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LobsterMobster posted:Then I would imagine boxing is next on the block since that was judged awfully. Wouldn't surprise me, actually.
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Kurtofan posted:Isn't boxing the most corrupt Olympic sport? Pretty much anything that relies on judging is corrupt as hell.
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DekeThornton posted:Not to play devils advocate, but isn't it possible that wrestling is being threatend with being thrown out because it has become too tarred as corrupt even by IOC standards and it could be allowed back if it cleans up it's act and strange rulesets? Figure skating's corruption is legendary and no one will ever lay a finger on it e: I am really paranoid about the future of combat sports in the Olympics. TKD is apparently protected from on high and wushu would be free medals for the PRC, but boxing and judo must be looking attractive to people who want to make room for squash and rugby Julio Cesar Fatass fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Feb 12, 2013 |
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Julio Cesar Fatass posted:Figure skating's corruption is legendary and no one will ever lay a finger on it They'll lay a baton on it though.  (Yes, a Tonya Harding reference. How loving topical I am.) Football/soccer is pretty loving corrupt too.
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I sort of enjoy just how goofy the Modern Pentahalon is (horse jumping, fencing, AND pistol shooting? I'm in), but keeping it in favor of a sport that's been part of the Olympics since like 700 BC is weird. I don't watch a ton of wrestling but growing up around it I know just how huge the Olympics are to the sport. This is a bummer.
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Modern Pentathlon makes sense when you think about how the modern olympics were originally conceived as a way to get french schoolboys fired up about "masculine" things like fighting the germans.
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Oh no  Seriously, when people talk about the origins of the olympics they always show two guys painted on the side of an urn wrestling. That's a real bummer.
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Feb 12, 2013 18:04
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Another reason to not watch the Olympics.
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DekeThornton posted:Not to play devils advocate, but isn't it possible that wrestling is being threatend with being thrown out because it has become too tarred as corrupt even by IOC standards and it could be allowed back if it cleans up it's act and strange rulesets? Wrestling has corruption issues. But nothing on the order of Boxing or Taekwondo.
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MourningView posted:I sort of enjoy just how goofy the Modern Pentahalon is (horse jumping, fencing, AND pistol shooting? I'm in), but keeping it in favor of a sport that's been part of the Olympics since like 700 BC is weird. Modern Pentathlon has a guy on the IOC executive committee. That's the reason for wrestling getting voted out. The grappling sports are one of the few areas where smaller countries are able to have athletes medal, and are also some of the most widely participated sports worldwide. But Modern Pentathlon has more rich western Europeans.
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Thoguh posted:Wrestling has corruption issues. But nothing on the order of Boxing or Taekwondo. I guess my perception is influenced by living in Sweden. Here wrestling have caught a ton of flak for being corrupt since that corruption has been viewed as robbing Swedish wrestlers of medals, so I guess it gets disproportional attention here compared to Boxing and TDK.
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Isn't Trampoline still an Olympic sport? This is incredibly stupid. There's no way wrestling is the least deserving sport in the Olympics.
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DekeThornton posted:I guess my perception is influenced by living in Sweden. Here wrestling have caught a ton of flak for being corrupt since that corruption has been viewed as robbing Swedish wrestlers of medals, so I guess it gets disproportional attention here compared to Boxing and TDK. The most corrupt Olympic sport is "All of them", but if you had to rank them wrestling wouldn't even make top 20.
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Meat Recital posted:Isn't Trampoline still an Olympic sport? This is incredibly stupid. There's no way wrestling is the least deserving sport in the Olympics. Trampoline, modern pentathlon, rhythmic gymnastics, synchronized swimming, archery, ping pong, handball, and dressage are all still Olympic sports.
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I had to look up what dressage was. Holy shitballs what the gently caress is wrong with the IOC.
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DekeThornton posted:Not to play devils advocate, but isn't it possible that wrestling is being threatend with being thrown out because it has become too tarred as corrupt even by IOC standards and it could be allowed back if it cleans up it's act and strange rulesets? 'Too corrupt' is not something the IOC understands.
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Undeclared Eggplant posted:archery What's wrong with archery? That's a legit sport with a lineage on par with wrestling's.
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VogeGandire posted:What's wrong with archery? That's a legit sport with a lineage on par with wrestling's. Also, there's a heightened interest due to the Hunger Games. I heard something about that being a big sleeper sport last Olympics. Kurt Angle said he'd give an exclusive interview later today about this. That's gonna be fun.
