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This just popped up on my Monster forum: http://vimeo.com/m/38142210 $1,900
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Feb 7, 2013 00:13
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I've never ridden a bike with a dry clutch - are they really that different than wet clutches in terms of feel? Can you really not "modulate" a dry clutch?
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Feb 7, 2013 01:07
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I've only ridden a wet clutch in the MSF, but it was noticeably easier to modulate. I can modulate my dry clutch, but it's pretty sensitive. The pull on the clutch lever is pretty hard too, even with an aftermarket slave.
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Feb 7, 2013 02:55
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I didn't really think this warranted it's own thread, so I thought I'd put it in here. Over Superbowl weekend I flew to Austin to visit a good friend, watch the Superbowl and get the hell out of LA for a few days. He's been riding for quite awhile and always urged me to get my M1, so now that I have it we decided to rent a bike for me and do a ride together (some of you remember I was asking about rentals and years of experience in the Questions thread). There's several good rental places in the area, but we finally went with these guys since they were pretty cheap and didn't require 2years riding experience (I'm at ~5months). It was a limited selection, but I went with a Ninja 500 since all I've ever ridden is cruisers. Great little rental place run by a guy and his wife, who also do MSF courses. We picked the bike up on Saturday and set out for Llano to try a BBQ place my friend had heard good things about. A nice 75mile run to start the day:  My friend's S50 and my rental steed. Beautiful day; perfect temp and the sky the same color as my biek.  Llano, Texas  Most of those stores are empty, but I saw more bikes drive through than cars. All Harleys. BBQ was worth the ride. The jalapeno pork sausage was incredible. Yes, we live dangerously and had a beer each.  Nearly everyone eating here was people out for rides. There was a group of guys with GSXRs/R1s that came in later, some of the only sportbikes I saw outside of Austin proper. Appropriate atmosphere  Bieks with outdoor grilling pits.  After that, we headed back East on Ranch Road 1431 through the Texas Hill Country. Nice, rolling hills.  We stopped at a nice overlook of some other (not the) Colorado River.  From there it was lots of nice easy curves back towards Austin, skirting through a wildlife refuge.  We stopped at another scenic overlook just in time to catch the sunset over Austin.   After 180miles and ~6hours, we were ready for some coffee and a night on the town (Texan girls  ). That was the furthest I'd ridden in a day before, and on an unfamiliar bike to boot. The Ninja ran wonderfully despite it's 180,000miles and was a blast in the curves - so much easier to steer than the Sportster I'm used to. A couple times I got distracted by scenery and started turning wide, and was ever so thankfully surprised by how easy it was to get back in my line. Side note: Texas has no helmet law, so it was pretty weird at first seeing guys go past bareheaded. Most people had helmets though, and I saw more Harley guys with full-face than I do in LA. Unfortunately most of the hipster kids on scooters in town rode in sandals and shorts. Also, I missed lane splitting  A+ would ride again!
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Feb 7, 2013 03:46
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Dellikose posted:I can modulate my dry clutch, but it's pretty sensitive. The pull on the clutch lever is pretty hard too, even with an aftermarket slave. So what's the up-side to them?
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Feb 7, 2013 03:59
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Coopers BBQ is the poo poo
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Feb 7, 2013 05:01
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obso posted:So what's the up-side to them? Perhaps it's preferred on race bikes because you don't have to drain the oil to replace it or service it. Then that trickled down to the consumer market.
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Feb 7, 2013 06:55
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I guess the preference for a dry clutch came from needing to replace them during a race weekend and cutting down service time. Now that wet clutches can last a weekend they're kind of pointless, but Ducati's all about heritage and stuff(until recently, now that every new engine design has a wet clutch). I like my noisy tambourine, even if aftermarket plates seize together after being in the rain.
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Feb 7, 2013 08:54
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All manual-transmission cars have dry clutches though, right? So how come they don't also sound like a coffee can full of marbles?
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Feb 7, 2013 08:58
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Sagebrush posted:All manual-transmission cars have dry clutches though, right? So how come they don't also sound like a coffee can full of marbles? Because they don't have a dozen friction plates held in a basket using loosely-fitting fingers around the outside is why. A car clutch only has two parts that move independently to eachother (3 if you count the input shaft I guess); a ducati clutch has dozens. Totally different designs; old BMW's have car-style dry clutches don't they?
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Feb 7, 2013 09:06
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Sagebrush posted:All manual-transmission cars have dry clutches though, right? So how come they don't also sound like a coffee can full of marbles? As well as the single- versus multi-plate point Slavvy bought up, car clutches are buried at the bottom of the engine inside a sound-proofed (to a greater or less extent) metal box, bike clutches normally aren't even behind a fairing. Mind you that doesn't explain why the gearbox whine of a car in reverse is so much louder than that of a bike with square-cut cogs in the gearbox.
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Feb 7, 2013 09:47
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obso posted:So what's the up-side to them? Loud clutches save lives.
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Feb 7, 2013 13:44
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I believe dry clutches are a little more efficient reciprocating mass wise as well. You don't have the stuff spinning around in an oil bath. I think most of the motoGP bikes use dry clutches but I'm not sure about that.
