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Neo Rasa posted:http://www.geeknative.com/37289/judge-dredd-might-be-gay-but-are-fans-really-threatening-to-burn-the-comic/ Didn't someone in this thread state that Dredd himself was not portrayed as gay, but rather civilians dressed up as judges were doing gay things? I don't really see anything to get worked up over.
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Alcholism Rocks posted:Didn't someone in this thread state that Dredd himself was not portrayed as gay, but rather civilians dressed up as judges were doing gay things? Yes this is my understanding as well. I'm thinking it's just some homophobic fans who hear the words "Dredd" and "gay" in the same sentence and have an aneurism and don't bother reading the rest of the article. The writer of the story has said in an interview that Dredd's sexuality is extremely repressed and he could be gay or straight, who knows.
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marktheando posted:Yes this is my understanding as well. I'm thinking it's just some homophobic fans who hear the words "Dredd" and "gay" in the same sentence and have an aneurism and don't bother reading the rest of the article. The writer of the story has said in an interview that Dredd's sexuality is extremely repressed and he could be gay or straight, who knows. He is a lawosexual.
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bobkatt013 posted:He is a lawosexual. Nowadays most people wouldn't even be fazed if it was revealed that Dredd spent his nights jacking off to his copy of The Law. That sort of thing is relatively normal.
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Who gives a poo poo where Dredd wants to put his dick Does he even care about putting his dick in places
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Zzulu posted:Who gives a poo poo where Dredd wants to put his dick Dredd would never act on any sexual thoughts he might or might not have, Judges aren't allowed to.
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marktheando posted:Yes this is my understanding as well. I'm thinking it's just some homophobic fans who hear the words "Dredd" and "gay" in the same sentence and have an aneurism and don't bother reading the rest of the article. The writer of the story has said in an interview that Dredd's sexuality is extremely repressed and he could be gay or straight, who knows. If you read the actual article, there's exactly two homophobic fans and one of them doesn't even read the comic (he mentions "not seeing that film").
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Zzulu posted:Who gives a poo poo where Dredd wants to put his dick
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Payndz posted:Dredd had his dick burned off in The Dead Man. If this is a satirical use of spoiler tags, you've done an excellent job.
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Feb 2, 2013 02:11
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Dredd has no penis, he just has massive balls.
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Payndz posted:Dredd had his dick burned off in The Dead Man. Fix this.
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Hewlett posted:Here's the URL for the link; for some reason, you can't click on hyperlinks if they're spoilered. It's even better looking at all the related articles to original one about nerds getting angry over gays: 
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Plus the fact that Dredd immediately sniffs these guys out as being corrupt seems to show that it's not a particularly unique occurrence. Somewhere in this thread, someone mentioned that on Dredd's first patrol there was massive rioting. There was still a police force along with Judges at that time and Dredd caught a group of cops acting criminal. So, he knows its possible that authority isn't infallible and stays on his guard.
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Shade2142 posted:Somewhere in this thread, someone mentioned that on Dredd's first patrol there was massive rioting. There was still a police force along with Judges at that time and Dredd caught a group of cops acting criminal. So, he knows its possible that authority isn't infallible and stays on his guard. The movie isn't the comic books. You can't use the latter to create a reading of the former. I don't disagree with you, actually, but still. Rule of thumb here.
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Well, I just saw the film for the first time. Opening felt a bit weedy but the movie built up nicely. Liked the corrupt judges portion in particular. Felt bad for that poor schmuck Anderson had to sentence outside medical, or rather his family. Would definitely watch another movie in this series if there's a prayer it'd get made. Guy at the store said it was doing well on DVD?
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Is it uncommon for films that recoup their expenses in DVD/Blu-Ray to get sequels? I hope that the guys that made this realize that the Stallone movie, despite being nearly a decade old, came out of the grave and hosed them, and that word of mouth for their awesome movie is positive. I know I've been telling everyone who's asked me that it's great.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Is it uncommon for films that recoup their expenses in DVD/Blu-Ray to get sequels? I hope that the guys that made this realize that the Stallone movie, despite being nearly a decade old, came out of the grave and hosed them, and that word of mouth for their awesome movie is positive. I know I've been telling everyone who's asked me that it's great. Boondocks Saints did. It also got a documentary about the making of the first one bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Feb 2, 2013 |
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Is it uncommon for films that recoup their expenses in DVD/Blu-Ray to get sequels? I hope that the guys that made this realize that the Stallone movie, despite being nearly a decade old, came out of the grave and hosed them, and that word of mouth for their awesome movie is positive. I know I've been telling everyone who's asked me that it's great. I hope they see that too. I could see us getting a sequel after the good home format sales, but the sheer awfulness of the box office keeps me concerned. Also, 'nearly a decade old'? The Stallone Dredd came out in 1995. More like nearly 2 decades.
