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InEscape
Nov 10, 2006

stuck.

fork bomb posted:

Implanon has been so awesome for me. There's been some wonky bleeding, but nothing deal-breaking in the grand scheme of things. There's no hormone rollercoaster like Depo, and no daily/weekly/monthly responsibility. Three fuckin years mang.

Quotin' for truth. Just hit 5 weeks. Haven't had any bleeding in a week and a half and haven't had anything even half as heavy as a period since I had it inserted. Also seem to be evening out hormonally, and it cleared up my skin pretty well! Hoping this is where it'll stay, this is so much better than any other BC I've ever been on.

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Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


a life less posted:

Wow... wish I was knocked out for mine. Holy god it hurt.

I have a question about my copper IUD. My husband mentioned that he hasn't been able to feel the thread/wire lately while we have sex. It used to be able to be felt while I was on top of him but apparently not the last time. He's got me all worried that it's fallen out, or gone AWOL or something. I had the doctor who inserted it cut the threads fairly short and it's not feelable with fingers.

How likely is it that it's gone and I'm not currently protected? It seems pretty unlikely, right? I want to make an appointment with my doctor, but she's only available tomorrow, and work won't give me the time off. So naturally I'm turning to the internet for medical advice.

I've had my IUD for 6 months or so, and I've not had children, so my cervix was, apparently, pretty tight when the doctor inserted it.

E: Doing some impromptu research after posting in a mild panic on SA has led me to believe that a) it's possible, b) I should see a doctor and c) I will be going on a fishing trip for strings tonight. I feel ignorant as hell for saying it, but I've not ever checked the strings myself because it makes me uncomfortable. First time for everything!

It's possible your strings are just soft or curled way back in there where even he can't feel them. Also your cervix tends to move higher/further back during sex so that could be a factor as well. I know sometimes I can only just barely feel mine because they've gotten pushed back around my cervix.

It's kind of awkward, but I've found if it's hard to reach your strings normally sometimes going into a squatting position first makes it a lot easier to find them if they're way up in there. If you still have no luck there and you can convince him, have your husband feel around for them.

Geolicious
Oct 21, 2003

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark.
Lipstick Apathy
I may have my guy see if he can feel them the next time we're together. They're supposed to feel like fishing line and he's a fisher so maybe he can spot them.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

fork bomb posted:

Implanon has been so awesome for me. There's been some wonky bleeding, but nothing deal-breaking in the grand scheme of things. There's no hormone rollercoaster like Depo, and no daily/weekly/monthly responsibility. Three fuckin years mang.

That's why I love the IUD. I'm a grad student. I don't even remember to eat every day. Asking me to remember to take the same pill the same time of day every day was just not gonna happen.

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


Geolicious posted:

I may have my guy see if he can feel them the next time we're together. They're supposed to feel like fishing line and he's a fisher so maybe he can spot them.

Yeah, that's a pretty good description of what they feel like. At my doctor, they let me feel the leftover pieces of the strings after they trimmed everything up so I'd know what I was looking for. They also had me practice feeling for them while everyone was still in the room, which felt a little odd, but I guess no big deal considering what they had just been doing.

I gotta say it's definitely a strange experience at first to reach into your vagina and feel fishing line in there.

Kimmalah fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Feb 13, 2013

Geolicious
Oct 21, 2003

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark.
Lipstick Apathy
Yeah I got to feel the leftover bits too but I'll be damned if I can find the buggers now :/

jacksbrat
Oct 15, 2012

I'm getting Implanon soon and I was thinking about the possibility of ending up with no bleeds. What do those of you who don't get periods do as assurance that you're not pregnant? I know the main causes of being pregnant on the implant are incorrect insertion and being pregnant before insertion and that the likelihood of being pregnant is almost negligibly small but I really don't want to figure out I'm pregnant when I'm already 3 months along. Do you take a pregnancy test once in a while? Or is it just not worth worrying about?

