherwise.

kuddles fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Feb 3, 2013

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Egbert Souse posted:

Netflix added a lot of Kino Lorber stuff...

Three Ages (Buster Keaton) - HD
The Sacrifice (Andrei Tarkovosky) - HD
L'age D'or (Luis Bunuel)
Man with a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov)
The Man From Beyond (starring Harry Houdini)
They Made Me a Fugitive (Alberto Calvalcanti)
Fantomas (Louis Feulliade - 5 part serial)
Abraham Lincoln (D.W. Griffith, starring Walter Huston) - HD
Headin' Home (starring Babe Ruth)
Asphalt (Joe May)
The Hands of Orlac (Robert Wiene, starring Conrad Veidt) - HD
One Arabian Night (Ernst Lubitsch)
I Don't Want to be a Man (Ernst Lubitsch)
The Wildcat (Ernst Lubitsch)
Anna Boylen (Ernst Lubitsch)
The Doll (Ernst Lubitsch)
Siegfried (Fritz Lang) - HD
The Struggle (D.W. Griffith - his last film) - HD
This owns like hell. I wanna single out Fantomas, The Sacrifice, Asphalt and The Man With The Movie Camera.

Dr Monkeysee
Oct 11, 2002

just a fox like a hundred thousand others
Nap Ghost

kuddles posted:

I never said that it must be either/or. I just mentioned that those scenes in Minority Report were supposed to make the ads feel intrusive, and then countered against someone who claimed that the Subway episode wasn't intentional product placement. Whether you think either works as "satire" is up for debate, but frankly I think that debate is growing increasingly unlikely, as the amount of media at this point that has gladly accepted product placement money while claiming to be subversive about it has been ridiculously high. In Community's case, aside from in my opinion of it being a rather unfunny episode in general, it wasn't like the creators decided to write the episode first and confirm the brand later, or being forced to do it and turning it into something that would piss the company off, but rather they accepted the deal with the company and made 22 minutes of people constantly talking about the brand, mentioning the slogan and eating the food, with some random jokes thrown in - in an episode that never would have been ever conceived otherwise.

I'm positive that's how the Community episode came about. Product placement is almost by definition foisted upon the writers unwillingly. Not sure why that means their particular take on it isn't satirical. You seem to be saying the Minority Report usage is somehow less effective placement because the particular subversion was to make them intrusive instead of over-the-top silly but I don't see any difference at all. The respective brands still got significant and prominent screen time while the audience got to feel like they're in on the joke. Welcome to media subversion in capitalism! It's more bark than bite.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Has it been mentioned yet that Sergei Eisenstein's Strike is now available as well?

Also, Harakiri, but there's an error. Netflix lists it as the 1962 film by Kobayashi, but it's actually Fritz Lang's 1919 silent of the same name.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~
Ferris Bueller's Day Off is now on Instant Watch. If you haven't seen it yet, go do so. It's one of the better coming-of-age films I've seen, and is really funny to boot. I'm sure someone else can better describe why it's such a great movie, but do yourself a favor and watch it.

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Ferris Bueller's Day Off is now on Instant Watch. If you haven't seen it yet, go do so. It's one of the better coming-of-age films I've seen, and is really funny to boot. I'm sure someone else can better describe why it's such a great movie, but do yourself a favor and watch it.

It's got Matthew Broderick as the confident and quite possibly insane Ferris on the day he decides to skip a second ninth day of high school, Mia Sara as his unbelievably hot girlfriend Sloane, and Alan Ruck as his dysfunctional best friend Cameron Frye, who doesn't think he's seen anything good today.

Also featuring Jeffrey Jones as the obsessed dean of students Ed Rooney, Charlie Sheen as a drug addict, and Ben Stein as Ben Stein.

The movie was made in 1986. It's 27 years old and still funny. Just watch it.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer

Bertrand Hustle posted:

It's got Matthew Broderick as the confident and quite possibly insane Ferris on the day he decides to skip a second ninth day of high school, Mia Sara as his unbelievably hot girlfriend Sloane, and Alan Ruck as his dysfunctional best friend Cameron Frye, who doesn't think he's seen anything good today.

