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December Octopodes
Dec 25, 2008

Christmas is coming
the squid is getting fat!

Reveilled posted:

Personally, I find the American interest in the pop/soda/coke discussion rather bemusing because I can't think of a circumstance in which you'd mention carbonated sugary drinks outside the context of asking for a specific variety.


Anyway,


Where are you that our soda isn't creeping its way into the population, fattening them up?

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Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

ekuNNN posted:

Possibly "I don't let my kids drink soda"?


This animation shows all land in the American southwest as Indian-owned land up till the 1860's. And you posted it below a map of New Spain! I think it's pretty disingenuous for a map to claim all land in the Southwest outside of eastern Texas as one undifferentiated mass of "Native American Lands" from 1784 to the 1860's. Not to mention hideously USA-centric. Also poo poo like the Mormon colonists and the Oregon settlers and all these other subtleties.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004





I like how Germany takes over Newfoundland and Labrador and pretty much decides that's good enough.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect

Reveilled posted:

Personally, I find the American interest in the pop/soda/coke discussion rather bemusing because I can't think of a circumstance in which you'd mention carbonated sugary drinks outside the context of asking for a specific variety.


There are a hell of a lot of different varieties here, so at someone's house its always pop/soda/whatever because you can't tell what they have. Here is a map of the different varieties (although non carbonated drinks are also included)



https://www.msu.edu/~howardp/softdrinkszoomit.html

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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univbee posted:

I like how Germany takes over Newfoundland and Labrador and pretty much decides that's good enough.

I'm not sure whether to feel relieved or insulted as a Canadian that the big bads always seem to ignore us even to such a degree that they'd be strategically compromised. I like how the Japanese Empire leaves a US friendly state on its border for no apparent reason.

Dr. Tough
Oct 22, 2007

Fojar38 posted:

I'm not sure whether to feel relieved or insulted as a Canadian that the big bads always seem to ignore us even to such a degree that they'd be strategically compromised. I like how the Japanese Empire leaves a US friendly state on its border for no apparent reason.

Well in the book Germany has atomic weapons and isn't afraid to use them, so I doubt that Canada would try anything.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Uncle Jam posted:

There are a hell of a lot of different varieties here, so at someone's house its always pop/soda/whatever because you can't tell what they have. Here is a map of the different varieties (although non carbonated drinks are also included)



https://www.msu.edu/~howardp/softdrinkszoomit.html

Eh, there's a load of varieties here too, not the same ones, but every supermarket has an aisle for fizzy drinks (which is the term I'd use if I was saying "I don't let my kids drink soda/pop/coke") an aisle for non-carbonated non-caffeinated soft drinks and an aisle for tea and coffee, but here if you were asking for something at someone else's house you'd ask for "something to drink", and offer exactly the same if you're hosting (or offer "a cup of tea" first, then "something to drink"). As a guest, if my host doesn't have a fizzy drink I like I'd likely prefer tea or water over a fizzy drink I don't like, and as a host I wouldn't offer only fizzy drinks to my guests, in case they want a non-fizzy drink, like water, tea, orange juice or alcohol.




The scale's a little small here but the map shows how isolated some areas of the planet still are and how closely connected the rest of it is.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect

Reveilled posted:





The scale's a little small here but the map shows how isolated some areas of the planet still are and how closely connected the rest of it is.

They picked a really unsettling color bar.
Its interesting the bright spot along the southern Himalayas, I wonder if that is due to the influx of climbing tourists.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

univbee posted:

I like how Germany takes over Newfoundland and Labrador and pretty much decides that's good enough.
Since the place only joined Canada in '49, it's not really that strange - the Germans obviously just grabbed the British colonies in the North Atlantic.

Uncle Jam posted:

They picked a really unsettling color bar.
Its interesting the bright spot along the southern Himalayas, I wonder if that is due to the influx of climbing tourists.
Or maybe it's because the Indo-Gangetic Plain is inhabited by about 1 billion people.

the night dad
Oct 23, 2006

by XyloJW


That's alotta mongols.

PBJ
Oct 10, 2012

Grimey Drawer

univbee posted:

I like how Germany takes over Newfoundland and Labrador and pretty much decides that's good enough.

Technically, all of the Eastern US is under German control, being a fascist puppet and all.



Map of world religions.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

PBJ posted:

Technically, all of the Eastern US is under German control, being a fascist puppet and all.



Map of world religions.

Are the white spots what I think they're supposed to represent? They look at first to represent major urban areas, but they're not everywhere. My guess is Jewish communities outside of Israel.

Red_Mage
Jul 23, 2007
I SHOULD BE FUCKING PERMABANNED BUT IN THE MEANTIME ASK ME ABOUT MY FAILED KICKSTARTER AND RUNNING OFF WITH THE MONEY

Young Freud posted:

Are the white spots what I think they're supposed to represent? They look at first to represent major urban areas, but they're not everywhere. My guess is Jewish communities outside of Israel.