Bollock Monkey
Jan 21, 2007

The Almighty

jacksbrat posted:

Or is it just not worth worrying about?
Pretty much. The point of contraception is that is prevents conception, y'know? And the hormones from the implant sure as hell won't be going anywhere but into your system!

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

jacksbrat posted:

I'm getting Implanon soon and I was thinking about the possibility of ending up with no bleeds. What do those of you who don't get periods do as assurance that you're not pregnant? I know the main causes of being pregnant on the implant are incorrect insertion and being pregnant before insertion and that the likelihood of being pregnant is almost negligibly small but I really don't want to figure out I'm pregnant when I'm already 3 months along. Do you take a pregnancy test once in a while? Or is it just not worth worrying about?
It's not "incorrect insertion" like the doctor put it in upside-down or something, it's "incorrect insertion" as in the doctor accidentally dropped the implant on the floor and didn't realize your arm is still empty. I'm serious, that was actually the issue. If you can feel it in your arm, that's not you.

For women who actually have Implanon, it's literally the most effective option out there. It's more effective than sterilization! It's really not worth worrying about.

The only caveat is that if you're obese, it may theoretically run out sooner than 3 years. In that case you should notice your period returning, though, so you could get it replaced earlier.

e: I've been on Implanon since...2007? After initially settling into it, I haven't had a period since. Some occasional light spotting, but that's it. I don't know how normal women put up with periods; I would never go back. To me, having a period seems like getting major dental work without anesthesia: I know you could, everybody used to, I would survive if I had to...but come on, this is the future, there's no need for that.

Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Feb 13, 2013

fine-tune
Mar 31, 2004

If you want to be a EE, bend over and grab your knees...

jacksbrat posted:

I'm getting Implanon soon and I was thinking about the possibility of ending up with no bleeds. What do those of you who don't get periods do as assurance that you're not pregnant? I know the main causes of being pregnant on the implant are incorrect insertion and being pregnant before insertion and that the likelihood of being pregnant is almost negligibly small but I really don't want to figure out I'm pregnant when I'm already 3 months along. Do you take a pregnancy test once in a while? Or is it just not worth worrying about?

Nexplanon solves the "incorrect insertion" bit by holding the implant in such a way that it won't fall out of the insertion device (and it's visible on x-rays) and it clicks audibly when the implant is in. Office policy at my doc's office is to do a pregnancy test (urine sample) before IUD or implant insertions, so that is also pretty well handled. Right after it was inserted and had the first bandage on, my doc palpated it and then had me do the same. To be honest, I feel so much less stressed now that I have the implant since I can't forget to use it. No alarms going off an inconvenient times. No prescription refills. It is in my arm, releasing progestin like it's supposed to. If you're still worried, definitely bring it up with your doctor. He/she can likely help with your anxieties and discuss the mechanics of the device, which might help.

Trip report: I'm about 9 weeks in and have only had spotting and a mild uptick in very tiny acne (combined pill was nixing that). The spotting has been very regular and nothing particularly annoying to deal with. My doc seemed to think that I might be one of the lucky ones who has amenorrhea after a couple more months (this is apparently a thing if you're on the smaller side?).

Bollock Monkey
Jan 21, 2007

The Almighty
Man, I wish Implanon had worked out for me so badly. I miss the convenience of not having to take anything.

Sockmuppet
Aug 15, 2009
A friend of mine got pregnant while on a contraceptive implant, right before she was scheduled to replace it, but her doctor assured her that the symptoms she was concerned about were just side effects, and inserted a new one. Nine months later, boom, magical surprise baby.
I guess my advice is to pee on a stick if you're the least bit concerned.

(Like Anne said, she was pretty huge, which explains both the getting pregnant bit and the surprise baby bit.)

Eggplant Wizard
Jul 8, 2005


i loev catte

Sockmuppet posted:

A friend of mine got pregnant while on a contraceptive implant, right before she was scheduled to replace it, but her doctor assured her that the symptoms she was concerned about were just side effects, and inserted a new one. Nine months later, boom, magical surprise baby.
I guess my advice is to pee on a stick if you're the least bit concerned.

