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Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Arbite posted:

What exactly is a transfer sheet? Is it stickers, or what?
A water-based decal. In the basic form you cut it out, soak it in water, the glue or whatever relaxes and you can slide the symbol from the paper onto a model. Drain excess water and allow it to dry. That's it. There are also various agents to soften the decal to make it adhere nicely to a marine's shoulder, that dissolve the decal's foil to make it less visible etc.

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Cataphract
Sep 10, 2004

Fun Shoe

Pierzak posted:

A water-based decal. In the basic form you cut it out, soak it in water, the glue or whatever relaxes and you can slide the symbol from the paper onto a model. Drain excess water and allow it to dry. That's it. There are also various agents to soften the decal to make it adhere nicely to a marine's shoulder, that dissolve the decal's foil to make it less visible etc.

basically fancy stickers

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 hours!
Yeah, Americans call them decals, British people call them transfers.

krushgroove
Oct 23, 2007

Disapproving look
Any tips on making a good kill team? I was toying with the idea of taking a fully tooled-up squad of 3 Chaos Terminators with mark of Nurgle, Hatred, etc. and all the weapons they can carry for 197 pts but then I realized that if one of them die that's 1 VP for the Specialists and another 2 VP for the one that's the Leader. So now I'm pondering something with more models (but not Cultists, they have terrible Leadership).

l3v3l4outbr3ak
Apr 15, 2006

Are you ready to die?

Cataphract posted:

I got a whole bunch of painting done for my Death Guard this week in preparation for a Tournament this weekend.

Daemon Prince


Autocannon Havocs


Chaos Lord on Bike


Chaos Spawn


Plague Zombies


What models are those for the zombies? They're loving glorious.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 hours!
What to you guys use for pain tokens with your Dark Eldar?

Cataphract
Sep 10, 2004

Fun Shoe

l3v3l4outbr3ak posted:

What models are those for the zombies? They're loving glorious.

straight up Warhammer Fantasy zombies.

krushgroove
Oct 23, 2007

Disapproving look

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

What to you guys use for pain tokens with your Dark Eldar?

I have tiny 5mm D6's I use for hull/wound points and pain tokens. Orange with black pips for hull points and wounds, and green gem with white pips for pain tokens. They fit easily on model bases or on top of any vehicle, but they're not as heavy as the 12mm dice that are easier to find, so you just have to be a little careful moving the models around.

Also, those Nurgle models are amazing. I really need to re-visit the Plague Marines I did in December, they're just a Dark Angels DV squad with some fleshy bits Green Stuffed in and painted a sickly green, but they need boils, corrosion and drippy black stuff to get across the Nurgle look.

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord

krushgroove posted:

Any tips on making a good kill team? I was toying with the idea of taking a fully tooled-up squad of 3 Chaos Terminators with mark of Nurgle, Hatred, etc. and all the weapons they can carry for 197 pts but then I realized that if one of them die that's 1 VP for the Specialists and another 2 VP for the one that's the Leader. So now I'm pondering something with more models (but not Cultists, they have terrible Leadership).

You really can't beat Plague Marines for Kill Team fun.

6x Plague Marine 144pts (200pts)
++Plasmagun 15pts
++Plasmagun 15pts
++Combi-melta (Plague Champion) 10pts
++Gift of Mutation (Plague Champion) 10pts
++Veterans of the Long War 6pts

krushgroove
Oct 23, 2007

Disapproving look
...well I can't think of anything better, that looks really good and exactly on the points! This should be fun :)

PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

What to you guys use for pain tokens with your Dark Eldar?

You know all those little banner and trophy poles that come with the vehicles? I mounted a bunch of those on spare round bases.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'd just take Black Knights. They're my new favorite unit in the game.

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord
Four Chaos Spawn with marks of Nurgle and ten Chaos Cultists with a Heavy Stubber and one Autogun is 200pts as well. Individual models will have problems dealing with a fast T6 model that gets 2+1d6 attacks and special powers on a charge.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
I'm pretty sure that Nurgle Spawn are the best possible kill team. No other unit approaches their sheer efficiency on that scale.

krushgroove
Oct 23, 2007

Disapproving look
Hmm I do like Spawn! Decisions, decisions. I'll probably go with the spawn list just because the terrain will be varied and getting across the board in the first turn would be nice. I've also considered doing an all-Reaver list to get my DE back in action but I've never had good luck with them.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
What special rules would be best to give the Spawn? I'm thinking one with FNP, one with Shrouded, and one with either Armourbane to deal with vehicles like walkers or Eternal Warrior to deal with models with instant death weapons. Maybe both Armourbane and EW and drop Shrouded?

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord

Phyresis posted:

What special rules would be best to give the Spawn? I'm thinking one with FNP, one with Shrouded, and one with either Armourbane to deal with vehicles like walkers or Eternal Warrior to deal with models with instant death weapons. Maybe both Armourbane and EW and drop Shrouded?

