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K9 Philosopher
Jun 21, 2005
Do what now?

mango sentinel posted:

Are there any protips for jumping into Dead Money?

When I played as a melee character, I found the Surgical Strike move in VATS with a Cosmic Knife (clean) hilariously overpowered- I was able to one-shot most of the enemies by slicing off their arms like some sort of survival horror samurai.

If guns are your thing, a high science check will net you a really good one in the police station towards the beginning of the DLC.

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CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



mango sentinel posted:

Are there any protips for jumping into Dead Money?

Especially if you're playing on Hardcore, watch where you step unless you like the idea of hobbling away from bullet-sponge enemies through instant-kill zones while having two crippled legs.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Especially if you're playing on Hardcore, watch where you step unless you like the idea of hobbling away from bullet-sponge enemies through instant-kill zones while having two crippled legs.

And this is why people say Light Step.

v v v See, most people define good eye as 'competent'. I assume you define it as 'armed services master tracker'.

dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Feb 10, 2013

Renditious
Sep 25, 2012

Sir Unimaginative posted:

And this is why people say Light Step.

Light step isn't really necessary as long as you keep a good eye on the ground, particularly in the (more) heavily trapped areas. Taking your time and going for limb destruction on the enemies will easily see you through Dead Money.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Light Step isn't necessary but by God it is a load off your mind, just like Animal Friend is in Honest Hearts.

Arbitrary Coin
Feb 17, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion

Connoisseur posted:


So what's "dialectic" about you and the NCR?
The bombs wiped the slate clean. Human civilization descended to a level of ignorance that effectively set our cultural progress back to zero. The NCR has all of the problems of the ancient Roman Republic - extreme bureaucracy, corruption, extensive senatorial infighting. Just as with the ancient Republic, it is natural that a military force should conquer and transform the NCR into a military dictatorship. Thesis and antithesis. The Colorado River is my Rubicon. The NCR council will be eradicated, but the new synthesis will change the Legion as well... ...from a basically nomadic army to a standing military force that protects its citizens, and the power of its dictator.

Yeah, New Vegas is pretty drat amazing with how nuanced everyone, including the seemingly cartoony villains are.

Though, I gotta question Ceasar's optimism in that his army will suddenly settle down and be willing to protect the "profligates" they were wholesale slaughtering a few weeks back. I mean, for the Romans there was already a "Rome" before the civil wars and conflicts drove them to become an empire instead so it wasn't as big a change for everyone involved as it would be here.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Don't forget that the special casino chips you find in Dead Money count as money and are affected by the Fortune Finder perk. Also, with Them's Good Eatin' you'll get healing items from neatly every Ghost Person you kill. Also also, when you get into the casino proper you can gamble. All the casino chips you win can be traded in for Pre-War money, which is worth ten caps apiece and weighs nothing.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Yeah, the true treasure of the Sierra Madre isn't the gold, it's the nigh-infinite Pre-War Money and Weapon Repair Kits you can accumulate.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Speedball posted:

Light Step isn't necessary but by God it is a load off your mind, just like Animal Friend is in Honest Hearts.

Actually, if God is with you you don't need Light Step :v:

Light Step is a waste of time in vanilla New Vegas, but it's useful in every DLC. Those mines in Lonesome Road are especially terrible to deal with otherwise.

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


Arbitrary Coin posted:

Though, I gotta question Ceasar's optimism in that his army will suddenly settle down and be willing to protect the "profligates" they were wholesale slaughtering a few weeks back. I mean, for the Romans there was already a "Rome" before the civil wars and conflicts drove them to become an empire instead so it wasn't as big a change for everyone involved as it would be here.
They aren't racists. The profligates are profligates because they oppose the Legion. Presumably once they surrender and accept the Legion's law, they'll be as well regarded as all the towns currently under Caesar's control. I'm sure the Legion is used to keeping the peace amongst conquered people in Arizona already.

That's not to say there wouldn't be a lot of slaughter. I'm sure people who are slow to adjust to the new order wouldn't live very long, but once the rest learn there's no resisting the Legion and settle down, the Legion themselves would quickly become simply an extremely proficient and brutal police force without much problem. They're well disciplined, after all. They'll follow orders.

The problem is if the person giving orders is... well, Lanius. Then you're probably going to get he wholesale destruction of NCR civilization.

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?

Wolfsheim posted:

Actually, if God is with you you don't need Light Step :v:

Light Step is a waste of time in vanilla New Vegas, but it's useful in every DLC. Those mines in Lonesome Road are especially terrible to deal with otherwise.

I've never taken Light Step, I must be a weird masochist because I love the nervous feeling of having to watch my step constantly. Some of my best deaths have been running from enemies and stepping on a mine!

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

eating only apples posted:

Some of my best deaths have been running from enemies and stepping on a mine!

This is the perfect encapsulation of the correct spirit in which to approach Dead Money.