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Undeclared Eggplant posted:Trampoline, modern pentathlon, rhythmic gymnastics, synchronized swimming, archery, ping pong, handball, and dressage are all still Olympic sports. No sport with a horse will ever be cut. e: And when the IOC dreams of cutting ping pong it wakes up and apologizes to China Julio Cesar Fatass fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Feb 12, 2013 |
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Feb 12, 2013 19:47
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Thoguh posted:Modern Pentathlon has a guy on the IOC executive committee. That's the reason for wrestling getting voted out. The grappling sports are one of the few areas where smaller countries are able to have athletes medal, and are also some of the most widely participated sports worldwide. But Modern Pentathlon has more rich western Europeans. This is exactly it, what a joke. In their list of made up reasons they have "worldwide participation" or something as if there are more people around the world going to prep schools and learning to ride horses and shoot old timey pistols or whatever the gently caress modern pentathalon is rather than wrestling
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Feb 12, 2013 19:53
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They should bring in pro wrestling and have it judged, like gymnastics or figure skating.
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The Monkey Man posted:They should bring in pro wrestling and have it judged, like gymnastics or figure skating.
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Perigryn posted:At last, Angle has a chance! Until he tries his moonsault.
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Looking forward to Kurt Angle cutting a promo on the IOC. Looking forward a lot less to an Olympic Games without wrestling
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The IOC actually just did something very profound. They found the only way, outside an alien invasion, to get Russia, Iran and the US to unite in a common cause. e: tell me this doesn't smell like a set up to bilk some money out of big buck countries like the US, Russia and Japan. quote:Round one http://olympictalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/12/how-the-ioc-voted-to-eliminate-wrestling-round-by-round/ The votes weren't even close. And then there's this: quote:The IOC will now put wrestling up against the seven other sports that have fought long and hard to be added to the schedule, including karate, squash, roller sports, wakeboarding, sport climbing, the chinese martial art of wushu, and baseball and softball in a joint bid. http://olympictalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/12/how-wrestling-can-get-back-in-the-olympics/related/ Message to FILA: YOU'RE BRIBING THE WRONG PEOPLE! ch3cooh fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Feb 12, 2013 |
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VogeGandire posted:Until he tries his moonsault. Can't be worse than NCAA Champion Brock Lesnar's. So here's Angle's statement: quote:“Wrestling is one of the most competitive sports in the world today,” stated TNA Superstar and 1996 Gold Medalist Kurt Angle. “Winning the gold for my country in one of the original Olympic sports was one of the greatest moments in my life.
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we just need an oil sheik to jump in and rescue wrestling by giving it its very own semi-corrupt traveling location world championship.
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Xguard86 posted:we just need an oil sheik to jump in and rescue wrestling by giving it its very own semi-corrupt traveling location world championship. Sadly my oil company is still in the startup phase and hasn't even made its first acquisition yet or I'd totally be there.
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I don't know much about the FILA championships, but is it plausible that they could get a bit of funding and be a bigger deal if the Olympics really do fall through?
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ch3cooh posted:Sadly my oil company is still in the startup phase and hasn't even made its first acquisition yet or I'd totally be there. This is a binding contract. jeffersonlives will hold you to it
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Feb 12, 2013 21:30
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Iron Shiek is displeased with the IOC
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So I support and promote wrestling more than almost everyone I know. And I've got to say that although it disgusts me that the Olympics even considered this, I understand it completely. First of all the modern pentathlon community has been lobbying hard about staying included and wrestling really hasn't. It was always assumed wrestling would be an Olympic sport. Second, the current state of olympi wrestling is awful, it's very close to being completely unwatchable and it is poorly officiated. The rules tweaks have made stalling a real and successful strategy more than ever. My hope is that this wake up call to the wrestling community and the international wrestling bodies (FILA) to change the sport back or revert some of the rules they've used in the london games. When you think Olympics, you think track and field first, then wrestling/swimming (hmm maybe make wrestleswimming a sport?). It's disappointing that the IOC let it go that far but wrestling certainly hasn't helped itself along the way.
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Mardragon posted:(hmm maybe make wrestleswimming a sport?). Water Polo already exists.
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Mardragon posted:hmm maybe make wrestleswimming a sport That's water polo. efb dammit Thoguh 
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WATER POLO 
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What about synchronized water grappling? Edit - Also wage polo has too much clothing for my liking. Mardragon fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Feb 12, 2013 |
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I want modern pankration dammit. The only form I can actually imagine ever being accepted in to the Olympics would basically be wrestleboxing. You could have them wear amateur boxing headgear and gloves but also award points for takedowns Failing that I'd like to see events taken from American Gladiators and Nickelodeon GUTS.
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If there were some way they could combine Judo's current rules/scoring and add strikes that would be awesome.
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I'd be down to watch some olympic level 'dodge the tennis ball turret' Sounds like it'd be pretty competitive.
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