Yeah, Eternal Warrior, Feel No Pain, and Armourbane are the best options. With the speed of Spawn you can easily deliver those units to whatever target needs to get their special "attention."

Takkaryx
Oct 17, 2007

Bunnies (very useful) Scientific Facts: Bunnies never close doors

Cataphract posted:

How much do you want to spend?

these are awesome and totally fit in with the siege specialists thing. There's rules for them in one of the IA books I'm sure. But I think they just look awesome on tactical squads.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhamm...PGRADE_SET.html



The rules for these guys are in The Horus Heresy book, they're called Legion Breacher Siege Squad. 225 for 10, 10 more for 10/ea. Every 5 can swap out for a special. They come with boarding shields (6++, 5++ in CC, defensive grenades, no extra attacks) and Hardened Armor (Void Hardened for missions that have it, failed armor saves from blasts and templates can be re-rolled, reduce run, sweep, and charge by 1"). Pretty awesome fluffy guys.

Monday Averted
Jun 12, 2010

AgentF posted:

On the weekend I had 3 Flamers drop next to some Terminators and roast the entire squad and put a wound on the attached Chaplain. My opponent responded by charging them with a Dreadnought, which they promptly scored 7 overwatch hits and 3 Hull Points against, wrecking it.

That is... ridiculously lucky.

I feel like throwing anything at Terminators that is not AP2 is a waste of time. Goes to show it isn't!

Those 2+ saves though. :(

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?
In my second last game I had 18 odd chaos marines with bolters and 2 plasma guns overwatch and kill 4 Terminators. My opponent was not a happy chappy.

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord

Monday Averted posted:

That is... ridiculously lucky.

I feel like throwing anything at Terminators that is not AP2 is a waste of time. Goes to show it isn't!

Those 2+ saves though. :(

I believe by Flamers he meant Flamers of Tzeentch which have Breath of Chaos (wounds on 4+ with no armour save).

Anti-Citizen
Oct 24, 2007
As You're Playing Chess, I'm Playing Russian Roulette

krushgroove posted:

Hmm I do like Spawn! Decisions, decisions. I'll probably go with the spawn list just because the terrain will be varied and getting across the board in the first turn would be nice. I've also considered doing an all-Reaver list to get my DE back in action but I've never had good luck with them.

This is the list I've been getting the most work done with in 6th, the edition swap pushed them from cool to amazing, still stinging at the lack of biker archon though.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 hours!
While I was in my local GW today, picking up a box of Hellions and a Haemonculus, I impulse bought one of their 'limited-edition' dice shakers. It makes a cool sound.

If you like dice, make the dice like you, buy them a shaker.

Monday Averted
Jun 12, 2010

PierreTheMime posted:

I believe by Flamers he meant Flamers of Tzeentch which have Breath of Chaos (wounds on 4+ with no armour save).

Ah, that'd make more sense. I am not really familiar with Chaos units.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Big Willy Style posted:

In my second last game I had 18 odd chaos marines with bolters and 2 plasma guns overwatch and kill 4 Terminators. My opponent was not a happy chappy.

It's always satisfying when that happens. In my last game 9 pistol Cultists killed 2 TH+SS Terms. To say my opponent was non-plussed is putting it mildly.

Megaspam
Mar 1, 2007

In this ever changing world in which we live in.
I lost 2 terminators from a squad of 3 in an explosion from the Tau devilfish they punched to death.

The faq for the BRB says that bikes now have the Very Bulky special rule. Can someone explain why they did this if bikes can't ride on transports?

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

While I was in my local GW today, picking up a box of Hellions and a Haemonculus, I impulse bought one of their 'limited-edition' dice shakers. It makes a cool sound.

If you like dice, make the dice like you, buy them a shaker.
I wasn't aware GW had dice shakers. What does it look like? Google's not responding for me right now and I couldn't find anything on GW's site.

Lungboy posted:

It's always satisfying when that happens. In my last game 9 pistol Cultists killed 2 TH+SS Terms. To say my opponent was non-plussed is putting it mildly.
My favorite was back in 5th edition. I had 11 grots shoot at Terminators and cause 6 wounds, killing 5.

Anti-Citizen
Oct 24, 2007
As You're Playing Chess, I'm Playing Russian Roulette

Megaspam posted:

I lost 2 terminators from a squad of 3 in an explosion from the Tau devilfish they punched to death.

The faq for the BRB says that bikes now have the Very Bulky special rule. Can someone explain why they did this if bikes can't ride on transports?

Necrons can do it, Necrons can do anything.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
There are probably transports that can carry non-infantry models that could carry bikes.

e: Yeah, Night Scythes can carry jetbikes.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

SRM posted:

I wasn't aware GW had dice shakers. What does it look like? Google's not responding for me right now and I couldn't find anything on GW's site.


