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Didn't National Review post that "Women should like Romney, because his virile seed has fathered strong sons, while Obama's has only created useless girl-children" thing?
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Feb 18, 2013 10:55
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Dr Christmas posted:Didn't National Review post that "Women should like Romney, because his virile seed has fathered strong sons, while Obama's has only created useless girl-children" thing? Yes Obama is not fit to rule because he has failed to sire a male heir. American conservatism in 2012. 
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Feb 18, 2013 11:04
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Alpha 1 posted:Here's a quck description I made for it: Replace "bunch of conservative hacks" with John Yoo and Ralph Reed (the existential horror of being stuck on a boat with them being self-explanatory) and you got a winner.
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Feb 18, 2013 11:28
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Don't slap a "friend of the family baby". http://wonkette.com/501693/idaho-man-slaps-black-baby-on-plane-is-not-a-racist
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Feb 18, 2013 12:23
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Alpha 1 posted:Oh god, National Review. My dad reads it daily, and treats any hack who writes an article there as if they're a sophisticated intellectual. Now he seems to truly believe that western civilization is doomed because the Saracens will outbreed us, and that liberals are the REAL fascists. Added. Thanks for writing that up. I think the National Review and books from people like Beck and O'Reilly add an air of sophistication and credibility to conservative arguments, at least in the minds of conservatives. I'm not quite sure how to word it, but the fact that "I read a book" or being able to say "if you've read Beck's book..." gives a whiff of intellectualism to their arguments. I doubt conservatives read as many books as liberals but I don't have anything to back that up. I hope that made sense. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Feb 18, 2013 |
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Feb 18, 2013 13:40
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Alpha 1 posted:Yes Ah yes, daughters. The true sign of any weak president or man. At least since 2008. I'm sure the National Review was just as mad with this president as well.  Yet they probably called this guy the 'manliest man to ever walk among men'.
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Feb 18, 2013 14:08
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The Angry Bum posted:Ah yes, daughters. The true sign of any weak president or man. At least since 2008. I'm sure the National Review was just as mad with this president as well. Of course Bush was manly, you saw how much binge drinking and craziness his daughters were up to right? Obama's daughters are probably straight-edge.
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Feb 18, 2013 14:45
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Dang, if out of control children is a sign of manliness then Sarah Palin must be lumberjack levels of manly.
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Feb 18, 2013 15:31
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Cheapsteaks posted:Dang, if out of control children is a sign of manliness then Sarah Palin must be lumberjack levels of manly. quote:I’m sure I’m not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, “Hey, I think she just winked at me.” And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America.
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Feb 18, 2013 15:43
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Oh God. I think that means they find her moe.
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Feb 18, 2013 15:45
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The last time we had a President with male offspring the resulting brood totally hosed up everything. 
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Feb 18, 2013 15:54
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Cheapsteaks posted:Dang, if out of control children is a sign of manliness then Sarah Palin must be lumberjack levels of manly. Got some nether regions like Chyna
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Feb 18, 2013 16:14
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You can't go an a page-long NRO bash without turning over the Debryshire rock. That guy was awesome. EDIT: For future googlers, the column that got him fired wasn't actually on NRO, but it easily could've been.
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Alpha 1 posted:Oh god, National Review. My dad reads it daily, and treats any hack who writes an article there as if they're a sophisticated intellectual. Now he seems to truly believe that western civilization is doomed because the Saracens will outbreed us, and that liberals are the REAL fascists. I need a combination of  and  Alpha 1 posted:Here's a quck description I made for it: This is great. It really can't be asked enough but how is WFB, a man who proudly defended segregation, unironically revered as an "intellectual?"  Also, watt parr, does RAND really have an explicit ideological tilt? I know it's a govt spin-off, and the few studies I've come across didn't seem to be pushing an agenda. 
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Feb 18, 2013 16:49
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http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/340896/no-flat-tax-and-other-stale-ideas-james-pethokoukis Really, they should know better than to talk poo poo about the gold standard. I mean, just because some of their writers hold the basic intellect to see how bad an idea it is doesn't mean that the subscribers who pay their bills and buy staterooms on their lovely river "cruises" do. The magazine has full-page goldbug ads, sometimes two or three, in every issue. article posted:But why do we need to actually balance the budget?  