(Like Anne said, she was pretty huge, which explains both the getting pregnant bit and the surprise baby bit.)

:stare: Did she notice before labor, or is this one of those 'I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant" things?

Sockmuppet
Aug 15, 2009

Eggplant Wizard posted:

:stare: Did she notice before labor, or is this one of those 'I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant" things?

She went to the ER with back pain and was told she was in labour :v:

To be fair to her, she's not stupid, it was just a perfect storm of factors coming together, and probably a bit of: "No. That couldn't possibly be it..." towards the end. The last time I hung out with her was two weeks before she gave birth, and the thought that she might be pregnant never crossed my mind. No one believed them when they announced on facebook that they'd become parents, we all though they'd bought a dog or something.

Geolicious
Oct 21, 2003

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark.
Lipstick Apathy
She pulled a Peggy Olson.

My worst fear ever. Ever.

Twatty Seahag
Dec 30, 2007
As someone who's pushed out a kid, this is always so crazy to me. I am average-sized and it was like having an alien churning inside me from like 20 weeks on. :aaaaa:

EDIT: outside of some light cramps, I feel totally normal today after getting my Mirena yesterday. Woohoo!

Twatty Seahag fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Feb 14, 2013

Geolicious
Oct 21, 2003

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark.
Lipstick Apathy
I have a friend, a small framed friend at that, who didn't know she was pregnant (on Depo) until 7 months along. It makes me :aaaaa: every time she tells me the story.

I mean being (unplanned) pregnant would be bad enough, but there's a window you can do something about it.

I mean, like, HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW!?!?! Obviously there are some women who don't but oh god.

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


Geolicious posted:

I have a friend, a small framed friend at that, who didn't know she was pregnant (on Depo) until 7 months along. It makes me :aaaaa: every time she tells me the story.

I mean being (unplanned) pregnant would be bad enough, but there's a window you can do something about it.

I mean, like, HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW!?!?! Obviously there are some women who don't but oh god.

I don't know, my mom always said kicking felt kind of like gas bubbles or something at times (until towards the end when there wasn't room in there anymore). Also like Sockmuppet said, there's probably a major element of denial as in "I know I'm on Depo/Implanon so that weird feeling in my stomach and my lack of periods can't possibly be a baby."

And as I understand it you can't even feel the baby at all until you're pretty far into the pregnancy.

Kimmalah fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Feb 14, 2013

Geolicious
Oct 21, 2003

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark.
Lipstick Apathy
True. I can see denial playing a part. It can be powerful.

I've managed to convince myself I have been pregnant many, many times, so I'd like to think I'd catch it early.

I keep a stash of pee sticks on hand at all times.

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


Geolicious posted:

True. I can see denial playing a part. It can be powerful.

I've managed to convince myself I have been pregnant many, many times, so I'd like to think I'd catch it early.

I keep a stash of pee sticks on hand at all times.

Oh yeah, I've been there a few times too. :hfive: I used to keep a stash of pregnancy tests around, but I don't so much anymore since I still had periods on the pill and now with Paragard.

That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk
BlueOccamy told me I should come back in here and talk about my experiences with my tubal, since that topic had come up lately for discussion.

Some of you might remember that several months back, I posted mentioning that I was seeing my gyno for my yearly and had mentioned to her that I have very severe anxiety about becoming pregnant, to the point where it's greatly impacted the intimacy level of my almost 10-year marriage. I've had a failure on BC before ("the patch") and aborted, and ever since then I've been on Ortho Nuvera ("the ring"). The thought of ever having children of my own terrifies me - I completely own that I will never make a good parent, and can not bring myself to even begin to entertain the thought of bringing life into this world. Aside that, I really just detest children and my first instinct when I see/hear a crying child is to smack it rather than comfort it. Just.. really not motherly material, all said and done.