The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

K9 Philosopher posted:

When I played as a melee character, I found the Surgical Strike move in VATS with a Cosmic Knife (clean) hilariously overpowered- I was able to one-shot most of the enemies by slicing off their arms like some sort of survival horror samurai.

Similar to this, VATS attacks with throwing knife spears can often behead enemies in a single shot.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Eiba posted:

The problem is if the person giving orders is... well, Lanius. Then you're probably going to get he wholesale destruction of NCR civilization.
He knows better than that if you have maxed out Speech/Barter (it's worth going through both dialogue paths). The real problem starts when you kill Lanius and his "honor and battle above all" philosophy, because all you have left for Legion leadership candidacy is Vulpes, or rapist genocidal punks who are just like him, essentially making an organized version of the Fallout 3 raider clans. :v:

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Wolfsheim posted:

Actually, if God is with you you don't need Light Step :v:

Oh, I know, if only you could take him with you everywhere! Sadly, you genuinely need Dean just as much for his cloud-diving sometimes.

rope kid
Feb 3, 2001

Warte nur! Balde
Ruhest du auch.

Speedball posted:

Rope Kid, you're the Honest Hearts guy, right?

Let me just say that hiding so many traps under tumbleweeds in the caves was both brilliant and really nasty.
In the core game I also had designers hide mines under (usually NCR) corpses or aim one trap at another (much worse) trap.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Ahh, like the shotguns aimed at fire extinguishers, right? I did think that was clever.

Renditious
Sep 25, 2012

Pope Guilty posted:

This is the perfect encapsulation of the correct spirit in which to approach Dead Money.

I'm pretty sure that mines aren't the defining explosive way to die in Dead Money.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Speedball posted:

Light Step isn't necessary but by God it is a load off your mind, just like Animal Friend is in Honest Hearts.

What's animal friend good for in Honest Hearts?

The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Knuc If U Buck posted:

What's animal friend good for in Honest Hearts?

Yao Guai, I'd assume.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

edit: ^^^ yao gui are NOT affected by Animal Friend in Honest Hearts, actually!

Knuc If U Buck posted:

What's animal friend good for in Honest Hearts?

Honest Hearts is full of animal life forms that want to kill you, including the new Green Geckos which are larger and stronger than any other gecko. Animal Friend makes them all non-hostile, so you just have to worry about the White Legs (who have pretty nasty weapons) and the yao gui.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
After a long hiatus im doing another run on New Vegas. First time using Jsawyer mod and I LOVE IT. Paired with hardcore and very hard gives you a new experience. At some point I had to follow a travelling caravan for safety hehe. Everything is doing fine on my anarchy run, god drat I love this game.

The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

turboraton posted:

After a long hiatus im doing another run on New Vegas. First time using Jsawyer mod and I LOVE IT. Paired with hardcore and very hard gives you a new experience. At some point I had to follow a travelling caravan for safety hehe. Everything is doing fine on my anarchy run, god drat I love this game.
If you're just starting another run, I highly recommend also throwing on the Freeside Open and Outside Bets mods. The base game just feels wrong without them.

EDIT: Though I guess if you're a decent ways into your run already there won't be much benefit (and potentially some weird drawbacks) from adding those.

The Crotch fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Feb 10, 2013

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


rope kid posted:

In the core game I also had designers hide mines under (usually NCR) corpses or aim one trap at another (much worse) trap.

That field near forlon hope and nelson, with the dismembered NCR soldier's laid out as traps by the legion, is great. Made me really hate Caesar.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Speedball posted:

edit: ^^^ yao gui are NOT affected by Animal Friend in Honest Hearts, actually!


Honest Hearts is full of animal life forms that want to kill you, including the new Green Geckos which are larger and stronger than any other gecko. Animal Friend makes them all non-hostile, so you just have to worry about the White Legs (who have pretty nasty weapons) and the yao gui.

Green Geckos are hardly lethal/numerous enough to waste a perk on.

Nightstalkers in OWB, are awful enough to burn a perk on Animal Friend iirc.

Knuc U Kinte fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Feb 10, 2013

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
I love Animal Friend. All the affected animals have cute idle animations so it's still a little rewarding to run across them in the wasteland, making Nightstalkers friendly helps alleviate one or two of the tough parts in OWB (which is still plenty challenging thanks to its infinite bullet-sponge enemies) and also slows down the rate at which I get experience, which I like because hitting the level cap makes it less fun for me.

zyang31
Oct 26, 2007
So I killed Caeser. Can I still finish the quest Wildcard: You and what army?

edit: nvm I figured it out.

zyang31 fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Feb 10, 2013

Servetus
Apr 1, 2010

Knuc If U Buck posted:

What's animal friend good for in Honest Hearts?

There's a quest, Bighorners of the Eastern Virgin, that goes a lot more smoothly if you can walk right through a herd of bighorners without a fight, and the quest records if you kill any of them, which makes it really difficult to do with a companion unless you have Animal Friend.