Also featuring Jeffrey Jones as the obsessed dean of students Ed Rooney, Charlie Sheen as a drug addict, and Ben Stein as Ben Stein.

The movie was made in 1986. It's 27 years old and still funny. Just watch it.

And once you watch it, read up on the Ferris Doesn't Exist theory and watch it again.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

Bertrand Hustle posted:

It's got Matthew Broderick as the confident and quite possibly insane Ferris on the day he decides to skip a second ninth day of high school, Mia Sara as his unbelievably hot girlfriend Sloane, and Alan Ruck as his dysfunctional best friend Cameron Frye, who doesn't think he's seen anything good today.

Also featuring Jeffrey Jones as the obsessed dean of students Ed Rooney, Charlie Sheen as a drug addict, and Ben Stein as Ben Stein.

The movie was made in 1986. It's 27 years old and still funny. Just watch it.

I always like to pair this movie with 'Election' and imagine a beat down Ferris Bueller stuck as a history teacher in Nebraska.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

Bertrand Hustle posted:

It's got Matthew Broderick as the confident and quite possibly insane Ferris on the day he decides to skip a second ninth day of high school, Mia Sara as his unbelievably hot girlfriend Sloane, and Alan Ruck as his dysfunctional best friend Cameron Frye, who doesn't think he's seen anything good today.

Also featuring Jeffrey Jones as the obsessed dean of students Ed Rooney, Charlie Sheen as a drug addict, and Ben Stein as Ben Stein.

The movie was made in 1986. It's 27 years old and still funny. Just watch it.

My question is this. How has someone been alive for more than say, 15 years and not already seen this movie.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

veedubfreak posted:

My question is this. How has someone been alive for more than say, 15 years and not already seen this movie.

I've met people who've never seen Star Wars before.

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!

veedubfreak posted:

My question is this. How has someone been alive for more than say, 15 years and not already seen this movie.

Reading these last few posts, that was my exact same thought. But then my own counter to myself was:

Iron Crowned posted:

I've met people who've never seen Star Wars before.

Which is totally true.

But at I'm pretty sure everybody knows what a light saber is and has heard the infamous "Bueller..." at least once in their life. Right?

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:


But at I'm pretty sure everybody knows what a light saber is and has heard the infamous "Bueller..." at least once in their life. Right?

a random movie from the 80s is nowhere near the cultural impact of Star Wars. I mean granted it was something like the Ratatouille of 1987 but it's very much stuck in the era it was made in.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

veedubfreak posted:

My question is this. How has someone been alive for more than say, 15 years and not already seen this movie.

I overheard some college freshmen the other day trying to remember the name of the guy who was married to Sarah Jessica Parker. Finally one of them said "he was Inspector Gadget" which apparently jogged a memory as another finally came up with "Matthew Broderick".

Really makes you feel old to know that their entire frame of reference is a good 15+ years removed from your own. They only know him as Inspector Gadget.

tl;dr - people age, as do cultural touchstones

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

tl;dr - people age, as do cultural touchstones

So basically what you're saying is that Inspector Gadget was a cultural touchstone... :psyduck:

Well, it could've been worse. They could've said "he was on that Two and a Half Men show". Then you could've stepped in and said "Ferris Bueller is not Duckie", and things would've gotten really awkward.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Warner Bros. is starting their own streaming service, Warner Archive Instant. It's in beta, but they seem to have a form you can fill out for updates.

It's looking really good so far - not the entire library is up, but a quick skim shows films like A Face in the Crowd, Gun Crazy, Freaks, Until the End of the World, Day For Night, Blow-Up, and The Loved One all in HD. Lots of others in SD and HD. I'd imagine there's a lot of others to be added eventually.

FYI, Warner's library includes nearly all films with their namesake (other than the odd distributor-only films like Rope and Hondo), almost all Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer before 1986, RKO Radio Pictures, Allied Artists, plus distribution rights to Samuel Goldwyn Films. This could go places.

