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9031 | 65.25% |
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1603 | 11.58% |
| Waa |
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748 | 5.40% |
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I don't know why people want to play as Peach so badly in Mario games. It's bad enough the games have capes and raccoon tails that break most of the platforming difficulty but people want a character that can float for three seconds on top of that. Waluigi would be a much better character. Give him tremendously unforgiving sharp gravity, but instead of a spin jump he will strike poo poo with a tennis racket/strikers ball and go "Nya-ha-ha! Waluigi time!"
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Feb 14, 2013 22:31
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greatn posted:Come on man, if the most iconic thing about a character is "wears a skirt"that character desperately needs an upgrade. You literally don't understand anything, do you? They're not going to get rid of Mario's overalls or hat, either. You're dealing with some of the most powerful brands in the world inside of a game that is supposed to be the de facto representation of that brand. Significant changes to characters that can be easily identified in silhouette are a big deal. Bobnumerotres posted:Uhhh it's not the internet, it would be a sound decision. If Microsoft and Sony show off the ~true~ next gen and Nintendo doesn't bring any big guns all the media buzz will be surrounding their new products for months instead of Nintendo's. quote:Most of the major games are already confirmed to be in development (and will be at E3) and knowing Nintendo they haven't shown their hand yet, and are saving it for the show.
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Feb 14, 2013 22:32
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Iacen posted:Let's be honest here: I know goons are really excited about both Pikmin and Monster Hunter, but do you consider both games something that'll appeal to the casual* consumer? Monster Hunter in particular doesn't really strike me as a game that'll really set fire to the world, apart from who've bought a Wii U specifically for playing the game. Somewhat yes to Pikmin, no to Monster Hunter.
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Feb 14, 2013 22:34
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The real answer is to just replace one of the toads with Wario. Who cares if he isn't allowed to fart, even a more or less generic playing Wario is much preferable to the two toads system.
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Feb 14, 2013 22:39
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theflyingorc posted:You literally don't understand anything, do you? They're not going to get rid of Mario's overalls or hat, either. You're dealing with some of the most powerful brands in the world inside of a game that is supposed to be the de facto representation of that brand. Significant changes to characters that can be easily identified in silhouette are a big deal. http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/mario_tennis_3ds_conceptart_qdqzp.jpg http://images.wikia.com/mario/images/c/c4/Mario_Kart_Wii_-_Peach_motorbike.jpg It wouldn't even be the first time she doesn't have the "iconic" dress.
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Feb 14, 2013 22:39
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theflyingorc posted:Somewhat yes to Pikmin, no to Monster Hunter. Monster Hunter sells to monster hunter fans. Tri was moderately successful in America (not by Capcom's standards but nothing ever is since they honest-to-God expect CoD numbers), so maybe TriU will do well too. But I'm really doubting it because of the following factors: 1. It is America 2. Most MH fans were expecting their big HD number to be on the PS3 or PS3/360, not exclusive to a new Nintendo console. 3. WiiU sales all over the place due to MH being the only major game release in over a month. On top of that, MH is a really niche series here in the U.S.. Even most core gamers, the ones that pay attention to gaming news, either don't know it exists or only have a vague idea of what the gently caress it is. extremebuff fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Feb 14, 2013 |
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Feb 14, 2013 22:40
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/mario_tennis_3ds_conceptart_qdqzp.jpg There is a difference between the tennis game and a main-series sidescroller, and her tennis outfit still works to hold the general shape (and overall feel) of the usual outfit. Bobnumerotres posted:Monster Hunter sells to monster hunter fans. Tri was moderately successful in America (not by Capcom's standards but nothing ever is since they honest-to-God expect CoD numbers), so maybe TriU will do well too. But I'm really doubting it because of the following factors: theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Feb 14, 2013 |
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Feb 14, 2013 22:41
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Cliff Racer posted:The real answer is to just replace one of the toads with Wario. Who cares if he isn't allowed to fart, even a more or less generic playing Wario is much preferable to the two toads system. This is exactly what they should do. (and replace the second Toad with Waluigi)
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Feb 14, 2013 22:43
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I purchased a WiiU right after the Nintendo Wind Waker remake was announced (I am a sucker) and just got around to taking it out of the package today. The update has been written about ad nauseam but after finally getting into the system, I just can't get over how slow everything is to load. I know Nintendo says there are fixes coming, but this isn't 2005. How they launched it this way, I don't understand. Anyway, I haven't even bothered to try and play anything on it, I just can't be bothered.
