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Cunning Plan
Apr 15, 2003

Clement posted:

Well, Charlie Brooker's mind is broken.

Yes, yes it is.... I thought that it was a good episode! Although the ad breaks would've been very tedious if I'd not started watching a bit late and been able to fast forward through.

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lets go swimming
Sep 6, 2012

EAT THE CHEESE, NICHOLSON!
The minute the crowd shot appeared, it had to be a mob justice thing. Crichlow was great, Smiley was too.


Oh it's the BT advert guy next week.

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

Fat Guy Sexting posted:

I think the response to this Black Mirror is going to be worse than it actually made me feel.

Chrichlow was amazing in it, as was that Irish guy.

She clearly learnt the art of screaming from her co-star in Being Human, Russell Tovey.

I feel exhausted after watching that.

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

:stare: Well that was horrifying.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
So a Groundhog Day-TrumanShow-Runningman hybrid. Struck me as the least successful Blackmirror, but I can see Hollywood picking up the concept.

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;
I can't see many Hollywood studios picking up a story where a Maxine Carr stand in is treated sympathetically.

And I think it stood on its own merits.

Goldskull
Feb 20, 2011

Tonight's Black Mirror's also the plot to an old Future Shock in 2000AD, and I'm pretty sure it's been done elsewhere in comics too.

wutheringbites
Nov 3, 2008
Yeah that was something. Christ.

I might rewatch it sometime to see if there were any hints that it was a set up before the big reveal. The only one I can think of is that the woman accompanying Victoria seemed to have perfect make-up and hair for someone who'd been running for her life for however long. I thought that was an oversight at the start of the episode, but I suppose they may have put it in on purpose.

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

McDragon posted:

Well, that was massively hosed up. :stare:

But gently caress, I bet there's people who would think that's a good idea.

Yeah I wouldn't bother looking at #blackmirror, as there are a fair few saying that this is how justice should be done.

edit:

wutheringbites posted:

Yeah that was something. Christ.

I might rewatch it sometime to see if there were any hints in the run up to the reveal about it being a set up. The only one I can think of is that the woman accompanying Victoria seemed to have perfect make-up and hair for someone who'd been running for her life for however long. I thought that was an oversight at the start of the episode, but I suppose they may have put it in on purpose.

Also her taser that she almost uses.

Some Strange Flea
Apr 9, 2010

AAA
Pillbug
They had mentioned in the credits during the "Orientation" that they had tazers in case poo poo got real, just wondering if anyone remembers offhand what it was she'd done that got her threatened with it first go round.

Irisi
Feb 18, 2009

I feel like I've been put through a wringer, plus, I just got sent a marvellous example of how some people cannot see the loving point even when it's aimed at their own goddam head:

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

Some Strange Flea posted:

They had mentioned in the credits during the "Orientation" that they had tazers in case poo poo got real, just wondering if anyone remembers offhand what it was she'd done that got her threatened with it first go round.

She was going to look at a phone.

Some Strange Flea
Apr 9, 2010

AAA
Pillbug

Rondette posted:

She was going to look at a phone.
Oh yeah, because it would give the game away if she saw that there wasn't anything on it. Thanks!

Barry Shitpeas
Dec 17, 2003

there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013

Rondette posted:

She was going to look at a phone.

Also she threw a brick at some of the spectators

Metrication
Dec 12, 2010

Raskin had one problem: Jobs regarded him as an insufferable theorist or, to use Jobs's own more precise terminology, "a shithead who sucks".
Nice twist.

Plucky Brit
Nov 7, 2009

Swing low, sweet chariot
I've just realised, the whole point is to show justice being diluted for the masses.

Considering she keeps on getting her memory wiped, each day is the same. So really, what's the point of repeating it so many times? Surely it's just to create an amusement park out of it, and commercialise the justice system.

McDragon
Sep 11, 2007

It'd be pretty great if in that section of Weekly Wipe where he looks at Internet comments, he had a look at the Black Mirror hashtag.

lets go swimming
Sep 6, 2012

EAT THE CHEESE, NICHOLSON!

wutheringbites posted:

Yeah that was something. Christ.

I might rewatch it sometime to see if there were any hints that it was a set up before the big reveal. The only one I can think of is that the woman accompanying Victoria seemed to have perfect make-up and hair for someone who'd been running for her life for however long. I thought that was an oversight at the start of the episode, but I suppose they may have put it in on purpose.

The bit where Jen's companion gets shot and flops down at the back of the petrol station, and her reaction to it is on par with dropping a small bowl or getting caught watching things on YouTube when you're meant to be working.

Plucky Brit
Nov 7, 2009

Swing low, sweet chariot

wutheringbites posted:

Yeah that was something. Christ.

I might rewatch it sometime to see if there were any hints that it was a set up before the big reveal. The only one I can think of is that the woman accompanying Victoria seemed to have perfect make-up and hair for someone who'd been running for her life for however long. I thought that was an oversight at the start of the episode, but I suppose they may have put it in on purpose.

The bit at the start where there's a child looking out of a window and talking, but not holding a phone.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



onoflalks posted:

The bit where Jen's companion gets shot and flops down at the back of the petrol station, and her reaction to it is on par with dropping a small bowl or getting caught watching things on YouTube when you're meant to be working.

Not for me - I'm watching Utopia and Jen felt just like the Jessica character, so that didn't tip me off at all.

The only feeling I got that this might be a reality show was that it pretty quickly reminded me of 15 Million Merits from last series, with the uncaring observers like the audience for Hot Shots.

Red Oktober fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Feb 19, 2013

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

Well that was seriously hosed, but bloody good. I bet it had Daily Mail readers jizzing in their pants.