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Feb 7, 2013 17:04
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Dellikose posted:Loud clutches save lives. I can totally confirm this. In fact, I like to open her up and throw some grit in there, maybe file off a tooth or two on my plates, just so people hear me comin' and get out of my way.
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Feb 7, 2013 18:09
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They may not save lives but is possible, on rare occasion, to talk oneself out of a speeding ticket as you were just investigating if the weird noise your transmission is making changes at speed. It just doesn't sound right to me officer
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Feb 7, 2013 19:01
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Slavvy posted:old BMW's have car-style dry clutches don't they? They're still selling dry clutch Rs.
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Feb 7, 2013 19:04
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goddamnedtwisto posted:As well as the single- versus multi-plate point Slavvy bought up, car clutches are buried at the bottom of the engine inside a sound-proofed (to a greater or less extent) metal box, bike clutches normally aren't even behind a fairing. Because the reverse gear in a car is a free-floating straight-cut cog on a third shaft, so there are 3 gears and shafts in the reverse system which means a lot of free play and lash compared to bike gears which use a dog on the same shaft as one of the gears. 
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Feb 7, 2013 20:44
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clutchpuck posted:They're still selling dry clutch Rs.
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Feb 7, 2013 20:50
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Yep, I'm looking forward to seeing the remixed R motor in action - seems like a huge step forward for it. Pretty sure the F and Gs were ground-up wet clutch designs. Didn't the Ks go wet when they went to the transverse orientation?
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Feb 7, 2013 21:10
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Urals use a dry clutch too, because if it worked in 1941 it's still good enough. 
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Feb 8, 2013 00:18
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Collateral Damage posted:Urals use a dry clutch too, because if it worked in 1941 it's still good enough. Old BMW=Ural 
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Feb 8, 2013 00:55
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clutchpuck posted:Yep, I'm looking forward to seeing the remixed R motor in action - seems like a huge step forward for it. Pretty sure the F and Gs were ground-up wet clutch designs. Didn't the Ks go wet when they went to the transverse orientation?
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Feb 8, 2013 01:27
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Collateral Damage posted:Urals use a dry clutch too, because if it worked in 1941 it's still good enough. That's my attitude on running aircooled OHV  I guess Icon put this one together by request from Ural: 
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Feb 8, 2013 01:32
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clutchpuck posted:That's my attitude on running aircooled OHV That's Harley's reason for... everything.
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Feb 8, 2013 01:59
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Can't fault that, works pretty well for them, me, and the majority of the US's motorcycle market. And this is ignoring the EFI, catalyzed exhaust, ride by wire, and frame evolution they've brought to their models in the last decade-ish.
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Feb 8, 2013 02:09
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clutchpuck posted:That's my attitude on running aircooled OHV I would ride this every day in every condition. It looks like the G-shock of bikes.
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Feb 8, 2013 03:58
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I'm sure it's just the angle but the front tire looks wider than the rear.
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Feb 8, 2013 15:56
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I was just re-enjoying "le Filtrage" after a friend of mine reminded me of it so I thought I'd repost it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q29inP2m3do His humor is in the timing, but also he isn't french if you didn't notice...a Brit I think. Saying he was French with a name of Pierre Camembert would be like if he was making fun of Americans and introduced himself as "Johnny Cheeseburger"
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Feb 8, 2013 18:42
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Feb 8, 2013 19:08
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No front brake for aesthetic reasons I somewhat understand, but it just looks retarded when all the mounting hardware is still there and clearly visible.
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Feb 8, 2013 20:24
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Frankly, I don't really "get" Confederates. That one is a salt flat racer, so to be fair it pretty much doesn't need brakes on the front. For Confederate money though - and not the special "Combat" model - you're almost to a pair of CR&S DUUs which look like some design was put into them.
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Feb 8, 2013 20:47
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clutchpuck posted:Frankly, I don't really "get" Confederates. That one is a salt flat racer, so to be fair it pretty much doesn't need brakes on the front. For Confederate money though - and not the special "Combat" model - you're almost to a pair of CR&S DUUs which look like some design was put into them. Air cooled and you still get 1125 style scoops 
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Feb 8, 2013 20:51
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High Protein posted:Air cooled and you still get 1125 style scoops I think those might be headlight nacelles  The DUU comes as ordered though, so I bet you can have any headlight config you want.
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Feb 8, 2013 20:55
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nsaP posted:I was just re-enjoying "le Filtrage" after a friend of mine reminded me of it so I thought I'd repost it. This is incredible. I do this on a daily basis and now it'll have added faux-french commentary and ad hoc poetry.
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Feb 8, 2013 22:31
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 The bike rider needs to HTFU and pass that horse.
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Feb 9, 2013 04:07
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Kid (pro mx rider) hauling rear end on a KX112. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97syaiBP7i4
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Feb 9, 2013 07:01
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loving A is that kid fast
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Feb 9, 2013 18:17
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Gullous posted:
Is that HM The Queen on the bike?
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