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Feb 14, 2013 22:45
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theflyingorc posted:These games aren't going to simply materialize BECAUSE THE INTERNET THINKS THEY NEED THEM FOR E3, I don't get what you people aren't understanding about this. "Man, E3 has been so bad this year, all Nintendo has to do is show up!" -- swirl transition -- "WHAT THE gently caress WAS THAT"
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Feb 14, 2013 22:47
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Secht posted:I purchased a WiiU right after the Nintendo Wind Waker remake was announced (I am a sucker) and just got around to taking it out of the package today. The update has been written about ad nauseam but after finally getting into the system, I just can't get over how slow everything is to load. I know Nintendo says there are fixes coming, but this isn't 2005. How they launched it this way, I don't understand. Anyway, I haven't even bothered to try and play anything on it, I just can't be bothered. It's only Miiverse->home menu/game stuff. Everything else is really fast. They launched it this way because it was in a mad rush for the Holiday season and they wanted to get a year-long edge (or more) on Microsoft and Sony's next offerings. Japan actually got the WiiU like a month and a half after the U.S., that's how rushed it was.
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Feb 14, 2013 22:48
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theflyingorc posted:You literally don't understand anything, do you? They're not going to get rid of Mario's overalls or hat, either. You're dealing with some of the most powerful brands in the world inside of a game that is supposed to be the de facto representation of that brand. Significant changes to characters that can be easily identified in silhouette are a big deal.
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Feb 14, 2013 22:48
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theflyingorc posted:You literally don't understand anything, do you? They're not going to get rid of Mario's overalls or hat, either. You're dealing with some of the most powerful brands in the world inside of a game that is supposed to be the de facto representation of that brand. Significant changes to characters that can be easily identified in silhouette are a big deal. Nintendo released a major Mario platformer title where peach wore shorts and had her hair in a ponytail. This is reaching pretty far to counter the revolutionary notion of "hey maybe it would be nice to have the female character be playable, instead of literally inventing two generic identical male characters nobody likes".
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Feb 14, 2013 22:49
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Secht posted:I purchased a WiiU right after the Nintendo Wind Waker remake was announced (I am a sucker) and just got around to taking it out of the package today. The update has been written about ad nauseam but after finally getting into the system, I just can't get over how slow everything is to load. I know Nintendo says there are fixes coming, but this isn't 2005. How they launched it this way, I don't understand. Anyway, I haven't even bothered to try and play anything on it, I just can't be bothered. Really? How slow is it going? Mine loads about as fast as my ps3 does. Its could use some improvment but its not at all an experience killer.
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Feb 14, 2013 22:50
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Supercar Gautier posted:Nintendo released a major Mario platformer title where peach wore shorts and had her hair in a ponytail. This is reaching pretty far to counter the revolutionary notion of "hey maybe it would be nice to have the female character be playable, instead of literally inventing two generic identical male characters nobody likes". Which game are you referring to? And yes, not keeping the visual language consistent from game to game actually can be brand damaging. Co-oping the overalls and re-contextualizing it might not be too terrible, but keeping characters as massive as the main Mario cast instantly recognizable regardless of context is A Huge Deal(tm). Mickey Mouse is literally the only brand I can think of that might be more iconic.
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Feb 14, 2013 23:04
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Supercar Gautier posted:Nintendo released a major Mario platformer title where peach wore shorts and had her hair in a ponytail. This is reaching pretty far to counter the revolutionary notion of "hey maybe it would be nice to have the female character be playable, instead of literally inventing two generic identical male characters nobody likes". What? A lot of people like Toad! Which is weird, because I've always seen him as super generic.