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Dudes! posted:Don't slap a "friend of the family baby". quote:In an interview, Hundley denied striking the toddler or using a racial slur, though he did acknowledge that he “asked the mother to quiet the child.” Hundley, who said he was traveling to Atlanta to visit a hospitalized relative, described himself as “distraught” on the flight, during which he said he consumed a single alcoholic drink. To paraphrase Chris Rock, if he's admitting to "one drink," it's probably closer to eight. There's a curve for these things. Also seconding a mention of the Derbyshire debacle. Have a money quote: quote:(10) Thus, while always attentive to the particular qualities of individuals, on the many occasions where you have nothing to guide you but knowledge of those mean differences, use statistical common sense: [Ed. note: Yeah, what with all those pistol-packing Blacks standing in line for Superman: Ride of Steel.  quote:(10f) Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians. Isn't the NR based in DC? Go read the rest. Or don't, it's pretty awful.
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Some stuff on Roger Ailes's sudden magical (rhetorical and only-on-the-surface) turnaround on Latinos that is in no way coincidental to the fact that 70% of Latinos voted for Obama.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE8Zpq04ZK0 "Republicans have a lot more opportunity for Latinos." This after Roger has repeatedly claimed that Fox is a 'news' organization without bias. He's not even pretending to hide the fact that Fox is a propaganda arm of the GOP, heh. Also: A pig with massive pig jowels posted:Ailes: “If I’m going to risk my life to run over the fence to get into America, I want to win. I think Fox News will articulate that.” Yes, because nothing speaks more to an immigrant minority group than pandering to them with your ignorant racism in a 'positive' way.
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Feb 18, 2013 19:49
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Dr Christmas posted:Didn't National Review post that "Women should like Romney, because his virile seed has fathered strong sons, while Obama's has only created useless girl-children" thing? Alpha 1 posted:Yes Wow. I wasn't privy to this during the campaign. This is pretty vile: quote:You want off-the-charts status? Check out the curriculum vitae of one Willard M. Romney: $200 million in the bank (and a hell of a lot more if he didn’t give so much away), apex alpha executive, CEO, chairman of the board, governor, bishop, boss of everything he’s ever touched. Son of the same, father of more. It is a curious scientific fact (explained in evolutionary biology by the Trivers-Willard hypothesis — Willard, notice) that high-status animals tend to have more male offspring than female offspring, which holds true across many species, from red deer to mink to Homo sap. The offspring of rich families are statistically biased in favor of sons — the children of the general population are 51 percent male and 49 percent female, but the children of the Forbes billionaire list are 60 percent male. Have a gander at that Romney family picture: five sons, zero daughters. Romney has 18 grandchildren, and they exceed a 2:1 ratio of grandsons to granddaughters (13:5). When they go to church at their summer-vacation home, the Romney clan makes up a third of the congregation. He is basically a tribal chieftain. Yes, having a daughter is undesirable because they are an inferior sex. What is this, Saudi Arabia? gently caress you, national review. gently caress you and your overgrown trust fund frat boy writers.
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When I hear that Republicans want to take everyone back to "the fifties" I always assumed it was the 1950's, not the literal 50's. Tribal chieftain. 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Carson So, this guy keeps coming up more and more. I'm guessing he's going to be the next Steve Forbes/Ron Paul. Or even, dare I dream, the next Herman Cain. I don't think we're going to be _that_ lucky, but apparently the religious ones seem to really like him.
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Spacedad posted:Check out the curriculum vitae of one Willard M. Romney: $200 million in the bank (and a hell of a lot more if I can only imagine the homoerotic hazing rituals that go on in the NR office after hours.
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Feb 18, 2013 21:49
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Speaking of National Review and women...Michael Walsh posted:Mario, while the repeal of the 19th Amendment might be something devoutly to be wished — For all their effort to disguise their racism, conservatives are fascinatingly open about their disdain for women (and democracy). Even "sophisticated" National Review becomes a firestorm of misogynistic hate whenever women's issues come up.
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I do love how they always call him John F. Kerry. To make him sound like JFK. As a negative. (Yes, I'm aware of Kennedy's flaws - it's not those flaws they're talking about.)
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I tried to watch O'reily tonight but the amount of stupidity was magnified by Adam Carolla ranting about how people who make minimum wage don't pay their "fair share" and shouldn't have kids. It was so infuriating I shut the TV off, his bullshit is against the regular  demographic so why do they have him on there? I have a hard time fathoming that anyone would willingly listen to that guy, it can't be good for ratings.
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DaveWoo posted:Nah, this is what National Review had to say about Palin: quote:I’m sure I’m not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, “Hey, I think she just winked at me.” And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America. Cheapsteaks posted:Oh God. I think that means they find her moe. 