At any rate, after explaining all of this to my gyno and mentioning that I wanted something more long-term like the implant, she suggested permanent sterilization as an option. Of course, I was like 'gently caress YEAH!' and signed all the paperwork then and there, and hauled my husband in as soon as I could to finish up the rest of what I needed him to sign (In NC, because we're backward as hell, you still have to get spousal permission to be sterilized. Awful.)

Well, anyway, the surgery itself wasn't that awful. The moment I woke up I was in awful pain, but the recovery room nurse fed me morphine like candy until I stopped whining about it. The doctor came in shortly after to inform me that she had made a small discovery while inside - that I have quite a case of endometriosis and that she ablated/burned off some lesions that were on the outside of my uterus/ovaries. They got me packed up and sent home the same day.

Everything seemed to be mending well enough, except that I was having a lot of very strange, focused pain on the right side, sort of just inside my hip bone, right where my ovary would be. On top of that, I was having a lot of trouble going to the bathroom - not necessarily pain, but more like all my muscles were so tense that when I tried to pee I had to just really focus on relaxing before I was able to go. On top of that, even after waiting nearly three months post-surgery, every time we had sex, if it was a certain angle where he hit my cervix it felt literally like needles were being stabbed into me, and would bleed so much that it seemed like I'd been cut wide open.

I called my gyno about this, and after having me come in and check me out, she determined that I had some sort of bladder infection and put me on antibiotics. After finishing the entire course of them, the pain in my side never went away and I was still having issue using the toilet, and so I went back in to her and she re-checked my urine... and I still somehow had an infection. So, back on antibiotics. A month and a half later, still not better. Back in again, recheck... Still infection, so they send me to a specialist. He checks me, finds that there's blood and infection in my urine (which we already knew) and then gives me the BS answer that "some women just have blood in their urine" and no explanation at all for the sometimes completely crippling pain I have in my side.

I had my surgery on September 10th, 2012. It's now Feb 14th, 2013. I'm still in a lot of pain, though the cervical pain and bleeding has mostly stopped. Is it too much to expect to be completely pain free from such a surgery in just five or six months? I don't think so, but I do expect that I shouldn't be having the discomfort level that I am. All that aside, having gotten this surgery has given me a peace of mind that I never, ever had while on BC, and for that I would never second-guess my decision for a second.

As for cost breakdown, I don't have the entire bill right in front of me but here are the figures as I had noted them to a friend. This was done through a private OBGYN, done at a public hospital:

Recovery Room: $1164.66
Supplies: $885
Supplies/Implants: $270
Eexcise Lesions: $3710.47
Tubal Block: $1855

And, of course, various other misc. charges that added up to a grand total of:
$8402.55

I don't really know how the cost of the ablation of the endometriosis could cost more than the entire rest of the surgery, but.. I guess that's modern medicine for you? Not like I could say no to it, right? :/

That Damn Satyr fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Feb 14, 2013

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


Yeah, that was me bring up the topic of a tubal. I'm sorry to hear it hasn't exactly gone well for you recovery-wise. If you don't mind me asking, I do have a few questions:

- How old were you at the time? Because I'm thinking even though I'm in my late 20s, there might still be a lot of resistance due to that.

- Did you have health insurance paying for any of that and if so, is that what you had to pay out of pocket?

- This one might be hard to tell since you've had so many other issues, but I've heard some women complaining of things like heavier or irregular periods and increased moodiness/PMS symptoms after a tubal. Have you had anything like that?

Sockmuppet
Aug 15, 2009

NaturalLow posted:

Also like Sockmuppet said, there's probably a major element of denial as in "I know I'm on Depo/Implanon so that weird feeling in my stomach and my lack of periods can't possibly be a baby."

And as I understand it you can't even feel the baby at all until you're pretty far into the pregnancy.

I'm pretty skinny and I've got a big-rear end bump going, but because I've got an anterior placenta I didn't feel the slightest movement from the kid until the end of week 20, and I only noticed something then because I was actively feeling for it every night. If I didn't know there was a baby in there I'd've written it of as gas without a second thought, and I still haven't felt anything I would've regarded as remotely suspicious had I not known about the kid.