I am disappointed Mormonism is lumped in with Protestant religion on this map.

yoctoontologist
Sep 11, 2011



Racial categories used in the US Census as of 2000. (Based on ancestral origin, not personal origin, obviously.)

Ogantai
Apr 21, 2003

Full of bologna

PBJ posted:

Technically, all of the Eastern US is under German control, being a fascist puppet and all.



Map of world religions.
This map is widely inaccurate. Off the top of my head:
1. Sri Lanka is mostly Buddhist, not Hindu.
2. Bahrain is mostly Shia, not Sunni.
3. Bali should be majority Hindu, there should be a majority Christian area in Sulawesi.
4. PNG is not majority Muslim.

Edit: On further reflection, the most baffling part is the top two thirds of Viet Nam being labelled "Chinese religions" and the bottom third being Buddhist. WTF.

Ogantai fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Feb 18, 2013

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


South Korea's wrong too. It's approximately 25/25/50 Christian/Buddhist/Other or none.

Crameltonian
Mar 27, 2010

yoctoontologist posted:



Racial categories used in the US Census as of 2000. (Based on ancestral origin, not personal origin, obviously.)

The Middle East and North Africa count as White? I want to see European countries introduce this classification, our racists would have the most amazing fits. :allears: (Also Hokkaido's apparently closer racially to Iceland than to the rest of Japan but I'm going to assume that's a map error)

Nyarlothotep
Apr 14, 2007
Don't fail to see Nyarlathotep if he comes to Providence. He is horrible — horrible beyond anything you can imagine — but wonderful. He haunts one for hours afterward. I am still shuddering at what he showed.

Crameltonian posted:

The Middle East and North Africa count as White? I want to see European countries introduce this classification, our racists would have the most amazing fits. :allears: (Also Hokkaido's apparently closer racially to Iceland than to the rest of Japan but I'm going to assume that's a map error)

I've heard plenty of anti-Islamists here in the Netherlands pull out the "Turks and Maroccans aren't a different race, so we're not being racist" card. Because discriminating against fellow white people because of their religion is ofcourse perfectly acceptable.

Ogantai
Apr 21, 2003

Full of bologna

Grand Fromage posted:

South Korea's wrong too. It's approximately 25/25/50 Christian/Buddhist/Other or none.
I was going to mention that too, but I suppose it hinges on whether Confucianism is considered a Chinese 'religion'.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Ogantai posted:

I was going to mention that too, but I suppose it hinges on whether Confucianism is considered a Chinese 'religion'.

I guess. The culture is very Confucian here but it's not followed as a religion. Christianity is by far the dominant religion in everyday life, I've never been chased around by evangelicals like I have here. And I'm from the loving Midwest.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Crameltonian posted:

The Middle East and North Africa count as White? I want to see European countries introduce this classification, our racists would have the most amazing fits.

Civilized countries don't use racial classifications at all :smug:

Related (map showing countries where the ethnicity or race of people was enumerated at least in one census since 1991.):



Obviously "not enumerating ethnicity or race in a census" is not the same thing as "not using racial classifications".

3D Megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Feb 18, 2013

Hip Flask
Dec 14, 2010

Zip Mask

PBJ posted:

Technically, all of the Eastern US is under German control, being a fascist puppet and all.



Map of world religions.

Ethiopia and Eritrea are both majority christian orthodox, as far as I know.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Hip Flask posted:

Ethiopia and Eritrea are both majority christian orthodox, as far as I know.

Ethiopia has been christian for longer than most of Europe. So despite what Bob Geldof might think they're perfectly aware of whether it's christmas or not.

Crameltonian
Mar 27, 2010

PBJ posted:

Technically, all of the Eastern US is under German control, being a fascist puppet and all.



Map of world religions.

Adding to the various other problems Bangladesh is definitely not majority Hindu (that being the main reason it's separate from India) and the idea that Iraq is predominantly Sunni is hilarious to anyone who's looked at a news report at any point in the last decade.

The Monkey Man
Jun 10, 2012

HERD U WERE TALKIN SHIT

PBJ posted:

Technically, all of the Eastern US is under German control, being a fascist puppet and all.



Map of world religions.

Why isn't there a Star of David in Florida?

EDIT: Also, what are those swaths of Catholicism in the western US? I thought that was Mormon country.

The Monkey Man fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Feb 18, 2013

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country

yoctoontologist posted:



Racial categories used in the US Census as of 2000. (Based on ancestral origin, not personal origin, obviously.)

Afghanistan is essentially where all of Eurasia's racial phenotypes meet to kill each other, it should probably have its own colour.