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Azuth0667 posted:I tried to watch O'reily tonight but the amount of stupidity was magnified by Adam Carolla ranting about how people who make minimum wage don't pay their "fair share" and shouldn't have kids. It was so infuriating I shut the TV off, his bullshit is against the regular I used to listen to Loveline when I was in middle/high school, and Adam Carolla didn't used to be like this. His podcast is just him using 4 or 5 canned rants about the most inane bullshit ever. It's also pretty telling seeing how his entire career was based on a luck/chance meeting with Jimmy Kimmel back in the 90s. If it wasn't for all of the stars aligning, he'd still be a contractor. The lack of perspective is mind boggling.
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Phone posted:I used to listen to Loveline when I was in middle/high school, and Adam Carolla didn't used to be like this. His podcast is just him using 4 or 5 canned rants about the most inane bullshit ever. Adam Carolla has always been an annoying, self-involved schmuck. Just because he was getting paid pretending to know things about teenagers' love lives and not talking about how poor people are lazy doesn't mean he hasn't always been a fuckhead. Kimmel is terrible too and I don't get how he's gotten as far as he has in the business.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Adam Carolla has always been an annoying, self-involved schmuck. Just because he was getting paid pretending to know things about teenagers' love lives and not talking about how poor people are lazy doesn't mean he hasn't always been a fuckhead. Kimmel is terrible too and I don't get how he's gotten as far as he has in the business.
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Phone posted:I used to listen to Loveline when I was in middle/high school, and Adam Carolla didn't used to be like this. His podcast is just him using 4 or 5 canned rants about the most inane bullshit ever. I still remember hearing him for the first time in ten years or so in the office back when I was living in rural Washington. All my right-wing workmates were nodding and muttering "drat straight" as he talked about how it's disgraceful that we don't worship the rich like back in his day and that the Occupy movement was filled with spoiled pussy workshy manchildren. He might as well have been yelling "BOOTSTRAPS" over and over again. How he went from an irreverent co-host on one of the better shows on Comedy Central (at least to me when I was in middle school; I would probably hate it now) to a right wing pundit is baffling to me.
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Cardboard Box A posted:So basically Palin's appeal was that of a real life anime character? Namco releases iDOLM@STER DLC for their Democratic Election Simulator, co-developed by Paradox. I can't wait to see kawaii Biden-sama! 
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Wales Grey posted:Namco releases iDOLM@STER DLC for their Democratic Election Simulator, co-developed by Paradox. I can't wait to see kawaii Biden-sama! As always, the GOP will be out kawaii-ed by the Democrats. 
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Acrophyte posted:I can only imagine the homoerotic hazing rituals that go on in the NR office after hours. You have come to a world called NOR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45lXXiLbTxM
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I noticed something about Fox News pundit shows - the people they have on from the "democratic" side just act funny to me. Are these real democrats or just Fox News people/actors posing as democrats? Often it seems they are there to make Hannity/O'reilly/whoever's arguments look good and the other side look bad (ala Colmes).
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CowOnCrack posted:I noticed something about Fox News pundit shows - the people they have on from the "democratic" side just act funny to me. Are these real democrats or just Fox News people/actors posing as democrats? Often it seems they are there to make Hannity/O'reilly/whoever's arguments look good and the other side look bad (ala Colmes). Sort of. Fox News democrats are usually odd looking, really extreme, really meek, or someone who was associated with a prominent democrat but is now disgraced and willing to parrot talking points. The end goal is always to make the republican side look good
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Good Citizen posted:The end goal is always to make the republican side look good
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Anyone see Sean Hannity butthurt about how Obama is playing golf instead of helping the fifty million bajillion kazillion unemployed people find jobs?
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towelieban posted:Anyone see Sean Hannity butthurt about how Obama is playing golf instead of helping the fifty million bajillion kazillion unemployed people find jobs? I thought it wasn't the government's job to get involved with things like stimulating employment... You know, Obama should continue his shift to the right. Before you know it, Fox News will practically be calling itself socialist for the sake of being contrarian. And then the Revolution can finally start
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towelieban posted:Anyone see Sean Hannity butthurt about how Obama is playing golf instead of helping the fifty million bajillion kazillion unemployed people find jobs? You mean any of Hannity's shows since Obama was elected in 2008? He's made a point of calling him the "golfer in chief", and spouts off about it pretty regularly.
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