And in her case she got occasional bleeds throughout the entire pregnancy (definitely aiding in the "can't be pregnant"-thought process), she had a small baby and a tall torso, so the baby had lots of room to grow inwards and upwards instead of outwards, an anterior placenta blocking most of the kicks and punches, she was pretty huge, but it was very nicely and evenly distributed, not suspiciously in the stomach area (as I said, I saw her two weeks before the birth and didn't suspect a thing), and she didn't get morning sickness or any of the big give-away symptoms, just got tired more easily towards the end, and the symptoms she did get conveniently matched the listed side effects from the implant.

My point being, this really isn't something you need to worry about, because so many things have to come together for it to happen :)

mau
Jan 13, 2013

Sockmuppet posted:

My point being, this really isn't something you need to worry about, because so many things have to come together for it to happen :)

My guess is I'll still start obsessively peeing on sticks. :staredog:


I also have a question to people who used to have hormonal BC with no periods: how long did it take for your periods to settle into a regular cycle after the removal? I had my Mirena removed and a copper IUD (Flexi T-something, I think) inserted in late October and have since had two periods. I had forgotten how much irregular periods and waiting to get your period suck, ugh. I'm driving myself crazy.

jacksbrat
Oct 15, 2012

Thanks for the replies all. If I end up without bleeds (which I would kinda like in many ways!) I think I'll just buy some home tests and test twice or three times a year to be sure. I mean, I guess the cost of the tests would be counterbalanced by the lack of tampon costs.

GabrielAisling
Dec 21, 2011

The finest of all dances.

jacksbrat posted:

Thanks for the replies all. If I end up without bleeds (which I would kinda like in many ways!) I think I'll just buy some home tests and test twice or three times a year to be sure. I mean, I guess the cost of the tests would be counterbalanced by the lack of tampon costs.

Even the good pregnancy tests are pretty cheap nowadays. And if you end up having a period, you can always get a menstrual cup and be rid of tampons forever.

Content, so as not to start a cup derail:

The estrogen-laden brand pill the nurse put me on is so weird the pharmacy didn't even have it. It's supposed to be here today though, and I'm terrified that I'm gonna end up exactly where I was two weeks ago with the depression. If I stay like this, I can go off my antidepressants and be able to write again!
I don't know what to do. I kind of want to go see a real gyno and talk to him/her (preferably her) about my options. The health center has plenty of adverts for the big brands like mirena and implanon, so I'm sure they're able to do them, but it seems like she's just pushing old pill after old pill at me because it's all she really knows how to do.

gabi
Sep 10, 2008
Currently going for 32 cents a test for the no-frills ones, woo.

Weird note: my periods never went away with Mirena, but they have with Implanon. :iiam:

Edit: Holy poo poo, That drat Satyr. That's pretty similar to what happened to me after my Mirena was inserted. Now I know I get to push my partner towards a vasectomy instead of hoping the same thing doesn't happen again. That sucks though, I'm sorry. :smith:

gabi fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Feb 14, 2013

Eggplant Wizard
Jul 8, 2005


i loev catte

GabrielAisling posted:

Even the good pregnancy tests are pretty cheap nowadays. And if you end up having a period, you can always get a menstrual cup and be rid of tampons forever.

Content, so as not to start a cup derail:

The estrogen-laden brand pill the nurse put me on is so weird the pharmacy didn't even have it. It's supposed to be here today though, and I'm terrified that I'm gonna end up exactly where I was two weeks ago with the depression. If I stay like this, I can go off my antidepressants and be able to write again!
I don't know what to do. I kind of want to go see a real gyno and talk to him/her (preferably her) about my options. The health center has plenty of adverts for the big brands like mirena and implanon, so I'm sure they're able to do them, but it seems like she's just pushing old pill after old pill at me because it's all she really knows how to do.

I have had good luck with nurse practitioners (I'm assuming this is what you mean because a nurse can't prescribe) in the past, but if you're interested in non-pill/patch/ring type options, then yeah the nurse practitioners can't prescribe them. You should be able to see an MD at your health center if you insist on it.