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum
Yeah Jesus Christ that was some dark poo poo right there.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

I'm physically exhausted after that. I just want to watch some David Attenborough or something now.

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

VogeGandire posted:

I'm physically exhausted after that. I just want to watch some David Attenborough or something now.

Black Mirror should be on at 9pm and Penguins should be on at 10pm, allowing for a nice soothing show after.

Captain Mediocre
Oct 14, 2005

Saving lives and money!

Christ that really got under my skin. Genuinely freaked out the whole time it was on.

lets go swimming
Sep 6, 2012

EAT THE CHEESE, NICHOLSON!

McDragon posted:

It'd be pretty great if in that section of Weekly Wipe where he looks at Internet comments, he had a look at the Black Mirror hashtag.

I was gonna say "don't think it should be in the Weekly Wipe because it'd need some explaining because not everybody's watched it", but then Charlie tweeted this and I hope Mr Shitpeas and Ms Cunk do it now.

qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.
It's odd. I pretty much hated that episode of Black Mirror up until the footage they showed during the end credits, at which point the episode strangely redeemed itself. I was ready to declare this a straight-up bad episode of television, but somehow the last 45 seconds or so made it click for me.

Still, it's probably not a good idea to have a protagonist that literally screams and cries the entire episode. I was rooting for her to die before the twist was even revealed (this is my way of saying the character was incredibly annoying, not that I agree the justice system should work like that).

Noreaus
May 22, 2008

HEY, WHAT'S HAPPENING? :)
Yeah, unlike the coda for The National Anthem, this one was actually essential for a full enjoyment of the episode. The full horror of it only clicked when I saw "justice park".

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo
So basically what you're saying is that to enjoy something in full context you should watch the whole thing?

Isn't that the point?

That was a great episode, I was all "WTF" when the crowd shot was revealed, and then it started to click when the news report was played, but it wasn't until the credits that I really understood what the point was, and it was glorious.

gently caress anyone who thinks that's how we should do things, though.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo

onoflalks posted:


Oh it's the BT advert guy next week.

Wait, what? Which one? Creepy guy or supposed-to-be-cool guy?

Edit: Creepy guy. Hah.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

thehustler posted:

Wait, what? Which one? Creepy guy or supposed-to-be-cool guy?

Edit: Creepy guy. Hah.

The BAFTA-winning creepy guy.

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer
With Black Mirror - I have to admit I was wondering in my head if she was a bit of a wrong un because her boyfriend looked pretty chavvy. Then I chastised myself inwardly for being so judgemental about a person's appearance. Then I was a bit smug because hey I was right, he was a wrong un. I thought there was quite an interesting subtext there.

I'm off to watch the last episode of My Mad Fat Diary now :cry: I don't want it to end!

My friend just bought me the book so at least I have that to comfort me.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

I felt that episode of Black Mirror was somewhat of a letdown. The "twist" was good and pretty terrifying but I can't say the same about the buildup. About halfway through the episode I pretty much figured out the whole thing which didn't help but I can't really add that as a criticism.

Every other episode has been very good though and I'm quite impressed with the overall production value. The whole thing reminds me of a less goofy and more cynical version of The Outer Limits. The second third episode of the first series has been my favorite so far, not sure if I'm too keen on it being made into a movie but we'll see how that turns out.

E: VVV That's the one. :doh:

Stare-Out fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Feb 19, 2013

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo
I think you mean the third episode.

Also, BBC Two HD will replace BBC HD on March 26th.

No idea where HD BBC3 and 4 content will go after that though...

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

I thought it was really good and I had been spoilered. I knew it was a gameshow and the women was a murderer but even though I saw the repeat every day thing coming a mile off it was done so well it gave me the heeby jeebys.

What do we want here guys another series of deal or no deal or some more stuff like this?

C4 is actually making the best telly right now is it not?

Captain Mediocre
Oct 14, 2005

Saving lives and money!

Seaside Loafer posted:

I thought it was really good and I had been spoilered. I knew it was a gameshow and the women was a murderer but even though I saw the repeat every day thing coming a mile off it was done so well it gave me the heeby jeebys.

What do we want here guys another series of deal or no deal or some more stuff like this?

I'll go for whatever's in box number 12.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo

Seaside Loafer posted:

C4 is actually making the best telly right now is it not?

It depends. Stuff like Utopia and Black Mirror is obviously wonderful, and Mad Fat Diary is as well (even though it's on E4).

But then you see the kind of daytime fare they're putting out (which I guess we can ignore because what else can they do?) and also their watered-down documentaries and it seems a little poo poo. They used to be really good at that kind of thing and now I find them unwatchable compared to similar things on BBC2/4.

They have definitely seen a decline over the years.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

The one thing I liked about Black Mirror is how they designed her punishment to reflect her own crime, so she's taken into the woods by a man and woman, threatened with torture, then the plan is to burn the White Bear transmitter. She's also told all the people filming her are under the same sort of "spell" she claimed she was under when she was filming the crime.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Just caught up with Black Mirror. Absolutely incredible. Up until the Twist I thought it was a good example of a zombie thriller but not up Black Mirror's high standards, but then The Twist came and that was amazing. Personally for me it all really clicked when Baxter was hyping up the outside crowd like a Big Brother eviction night. This is right up there with 15 Million Merits for me.

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Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum

Rarity posted:

hyping up the outside crowd like a Big Brother eviction night.

That's exactly what I thought about that bit too. That twist just came out of nowhere, it was amazing.

Similar to what Brown Moses said, when it was revealed that she filmed the murder of the girl, I thought back to when she was screaming at all the people filming her asking why wouldn't they help. It was just all really well put together.

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