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etalian posted:It's even better looking at all the related articles to original one about nerds getting angry over gays: The interview with eternal Trad Games hate figure RPGPundit is the cherry on that poo poo sundae.
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I can't count how many friends have come up to me separately and basically said SO I WATCHED THIS MOVIE LAST NIGHT THAT WAS REALLY GOOD, I WOULD HAVE NEVER IMAGINED, GUESS WHAT IT WAS. And I just go uhhh Dredd? And their mind is blown.
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Lotish posted:Opening felt a bit weedy but the movie built up nicely. AlternateAccount posted:I can't count how many friends have come up to me separately and basically said SO I WATCHED THIS MOVIE LAST NIGHT THAT WAS REALLY GOOD, I WOULD HAVE NEVER IMAGINED, GUESS WHAT IT WAS. And I just go uhhh Dredd? And their mind is blown. 
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In this case weedy means "noticeably thin or scrawny." I felt unimpressed by the intro. Perhaps because I was expecting the future it represents to look at little more dense, cluttered and claustrophobic, with more futuristic stylings and personality. Dredd on his bike looked very out of place on that highway, like they didn't have the budget or imagination to make the other vehicles feel like they complemented the setting. Around the time we see the robot cleaning up the blood, however, it clicked with me and I was on board.
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As far as futuristic stylings go, I really liked how in the various CCTV shots you'd usually have some kind of face-recognition going on, cataloguing the people involved. This is really noticeable in the opening, when you have a bunch of people in masks which the system can't pick up and one guy marching forward, being registered and not giving a gently caress. I also liked how the Judges attempt to compensate for their lack of manpower with a NASA-style command room and loads of drones gliding everywhere.
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Lotish posted:In this case weedy means "noticeably thin or scrawny." I felt unimpressed by the intro. Perhaps because I was expecting the future it represents to look at little more dense, cluttered and claustrophobic, with more futuristic stylings and personality. Dredd on his bike looked very out of place on that highway, like they didn't have the budget or imagination to make the other vehicles feel like they complemented the setting. Around the time we see the robot cleaning up the blood, however, it clicked with me and I was on board. I agree with you somewhat. Everything from the hall of justice onwards felt proper and what megacity would be all about with huge grim structures etc.. but the opening bits on the highway were a little too obviously repurposed modern settings and things. I give it a pass though just because I know the budget constricted it.
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Baron Bifford posted:Mega-City One is big and it wouldn't be wrong to say this particular section has fewer tower blocks. Nearly the entire city is made of city blocks and the parts that aren't are where the very few rich people live.
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The first time I saw this movie I made a lot of internal comparisons to Robocop and ultimately felt like it pulled a lot of its punches and walked away entertained but disappointed. I decided to go back and give it a second shot since its DVD release and actually try to look beneath the surface for anything that I missed. Well, turns out that I'm actually finding a lot of meat and potatoes there that don't make themselves readily apparent but are really wonderful to appreciate once you see them. I'm about 8 minutes in right now and I've had to pause every 15-20 seconds to jot down some new notes but one of my favorite observations so far has been this during the opening: "While Dredd references the "Men and Women" of the Hall of Justice, it is this monolithic structure that towers over the rest of the city. This is the first sign of an unreliable narrator in Dredd as it is not the Judges that are keeping order, but instead this towering threat that is keeping the citizens complacent in fear as well as violent in defiance. This is paired with an interesting shot where the neon signs of the city blocks are visible in the reflection in the windows of the Hall of Justice. Since both had to be digitally composed, this is certainly intentional and a statement that the squalor of the city blocks is a direct result, or "reflection" of the influence of the brutal and tyrannical Judge system." The first 8 minutes are 2ish pages so far, if anyone cares I'll post the whole shebang when its done. tehspiekguy fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Feb 7, 2013 |
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I really liked that mega city was mostly low rises. I know typically in sci fi blade runner style skyscrapers but even those are cool in their own imposing way, when rob schneider first gets off the bus in the 95 movie theres an epic shot of the skyline with music. A mass of low rise projects however really just sells that this place is just poo poo.
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I'd like to see the "whole shebang," tehspikeguy. I only watched the film once, but seeing another person's interpretation of events is always fun.
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massive spider posted:I really liked that mega city was mostly low rises. I know typically in sci fi blade runner style skyscrapers but even those are cool in their own imposing way, when rob schneider first gets off the bus in the 95 movie theres an epic shot of the skyline with music. A mass of low rise projects however really just sells that this place is just poo poo. Mega-City One isn't meant to be a dystopia. It's a failed utopia. We build skyscrapers the size of cities, the economy is so strong that 87% of the population being out of work doesn't dent it, we can travel to other star systems and even other times and dimensions, and what do we do with it? The same things we've always done, only harder and worse.