Remember that the idea that it's estrogen in your pill is causing your side effects is just a suggestion from a stranger on the internet. We do not know that. You can say you want to try a minipill (use backup condoms at the same time to be safe if you're bad at pills) and you can be firm about it, but you do not know for sure what you're reacting to.

I also don't necessarily recommend jumping off your antidepressants anytime soon because sadly 2 weeks is not that long of a 'good period' :( Are you under the care of a psychiatrist or just the health center doctors?

re: periods, Mirena. I still get them, and they're slightly irregular (28 +/- 4 days, roughly) but basically the same as before I was on the pill.

That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk

NaturalLow posted:

Yeah, that was me bring up the topic of a tubal. I'm sorry to hear it hasn't exactly gone well for you recovery-wise. If you don't mind me asking, I do have a few questions:

- How old were you at the time? Because I'm thinking even though I'm in my late 20s, there might still be a lot of resistance due to that.

- Did you have health insurance paying for any of that and if so, is that what you had to pay out of pocket?

- This one might be hard to tell since you've had so many other issues, but I've heard some women complaining of things like heavier or irregular periods and increased moodiness/PMS symptoms after a tubal. Have you had anything like that?

I don't mind questions at all. :)

I was (and still am) 27. Back when I was younger, when I had the BC failure, I asked for sterilization then and the refused it because I was so young and they said I'd certainly change my mind. I was.. gosh, maybe 22 or 23 then. I think a lot of what swayed my doctor is that I did haul my husband in and he told her how I have panic attacks from the time we have sex until my period comes and it completely destroyed any chance at intimacy we ever had.

I have Medicare/Medicaid due to my awful anxiety and depression, I was declared disabled in ~2005. They paid for everything with absolutely no questions asked at all.

I've got to run right now, but I do actually have a longish answer to your last question that I'll post about because it's actually sort of tangety and funny but the short answer is yes: there is definitely a difference but it's been 100% good.

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


That drat Satyr posted:

I don't mind questions at all. :)

I was (and still am) 27. Back when I was younger, when I had the BC failure, I asked for sterilization then and the refused it because I was so young and they said I'd certainly change my mind. I was.. gosh, maybe 22 or 23 then. I think a lot of what swayed my doctor is that I did haul my husband in and he told her how I have panic attacks from the time we have sex until my period comes and it completely destroyed any chance at intimacy we ever had.

I have Medicare/Medicaid due to my awful anxiety and depression, I was declared disabled in ~2005. They paid for everything with absolutely no questions asked at all.

I've got to run right now, but I do actually have a longish answer to your last question that I'll post about because it's actually sort of tangety and funny but the short answer is yes: there is definitely a difference but it's been 100% good.

That's interesting, considering I'll be 27 in a month or so. Of course I don't have a husband to vouch for me.

Definitely feel free to post anything you can. The after effects on things like mood and your period are actually kind of what I was most interested in really. I've seen a lot of that online, but I wasn't sure how much of it to believe since you know, internet.

InEscape
Nov 10, 2006

stuck.

GabrielAisling posted:

Even the good pregnancy tests are pretty cheap nowadays. And if you end up having a period, you can always get a menstrual cup and be rid of tampons forever.

Content, so as not to start a cup derail:

The estrogen-laden brand pill the nurse put me on is so weird the pharmacy didn't even have it. It's supposed to be here today though, and I'm terrified that I'm gonna end up exactly where I was two weeks ago with the depression. If I stay like this, I can go off my antidepressants and be able to write again!
I don't know what to do. I kind of want to go see a real gyno and talk to him/her (preferably her) about my options. The health center has plenty of adverts for the big brands like mirena and implanon, so I'm sure they're able to do them, but it seems like she's just pushing old pill after old pill at me because it's all she really knows how to do.