This is all I can find:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-4...=p2047675.l2557

Just look for leather dice cup on Google and you can find hundreds of alternatives.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 hours!

SRM posted:

I wasn't aware GW had dice shakers. What does it look like? Google's not responding for me right now and I couldn't find anything on GW's site.

Before today I had only ever seen them in the Warhammer World shop.



It came with six D6 as well. Not bad for £4.

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~
Neat! I don't really think I'd ever need one, but it's kinda cool.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

Before today I had only ever seen them in the Warhammer World shop.



It came with six D6 as well. Not bad for £4.

Now you can rig your dice rolls and win every game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ2C3XWbgkM

Seriously dice cups can be totally abused (not that you ever would).

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

Before today I had only ever seen them in the Warhammer World shop.



It came with six D6 as well. Not bad for £4.

£4 for a shaker and 6 dice? An affordable product from gamesworkshop?

What the gently caress is going on?!

Kinda want that...

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Australia cares about cunts. Including this one.
I've been doing some more thinking about the IG blob, the NOVA Open winners list, and that battle report posted a few pages ago with the Nid player.

I want to avoid giving up kill points, which means few light transports. However, mobility is key in a few games. I also want to be able to shutdown helldrakes and other templates from ruining foot sloggers. I like to shutdown Eldar/Nid players who rely on pskers to make them hard to kill.

Here is my first draft.

SW/IG, 1850

4x Rune Priest, Termie Armor, Force Axe
3x 10x Grey Hunter, 2x Plasma
3x Long Fang, 4x missiles
1x Primaris Pskyer, Force Axe.
1x 50 man blob, 5x power axe, 5x melta bomb
1x Platoon Command Squad
1x Vendetta

This gives me a huge presence on the ground with missiles and a vendetta to open up transports for the plasma/weight of dice to take things down. The priests lead each squad/the blob using their 2+ armor save and positioning to eat crap like helldrake templates/small arms fire. I want to run that many priests so I can have many many attempts at the 4+ invul save power, and giving rerolls to all my infantry would be hilarious. Otherwise once I have the 4+ invul or think I don't need it I can rock Jaws on all of them. The Psyker goes in the blob trying for FNP and the PCS rides in the vendetta for an objective grab.

I don't have Marbo or a Manticore though. :(

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord

Naramyth posted:

SW/IG, 1850

Rune Priest, Force Axe
3x 10x Grey Hunter, 2x Plasma, 3x Rhinos
3x Long Fang, 4x missiles
1x Primaris Pskyer, Force Axe.
1x 50 man blob, 5x power axe, 5x melta bomb
1x Platoon Command Squad
1x Vendetta
1x Manticore

I basically fought this list against Phyresis a while back and I can confirm it's pretty drat hard. The only problem you may experience (and was the reason I won) is that your mobility on your troop choices can be a little rough and if you're fighting blobs yourself you'll be hard-pressed to clear out enough models. It's great against elite units, but if they have a mix or are fielding tons of infantry you might have a problem.

PierreTheMime fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Feb 13, 2013

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Goat Bouillabaise posted:

Yeah, I'll build it up somehow. Mah feets-type bits, they be limited. I'll keep dicking around with it. Thanks! :D

What do you have in terms of claws or talons? Those could increase the footprint while giving the feet a suitably Chaos look.

Slandible
Apr 30, 2008

So The Warstore is pretty awesome. I've been building a DA army off of all the Dark Vengence stuff, and one of my orders was missing an arm on a tactical marine. They sent the missing piece out and today I open it up and get that plus the new DW Cyclone Missle Launcher. Those guys have some pretty good customer service there.

frest
Sep 17, 2004

Well hell. I guess old Tumnus is just a loverman by trade.

Khorne Flakes posted:

So The Warstore is pretty awesome. I've been building a DA army off of all the Dark Vengence stuff, and one of my orders was missing an arm on a tactical marine. They sent the missing piece out and today I open it up and get that plus the new DW Cyclone Missle Launcher. Those guys have some pretty good customer service there.

I started my Empire army from the Warstore, and ordered like 6? boxes of state troops. He actually ended up opening a bunch of battalion boxes to meet the order, and then was like "oh what do I do with these 20 greatswords?? welp in the box they go!"

I love the Warstore. :patriot:

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Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

Khorne Flakes posted:

So The Warstore is pretty awesome. I've been building a DA army off of all the Dark Vengence stuff, and one of my orders was missing an arm on a tactical marine. They sent the missing piece out and today I open it up and get that plus the new DW Cyclone Missle Launcher. Those guys have some pretty good customer service there.

The Warstore is pretty great. Too bad it's literally on the tip of long island or I'd visit more often. Still, maybe one trip was enough. It was quite a curiosity

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