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massive spider posted:I really liked that mega city was mostly low rises. I know typically in sci fi blade runner style skyscrapers but even those are cool in their own imposing way, when rob schneider first gets off the bus in the 95 movie theres an epic shot of the skyline with music. A mass of low rise projects however really just sells that this place is just poo poo. From a production point of view it was driven mainly by the budget constraints, overall I liked the look of the film for how it mixed into run down modern buildings in with the towering futuristic megablocks. The cheesy Stallone version is more accurate to the original comics in terms of the overall scale for all the buildings since it had the luxury of a much bigger production budget.
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etalian posted:From a production point of view it was driven mainly by the budget constraints, overall I liked the look of the film for how it mixed into run down modern buildings in with the towering futuristic megablocks. Which makes it sound rather like Jedit's description of Mega-City One. Fitting.
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To be honest, I think the difference is that our conception of the future and overpopulation changed. I think Dredd is more cynical of modernism than other parts of the franchise because it more or lets admits that if poverty is the norm (admittelt through technology created unemployment that necessitated state support), therefore that vast majority of humanity would live in slums, with some mega-slums breaking up the horizon. They didn't show where the 1% lived although it was socially implied. It ultimately pulled its punches mostly with its politics, not its violence but to be honestly Judge Dredd has always pulled most of its punches in that regard. In the comics, they were happy to offer up a Soviet Union-analogue as a antagonist...you weren't going to get that much social criticism from it.
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tehspiekguy posted:The first 8 minutes are 2ish pages so far, if anyone cares I'll post the whole shebang when its done. Please do, I'd like to read it.
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Jedit posted:Mega-City One isn't meant to be a dystopia. It's a failed utopia. We build skyscrapers the size of cities, the economy is so strong that 87% of the population being out of work doesn't dent it, we can travel to other star systems and even other times and dimensions, and what do we do with it? The same things we've always done, only harder and worse. That's not quite the same way its presented in the film though. I mean if youve read the comics then you know unemployment is 90% because of robots and overabundance. In the film when they just say "unemployment in peachtrees is 90%" without that context the connotation is different. Dredd straight up describes it as "the ruins of the old world" in the opening narration. massive spider fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Feb 8, 2013 |
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massive spider posted:That's not quite the same way its presented in the film though. I mean if youve read the comics then you know unemployment is 90% because of robots and overabundance. In the film when they just say "unemployment in peachtrees is 90%" without that context the connotation is different. Dredd straight up describes it as "the ruins of the old world" in the opening narration. Being set after a war that destroyed civilisation does not make a story dystopian. Compare Logan's Run with City of Ember. In Logan's city almost everyone is happy and the system works - it just isn't a very nice system in certain ways. In Ember the people struggle under corrupt politicians and the system is literally falling apart. The former is a failed utopia; the latter, a dystopia. Dredd is much closer to Logan's Run than it is to Ember.
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tehspiekguy posted:The first time I saw this movie I made a lot of internal comparisons to Robocop and ultimately felt like it pulled a lot of its punches and walked away entertained but disappointed. I decided to go back and give it a second shot since its DVD release and actually try to look beneath the surface for anything that I missed. Well, turns out that I'm actually finding a lot of meat and potatoes there that don't make themselves readily apparent but are really wonderful to appreciate once you see them. I'm about 8 minutes in right now and I've had to pause every 15-20 seconds to jot down some new notes but one of my favorite observations so far has been this during the opening: I'd also like to see this. I'm still thinking about this film after seeing it twice at the Cinema when it came out (just got it on DVD too, of course) and I'm on Case Files 4. I'm hoping that after I've read Case Files 5 a re-watch will mean I get even more out of viewing it, but I'd love to see someone else go way more in-depth than I ever could.
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Jedit posted:Being set after a war that destroyed civilisation does not make a story dystopian. Compare Logan's Run with City of Ember. In Logan's city almost everyone is happy and the system works - it just isn't a very nice system in certain ways. In Ember the people struggle under corrupt politicians and the system is literally falling apart. The former is a failed utopia; the latter, a dystopia. Dredd is much closer to Logan's Run than it is to Ember. You're using the word dystopian, not me. In the comics theres a lot of backstory for how Mega city 1 works and its presented as a mass of high rise buildings crowded in- too much of everything. In the film the first thing you see of it is low rise slums dotted with high rise fallout centers, rioting in the streets and an overstressed justice system. Its a different interpretation is my point. Is that a dystopia or a "failed utopia" - does it matter?
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