I've been reading your posts in this thread and while it's fabulous that you are feeling better, your posts seem to indicate (again, like EW said, to a stranger on the Internet) that you are definitely still working through some anxiety about this. Try not to jump to conclusions about the cause of your depression and anxiety.

Give the new pill a try but if it isn't working for you, just be extra firm with the NP. "I want a progestin-only option" very firmly will definitely do the trick.

That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk

NaturalLow posted:

This one might be hard to tell since you've had so many other issues, but I've heard some women complaining of things like heavier or irregular periods and increased moodiness/PMS symptoms after a tubal. Have you had anything like that?

Sorry about cutting this one short, hubs was going to be late for class and was fussing at me. :ohdear:

I actually came off of my BC a while before I had the surgery done. It took a while to get all the paperwork and stuff done, and once I had my yearly exam done since I was getting the tubal they didn't bother refilling my prescription, so when it ran out that was it. I didn't really bother trying to get a refill, since we were abstaining anyway because of my stupid anxiety, so in the end it didn't really matter if I had it or not. By the time I had the surgery done I'd say it had been about two months that I'd been off, and by that time my body was already going "LOLWTF NO!" and I was an emotional mess: easily crying, fits of random rage, hot- and cold- flashes, etc. At first, I thought it was my thyroid as I have an under-active one and have to take medication, but finally we put things together and figured it was my body finally starting to go back to normal.

The biggest change, however, is something that my husband noticed. He said that somehow I'm just overall "nicer". We sat down and talked about it for a while, and pinpointed that the best we can figure is that the exact time that my mental state changed was around the time I went on the NuvaRing - before then I was really into sex, gave no fucks about anything, and was pretty chill. After that, I became very moody, easy to anger, very anxious and worrisome about every little thing, ridiculously self-conscious, and bristling with rage at every little slight. He said that he noticed that I was mellowing back out when I came off the BC, but that post-surgery it was like night and day, like some sort of darkness had been lifted off of me. I don't know if that's exactly fitting what you're asking, but I do feel quite different even though I am having pain, it's like... well, like I mentioned above, I have a bad thyroid and the only thing I can compare it to is how I feel when I don't take my medication for that is how I felt before. Just.. very touchy, irritable and rough, and now it's just like not every little thing has to be a huge drama event.

And, of course, there's the relief of anxiety, which is the hugest thing for me. I was really worried (so much worry!) that even after I had this surgery I wouldn't be able to put the nagging feeling of "OH GOD YOU'RE PREGGO GO PEE ON A STICK" out of my mind. Thankfully, somehow something in my head clicked over and it's been very far out of my mind and I've barely thought about it at all, much less had any worrying despite the lack of periods... which leads to the other question:

As for heavier/irregular periods, unfortunately it's very difficult for me to judge that because before I went on BC when I was a teen my periods were very irregular - I went from age 14-17 and only had like 5 periods, total. Since I've had my tubal/been off of BC, I've had two periods, one of which was very light and lasted like 2.5 days, and one that was heavier and lasted about 4 days (and that one was the first post-surgery). In terms of pain, however, with both of them it was very bad. I expect though that the reason for that is more the irritated endometriosis in there, than anything related to the tubal, as everything on my left side feels 100% fine.

Eggplant Wizard
Jul 8, 2005


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I am really just so happy for you :3: It sounds like this was an amazing life change for the better. I hope you get your pain sorted out soon.

Kaini Industries
Jul 3, 2007
I've had my Mirena for about 2 years now. Since starting, I've had my period twice (about once per year). I'm just wondering if anyone else experiences this? I've read some forums online about similar situations, and it seems like everyone freaks out about it, thinking there's something wrong...but since this has happened to me before (my last period was about 15 months ago) and nothing seemed wrong, I'm not really worried. I'm just curious how common this is.