TheIllestVillain fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Feb 18, 2013

GreenCard78
Apr 25, 2005

It's all in the game, yo.

Crameltonian posted:

The Middle East and North Africa count as White? I want to see European countries introduce this classification, our racists would have the most amazing fits. :allears: (Also Hokkaido's apparently closer racially to Iceland than to the rest of Japan but I'm going to assume that's a map error)

Not sure how it works abroad but yes, North Africans, Arabs, people from the Middle East are all white according to the US Census.

http://www.ohr.gatech.edu/race%20definitions

That's from Georgia Tech but if you apply to jobs in the US, they'll have an optional demographic section at the end and they come with these same federal definitions for people to use.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

The Monkey Man posted:

Why isn't there a Star of David in Florida?

EDIT: Also, what are those swaths of Catholicism in the western US? I thought that was Mormon country.

The Spanish converted a lot of people in the West; not everyone came in with Manifest Destiny from the US. One of those blue splotches looks like Boise which I know for a fact is full of Catholics and/or Hispanics.

e: well probably more German Catholic but that's fairly common as well

computer parts fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Feb 18, 2013

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect

yoctoontologist posted:



Racial categories used in the US Census as of 2000. (Based on ancestral origin, not personal origin, obviously.)

Is Japan in two different racial categories? You'd think with like 6 categories they could have avoided that.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

PBJ posted:



Map of world religions.

It needs a "None" category :colbert:


"The percentage of atheist, agnostic, nonreligious, irreligious population around the world. The data is based on 2006 total population."

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Uncle Jam posted:

Is Japan in two different racial categories? You'd think with like 6 categories they could have avoided that.
I was gonna be all Lookit that scrub dat don't know 'bout the Kuril Islands but on looking closer that looks like Hokkaido as green? What? :psyduck:

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

PBJ posted:

Technically, all of the Eastern US is under German control, being a fascist puppet and all.



Map of world religions.

That map has a really weird policy on labeling a region as having a tribal minority; the Philippines according to Wikipedia, 90% of the population is Christian, the vast majority of which are Catholic, with a southern region that is majority Sunni, and yet on that map it has Tribal and Christian for all of the Philippines. Same thing in Africa where you have nations like the Democratic Republic of Congo which reports a 95% Christian population, a <1% Animist population, a Muslim population of about 1.5% and yet on that map it says it's a mix of all three.

GreenCard78
Apr 25, 2005

It's all in the game, yo.
I think the argument is "it's not really Catholic because they adopted their previous religion into Catholicism and do it a little differently." :downs:

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

ekuNNN posted:

It needs a "None" category :colbert:


"The percentage of atheist, agnostic, nonreligious, irreligious population around the world. The data is based on 2006 total population."

Stops at 93%? :confused:

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

prefect posted:

Stops at 93%? :confused:

I'm guessing China can't deny the Uyghur are religious, although I found a chart that seems to disagree with that (the first map) :

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

It also depends on whether you consider the Falun Gong and other groups like them as a religion as well. Are they covered on the Taoist and Folk Religion banner?

Plutonis fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Feb 18, 2013

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Might be taking into account that China is officially Aethiest.

Smirr
Jun 28, 2012

That really is a terrible map. Just to add a little more to the list of mistakes, Lesotho is 90% Christian and has 300 to 2000 Muslims. 2000 people would be 0.05% of the population. And yet it's labeled as "Tribal, Christian and Muslim" (loving the ordering of these, by the way). I have no doubt this is the case for most of the purple areas in Africa.

Meanwhile, Egypt and Syria both have Christian minorities of about 10%, both of which have been there forever, and both of which aren't on the map at all. Heck, Lebanon is about 40% Christian and still a solid green.

As has been pointed out, if you take one look at Bangladesh, you know all there is to know about this map (it's poo poo).

edit: come to think of it, I think the reason Lesotho jumped out at me is that, with it being surrounded by a uniform sea of Protestantism, it sort of seems like it's saying "here be Africans (and you know what that means)".

Smirr fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Feb 18, 2013

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Let's try that again with a different map:



e: At least concerning Africa, that map is still nonsensical, though. For example: The Central African Republic is 90% Christian and still labelled mainly as "Tribal" (whatever that means) for some reason. I think it's like GreenCard78 said: they incorporate indigenous rituals and ideas in their Christianity/Islam there, they must be secretly pagan! :downs:

Totally not Catholic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSwzTaizDWc

e2: Possibly the only state that could rightfully be labelled "majority animist" is the South Sudan. The last comprehensive census there was in 1956, though.

System Metternich fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Feb 18, 2013

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burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

System Metternich posted:

Let's try that again with a different map:



Now the Philippines are Jewish! This is not what I wanted at all :saddowns:.

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