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Feb 5, 2013

doug fuckey
Jun 7, 2007

hella greenbacks
The Loved One is super weird and funny and dark. Can't wait to check that one again.

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!

Egbert Souse posted:

Warner Bros. is starting their own streaming service...

I'm glad to see this seems to be a growing trend, and am looking forward to being able to just pay for the individual streaming services I want as opposed to a cable bill (which I haven't had in 4 years).

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

I'm glad to see this seems to be a growing trend, and am looking forward to being able to just pay for the individual streaming services I want as opposed to a cable bill (which I haven't had in 4 years).

You're excited to see a 'competitive', fractured market where every studio and TV network and website has a subscription streaming service? You'll still be paying the cable or FIOS company money, plus 5+ streaming services. We'll howl for the days of Netflix supremacy at $8/month

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!

big business sloth posted:

The Loved One is super weird and funny and dark. Can't wait to check that one again.

Isn't it? It's also gorgeously shot. I discovered it a couple months ago thanks to a conversation my mother had (and relayed to me) with a customer where he mentioned it, and then it was on TCM the next week. I really didn't know where it was going to go for quite a while.

Egbert Souse posted:

Warner Bros. is starting their own streaming service, Warner Archive Instant. It's in beta, but they seem to have a form you can fill out for updates.

Oh poo poo will I soon finally get to finish Brewster McCloud without paying $30 for a DVD-R? That'd be nice.

Wonder how much they'll integrate it with TCM, probably with a link on the website at least.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

Egbert Souse posted:

Warner Bros. is starting their own streaming service, Warner Archive Instant. It's in beta, but they seem to have a form you can fill out for updates.

It's looking really good so far - not the entire library is up, but a quick skim shows films like A Face in the Crowd, Gun Crazy, Freaks, Until the End of the World, Day For Night, Blow-Up, and The Loved One all in HD. Lots of others in SD and HD. I'd imagine there's a lot of others to be added eventually.

FYI, Warner's library includes nearly all films with their namesake (other than the odd distributor-only films like Rope and Hondo), almost all Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer before 1986, RKO Radio Pictures, Allied Artists, plus distribution rights to Samuel Goldwyn Films. This could go places.

Oh drat this looks great for lovers of classic films. Is there any way to get an invite code?

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!

Ammanas posted:

You're excited to see a 'competitive', fractured market where every studio and TV network and website has a subscription streaming service? You'll still be paying the cable or FIOS company money, plus 5+ streaming services. We'll howl for the days of Netflix supremacy at $8/month

... Yes?

I already pay a cable bill, no big deal there. If I could have streaming services right now it probably wouldn't be more than 3 or 4 services that I would actually want (basing it on the 3 or 4 currently existing channels I am actually interested in). I can't justify paying a full cable bill price for 200 channels when I only want to watch those 3 or 4. However, I'd gladly pay 10 bucks (or whatever) a month for a single channel like Discovery or something.

So yeah, let me legitimately pay for the entertainment that I want and not for the stuff I don't want.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
That is COMMUNISM sir! With perhaps a touch of socialism too! I am reporting you to the corpse of Joseph McCarthy for a spanking and perhaps going to bed with no dessert biscuits.

MadRhetoric
Feb 18, 2011

I POSSESS QUESTIONABLE TASTE IN TOUHOU GAMES

computer parts posted:

a random movie from the 80s is nowhere near the cultural impact of Star Wars. I mean granted it was something like the Ratatouille of 1987 but it's very much stuck in the era it was made in.

Ferris Bueller is a little better than a random movie from the 80s. You could also make the same argument about the original Star Wars trilogy; to people who only know the modern sequels the original trilogy are three random movies that share the same name.

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?
Just in case you havn't seen it, Trading Places was added this month. It's a great comedy with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, and they both absolutely kill it.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
Primer was added back to Netflix. It's an interesting time travel flick that reminds me of Pi with its indie low budget production.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



JohnSherman posted:

Just in case you havn't seen it, Trading Places was added this month. It's a great comedy with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, and they both absolutely kill it.