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Feb 14, 2013 23:19
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Toad is awesome. He's ambiguous and works great as a unisex character. Same goes with Kirby and Yoshi. But two Toads? Come on Nintendo. "Peach with Mario physiques" is not a game problem.
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Feb 14, 2013 23:28
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:But two Toads? Come on Nintendo. "Peach with Mario physiques" is not a game problem. It is if your mission is to save Peach.
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Feb 14, 2013 23:31
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Bobnumerotres posted:It is if your mission is to save Peach. Oh me oh my how will they ever possibly change the story of Mario to something other than Mario saving Peach? Sorry, bad excuse.
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Feb 14, 2013 23:33
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They could just stick Daisy in and just give everyone their Mario 2 abilities (with Daisy getting the hover).
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Feb 14, 2013 23:34
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greatn posted:Do you seriously think putting Peach or Daisy in overalls would be brand damaging? As someone who works with Brand Managers all the time, yes. In a spinoff side-game not so much, but in the main brand, keep your characters looking how they always look.
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Feb 14, 2013 23:36
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theflyingorc posted:Which game are you referring to? My bad, I got her alternate costume from Super Mario Sunshine mixed up with her alternate costume from some of the Mario sports games. Emphasis on the fact that there was more than one alternate costume for me to mix up in my head. And just to clarify, by "generic" I meant that there are lots of identical-looking toads in the Mario universe, and they threw in two new ones without evening giving them names.
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Feb 14, 2013 23:39
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Toad is awesome. He's ambiguous and works great as a unisex character. Same goes with Kirby and Yoshi. Toad is male because they made a point of introducing Toadette.
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Feb 14, 2013 23:42
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It could at LEAST be Toad and Toadette or something. I still think objections to letting one of the princesses be a character are pretty absurd though. Their excuses of "We would have to make special dress physics" are dumb, no they wouldn't. I guarantee such a move of giving them a normal moveset and making them an optional protagonist would be met with universal praise and help endear the game to women more than it already is.
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Feb 14, 2013 23:46
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You're all forgetting Peach's starring role in Super Princess Peach. She gets really moody and fucks poo poo up. Bring the parasol in and we're golden.
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Feb 14, 2013 23:49
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I don't care if peach is in overalls or a dress or not playable at all, but they really miss out on some extra replayability without having multiple characters with some different characteristics...kind of along the lines of Super Mario Bros 2. Iacen posted:Let's be honest here: I know goons are really excited about both Pikmin and Monster Hunter, but do you consider both games something that'll appeal to the casual* consumer? Monster Hunter in particular doesn't really strike me as a game that'll really set fire to the world, apart from who've bought a Wii U specifically for playing the game. Monster Hunter is definitely not for everybody, at a quick glance someone might take a look at the game and think maybe it's similar to God of War or something which it really isn't. The game takes some skill and there is no lock-on so it's pretty far from mindless bashing of large dinosaur type things. If anything i'd expect there to be some backlash from people who don't know what they are getting themselves into, which is why people should check the demo out when it's available. I think Pikmin has a great chance to reach the more casual market, especially since a lot of people got a very small taste from Nintendoland. On top of that, it looks to be one of the more visually impressive games we've seen so far at least in my opinion.
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Feb 15, 2013 00:05
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Katana Gomai posted:Toad is male because they made a point of introducing Toadette. I meant more that men and women both love and are completely comfortable playing as Toad. Toad is cute. And greatn makes a great point, why wasn't the other Toad a Toadette?
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Feb 15, 2013 00:08
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Why would anyone honestly want a playable Toadette? Nintendo filling in its derth of female characters with "Its ____ but a girl" is the dumbest thing and I can't believe people actually enjoy it.
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Feb 15, 2013 00:10
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They should add Birdo. Problem solved.
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Feb 15, 2013 00:37
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Mario, Luigi, Toad and Yoshi. When everybody else gets a Yoshi to ride, Yoshi rides a somewhat smaller Mario, making everybody uncomfortable.