Zilkin
Jan 9, 2009

Servetus posted:

There's a quest, Bighorners of the Eastern Virgin, that goes a lot more smoothly if you can walk right through a herd of bighorners without a fight, and the quest records if you kill any of them, which makes it really difficult to do with a companion unless you have Animal Friend.

You really don't need the perk for that quest. You can still walk right next to them even without it, just don't stop there, and there a very clear sound notification as to how close they are to attacking you.

Connoisseur
Oct 2, 2010

"Every minute we waste could be the difference between a soldier goin' home alive or goin' home in a bag."

Zilkin posted:

You really don't need the perk for that quest. You can still walk right next to them even without it, just don't stop there, and there a very clear sound notification as to how close they are to attacking you.

Also, before you do that quest tell your follower to stay behind, because if he comes with you, he will kill the bighorners at the slightest provocation.

Follows-Chalk, you murdered those the bighorners, not me, so don't give me poo poo about it you tremendous hypocrite :mad:.

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me
I can't play much more than an hour before I get slammed with a CTD whenever I try to reload a save, the only reliable method I've found for fixing that is to completely shut down and restart my PC and that is getting really old very fast. I want to say it's something on my end but given how buggy this game tends to be I just don't know what to make of it anymore. :(

Renditious
Sep 25, 2012

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

I can't play much more than an hour before I get slammed with a CTD whenever I try to reload a save, the only reliable method I've found for fixing that is to completely shut down and restart my PC and that is getting really old very fast. I want to say it's something on my end but given how buggy this game tends to be I just don't know what to make of it anymore. :(

Sounds like a memory issue, if it's running for roughly the same amount of time between crashes. How much ram do you have? You could try the 4gb enabler for NV, and possibly liberal usage of the pcb command. Besides that, lowering textures / graphics quality can improve memory usage.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Servetus posted:

There's a quest, Bighorners of the Eastern Virgin, that goes a lot more smoothly if you can walk right through a herd of bighorners without a fight, and the quest records if you kill any of them, which makes it really difficult to do with a companion unless you have Animal Friend.

I've beaten HH probably about 3 times, and I've never had a problem with that quest. I imagine I would use sneak in that area, iirc.

Broose
Oct 28, 2007
Speaking of HH, I just started it. That poor Sheriff lady. Anything I should know about this dlc?

White Phosphorus
Sep 12, 2000

Man, are party members overpowered or what. The brotherhood chick in combat armor with her default weapon, and the flying robot murdered the entire rouge paladin strike force. My charisma is 6.

v1ld
Apr 16, 2012

White Phosphorus posted:

Man, are party members overpowered or what. The brotherhood chick in combat armor with her default weapon, and the flying robot murdered the entire rouge paladin strike force. My charisma is 6.

Cirosan's CCO mod has a follower rebalance module that makes it so you're not just a tour guide for a bunch of demi-gods. Followers do half damage, but take half damage. It also removes infinite follower ammo. Must have mod for me.

The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Broose posted:

Speaking of HH, I just started it. That poor Sheriff lady. Anything I should know about this dlc?

Do not leave until you've found all the Survivalist's journals. Especially the last one.

Also, make healing poultices. Xander root + broc flower + cave fungus. The fungus is kinda heavy, but healing poultices are awesome.

White Phosphorus
Sep 12, 2000

v1ld posted:

Cirosan's CCO mod has a follower rebalance module that makes it so you're not just a tour guide for a bunch of demi-gods. Followers do half damage, but take half damage. It also removes infinite follower ammo. Must have mod for me.

Can I install just the follower modifications without the game system overhaul? I want to finish the vanilla game I already started but with weaker followers.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

The Crotch posted:

Also, make healing poultices. Xander root + broc flower + cave fungus. The fungus is kinda heavy, but healing poultices are awesome.

Yeah. You can technically find cave fungus out in the core game, but only in exceedingly rare amounts, while it's in abundance in Honest Hearts. Healing poultices are a Hardcore player's best friend: healing and limb repair.

(how is the in-canon way people consume healing powder, anyhow? Do they snort it?)

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SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009

rope kid posted:

As far as familiarity with old world terms/names/ideas goes, regular folks in the Mojave Wasteland are Rhodes Scholars compared to the tribals Caesar encountered when he went east. Even if wastelanders don't know anything about Julius Caesar, the name "Caesar" or "Cesar" could be passed along pretty easily in some form. People today use plenty of names and phrases without actually understanding where they came from or what they mean.

Have you ever met anyone who understands "Exception that proves the rule"? Because I haven't met anyone who actually uses that saying correctly.

Speedball posted:

Yeah. You can technically find cave fungus out in the core game, but only in exceedingly rare amounts, while it's in abundance in Honest Hearts. Healing poultices are a Hardcore player's best friend: healing and limb repair.

(how is the in-canon way people consume healing powder, anyhow? Do they snort it?)

Presumably either by eating it or application to the wound. Applying it to the wound makes the most sense, that it's some sort of homebrew disinfectant/clotting agent.

SpookyLizard fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Feb 11, 2013

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