Yeah, we watched it this weekend and it's still an amazingly good comedy. They just don't make 'em like they used to.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

mod sassinator posted:

Primer was added back to Netflix. It's an interesting time travel flick that reminds me of Pi with its indie low budget production.

Everyone should watch this movie.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Seems like The Thing (the Kurt Russell one) is also streaming now. Could've sworn it wasn't a few weeks ago! Fantastic movie.

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro

Der Shovel posted:

Seems like The Thing (the Kurt Russell one) is also streaming now. Could've sworn it wasn't a few weeks ago! Fantastic movie.

gently caress yes.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Looks like Netflix just got a whole bunch of British Sci Fi &/or horror boob movies...in HD.
...From the 60-70s.
I was pretty excited about Fantomas being added but It looks like the HD section just turned into straight to demand hell in the last week.

cool kids inc.
May 27, 2005

I swallowed a bug

I just streamed Antichrist on a whim because hey, I love Wilem Dafoe, and I've heard good things about this Von Trier cat.

:stare:

Oh. Well. Uh. Okay.

CPFortest
Jun 2, 2009

Did you not pour me out like milk, and curdle me like cheese?
Thank you for giving me an excuse to rewatch Antichrist.

MikeRabsitch
Aug 23, 2004

Show us what you got, what you got
So House of Cards spoiler: If Frank's master plan was to become VP, why would he even back Russo in the first place if the current VP had to go back to being governor?

I still have 2 episodes left so maybe that makes itself clear later, but that's something that was really confusing me. Also I wasn't really sure where to ask, figured the Netflix thread was best.

SimonNotGarfunkel
Jan 28, 2011

cool kids inc. posted:

I just streamed Antichrist on a whim because hey, I love Wilem Dafoe, and I've heard good things about this Von Trier cat.

:stare:

Oh. Well. Uh. Okay.

It's right up there with Shame for unnecessarily long lingering cock shots.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Knightmare posted:

So House of Cards spoiler: If Frank's master plan was to become VP, why would he even back Russo in the first place if the current VP had to go back to being governor?

I still have 2 episodes left so maybe that makes itself clear later, but that's something that was really confusing me. Also I wasn't really sure where to ask, figured the Netflix thread was best.

There's a thread in the TVIV.

Human Tornada
Mar 4, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.
If anybody's looking for a half-decent action movie from the 90s, I recommend Sudden Death starring Jean-Claude Van Damme.

It's basically Die Hard in a hockey arena, and it makes great use of all the different locations; the kitchen, the stands, the luxury booth, on top of the dome, the locker rooms, underneath with the pipes and poo poo, and even on the ice. Also the cinematography looks pretty good for an action movie. It's a lot better than I remembered it being. Powers Boothe is great as the villain and most of the action scenes are really good

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Junkie Disease posted:

Looks like Netflix just got a whole bunch of British Sci Fi &/or horror boob movies...in HD.
...From the 60-70s.
I was pretty excited about Fantomas being added but It looks like the HD section just turned into straight to demand hell in the last week.

horror boob movies?

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

So that explains why he did not answer. He had no mouth to answer with. There is nothing left of him but his ears.

etalian posted:

horror boob movies?

What part of that confuses you?

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Some are french.
:nws: http://i.imgur.com/5V7pXaMl.jpg
Netflix just got an invasion of them.

MOD EDIT - come on.
My deepest apology.
The pic is a French Poster with a small painted lady that topless and surrounded buy Zombis. I made a bad assumption as to whats safe for work.

Upsidads fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Feb 6, 2013

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CV 64 Fan
Oct 13, 2012

It's pretty dope.
Play Dirty was great. I would definitely recommend this for anyone looking for an under-seen "war" gem. That ending was surreal.

Sudden Death is a pretty swell film. Good action and Powers Boothe is a magnificent oval office.

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