EDIT: The one thing that I find really odd is the PMS that comes along with it. I used to get 'standard' PMS maybe two or three times a year, but the two times I've had my period the last two years have been awful. It's almost like 15 months of hormones and emotions come out in a day or two; I've been weepy all day! Called my girlfriend and bawled over everything and anything. Maybe it's because I'm just not used to it anymore though

Kaini Industries fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Feb 15, 2013

Eggplant Wizard
Jul 8, 2005


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Kaini Industries posted:

I've had my Mirena for about 2 years now. Since starting, I've had my period twice (about once per year). I'm just wondering if anyone else experiences this? I've read some forums online about similar situations, and it seems like everyone freaks out about it, thinking there's something wrong...but since this has happened to me before (my last period was about 15 months ago) and nothing seemed wrong, I'm not really worried. I'm just curious how common this is.

I think it's 20% of Mirena users who lose their periods entirely within the first year, and even more after that. Anyway yeah not an issue. Called "amenorrhea" if you want to google it.

Geolicious
Oct 21, 2003

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I've only had one period since I had mine put in last June two weeks after insertion. Nothing since. I still get cramps though.

I am embracing it, frankly.

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


That drat Satyr posted:

Lots of great information.

No worries about cutting it short! :) Your post actually made me feel a little better since I've seen so many "Oh god my tubal made my periods a nightmare and gave me horrible PMS/cramps/a second head! :byodame: " My pregnancy anxiety hasn't been as severe as yours, but I still think it would be a big weight lifted off me if I could ever get it done. And though my mood is more even-keeled on the pill, I get a bad case of the "blahs" and then there's the 2-3 excruciating migraines I was having every month.

Your answers have been a huge help to me! I hope you start feeling better soon. :)

fork bomb
Apr 26, 2010

:shroom::shroom:

NaturalLow posted:

What kind of stories are you looking for? I kind of jumped from one worry-free birth control to another, but I did rely solely on condoms for probably at least 6 months before that. I never got pregnant, never had any scares and none of them ever broke or anything. If you want extra security, would it be possible for you to get Plan B? That way you have it right there if something happens and you think you might need it. Plus you would just have some extra peace of mind from the knowledge that it's there. That's what I did anyway since I have major pregnancy anxiety off BC.

NaturalLow, thanks for this post, and I'm sorry I skipped over responding to it. This was kinda what I was looking for, I guess I just needed reassurance/reminders that people don't immediately get pregnant when they're only using condoms. :ohdear:

I've used Plan B in the way past when I flunked the pill and had not yet graduated to Depo. My Implanon removal has been moved up from April 8th to March 25th. It's so weird to know that my uterus is not going to be an unstormable fortress. :black101:

uptown
May 16, 2009
I just wanted to drop in and post that after a rough start with my IUD last January that I posted about in this thread, I absolutely love it a year later. The first few months were rough - I started by having a vasovagal reaction to getting it put in, which SUCKED, but two hours of intense cramping later, I was good to go to my afternoon class. I spotted pretty frequently for a few months, which also wasn't the greatest, but pantiliners are a lifesaver. I had a few periods that would start off with a normal amount of blood and just taper down to weeks of spotting, but by mid-July or early August, I had stopped bleeding completely and haven't menstruated since! I adore not getting my period, and after taking the pill for about 6 years, I was just sick of having to swallow something every day. Having a regular period was nice, and it was getting shorter and shorter (I was down to ~3 days) but none is better.

Edit: Ha, looking at my previous posts it looks like I'm exaggerating now - My cramping lasted about half an hour according to my first post! I also posted previously that I wouldn't get another IUD put in due to the reaction I had... That's changed too. If, for some reason, 4 years from now when I'm 27 and my boyfriend (hopefully husband by then...) is 37, we still aren't sure if we're ready for the permanent fix of a vasectomy, I'll get another IUD put in. I might ask him if I can punch him in the nuts if I have another vasovagal reaction, though. That sounds like a fair tradeoff.

uptown fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Feb 15, 2013

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Twatty Seahag
Dec 30, 2007
I told my husband that when the 5 years are up, next one's his deal. 15 years of the pill, pregnancy and labor, and a Mirena insertion and I'm DONE. :colbert:

I have continued to have mild cramping and brown spotting but so far so good.

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