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Feb 15, 2013 00:46
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Soul Glo posted:Mario, Luigi, Toad and Yoshi. When everybody else gets a Yoshi to ride, Yoshi rides a somewhat smaller Mario, making everybody uncomfortable. Mario could say things like, "I now understand your pain"
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Feb 15, 2013 00:47
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Mario could say things like, "I now understand your pain" Yoshi punches Smaller Mario to make him eat things and he says "Mama-mia, noooooo" in a high pitched tone.
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Feb 15, 2013 00:49
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Soul Glo posted:Yoshi punches Smaller Mario to make him eat things and he says "Mama-mia, noooooo" in a high pitched tone. Hearing Mario cry while you jump off his back to reach a higher ledge would be the most satisfying experience.
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Feb 15, 2013 00:52
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These all seem like pretty stupid excuses and they could just use Peach as traditionally designed as one of the 4 characters.
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Feb 15, 2013 01:33
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Zelder posted:What? A lot of people like Toad! Which is weird, because I've always seen him as super generic. He's the underdog of the supporting cast, but was honestly my favorite Mario 2 (US) character since he could dig things up super fast and ran really fast.
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Feb 15, 2013 01:36
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Chronojam posted:He's the underdog of the supporting cast, but was honestly my favorite Mario 2 (US) character since he could dig things up super fast and ran really fast. Doki Mario 2 was an amazing game. I mean sure, the game was certainly easiest as Luigi or Peach with their floating/Luiggly Legs but once you wanted a challenged, you played as Mario or Toad. I can beat Mario 2 in a single sitting, rarely dying with Luiggly. That's why I prefer the challenge and play as Mario or Toad with limited jumping.
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Feb 15, 2013 02:20
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Hearing that NSMBU will get a whole new 80 level expansion was a pretty great out-of-nowhere announcement. I wonder if they'll continue putting out more of these as big DLCs over the next few years. We all remarked how launching with NSMBU was a smart move because NSMBWii sold millions over its lifetime and now that NSMBU is out there also selling millions, they can continue moving units and providing DLC content as they develop new Mario titles since they only have to create new levels, not the whole game engine.
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Feb 15, 2013 03:24
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FPzero posted:Hearing that NSMBU will get a whole new 80 level expansion was a pretty great out-of-nowhere announcement. I wonder if they'll continue putting out more of these as big DLCs over the next few years. We all remarked how launching with NSMBU was a smart move because NSMBWii sold millions over its lifetime and now that NSMBU is out there also selling millions, they can continue moving units and providing DLC content as they develop new Mario titles since they only have to create new levels, not the whole game engine. To bad its single player, they just had to gently caress something up just so we'd know its from Nintendo.
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Feb 15, 2013 03:29
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Wii U sold about 55K in the month of January in the US. By comparison, in the January following the Gamecube's release, the GameCube sold 62K. Edit: Also, the Vita versions of FIFA and Madden outsold their respective Wii U counterparts. The Operative fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Feb 15, 2013 |
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Feb 15, 2013 03:30
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If you guys were still wondering why Ubisoft and EA are showing... a lack of faith in the Wii U, the NPD numbers for January just came out and the Wii U actually had An Historically Bad Month. At somewhere in the range of 55k units sold in a rare 5 week month, that makes it the worst month ever for an HD console (the PS3 bottomed out around 80k-ish and the 360 never dropped to 5 digits). Also, this might be the worst first January for a console since the NPD started tracking the numbers (former lowest was the Gamecube at 59k). Here's the rest of the consoles that launched holiday season for comparison: Gamecube: 59k Xbox: 127k DS: 152k PS3: 244k PS2: 248k 360: 249k (this one was a 4 week January, unlike the Wii and PS3) Wii: 435k tl;dr: If you give a console a confusing name, don't market it, and most importantly don't release any games, no one will buy it. Considering there's nothing going on this month to turn this around, I don't see the numbers bumping up 'til March, which means that Nintendo could very well miss their revised 4 million sales target. e: Beaten goddamnit. e2: Is it cynical of me to think Nintendo had the Direct today specifically to deflect attention from this stuff? Crowbear fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Feb 15, 2013 |
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