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Yeah the boyfriend sounds like a dumbass. There's a huge difference between "here, have a bit of catnip" "OOOOOOOOOOO" and hotboxing a dog.
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Haha, alright, well I'll just try to avoid giving it to her when he's around. God forbid he saw her on the fresh stuff!
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lidnsya posted:I was at my friend's place the other night and she gave her cat some catnip (shook a toy in a bag of dried stuff then gave her the toy). She started getting excited and silly, batting the toy around. She didn't seem anxious or unhappy at all, but for some reason, my friend's boyfriend flipped right out at us, grabbed the toy away, and told us off, saying it was animal cruelty to "get a cat high".  My cats will maul you if they can tell you're holding 'nip and aren't giving it up; they think it is cruelty to be able to see catnip and not be allowed to roll in it. Heaven help you if you are holding dee eight's catnip and not immediately doling it out. You will be mauled. Also, am I reading this right, that your friend's boyfriend is trying to control how she interacts with her own pet? If so, bonus
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Feb 20, 2013 05:11
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Oh yeah, that aspect of it bothered me too, for sure. They haven't been together very long so I don't know him well yet. Hopefully he isn't controlling in general. The catnip thing is really ridiculous. She very clearly loves it.
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Serella posted:First things first, I'd check the meds to see if there are instructions on the bottle that she may have neglected to spell out. My new vet sends home a whole page of recommendations (some of them are generic copypasta for x condition or y medication while others are specific to the pet), but even if you don't get something like that, the bottle of meds itself may say to give with food. The prednisone I use does. poo poo, really? My package doesn't say anything like that, and the vet didn't specify. Well, I'll do that now.
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Feb 20, 2013 05:38
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Eggplant Wizard posted:Uhhh.... toking up your cat with weed'd be bad cat care in my opinion, but catnip? No. It's just a form of mint that makes them rather silly. What a weird dude. Pollyanna posted:Yeah the boyfriend sounds like a dumbass. There's a huge difference between "here, have a bit of catnip" "OOOOOOOOOOO" and hotboxing a dog. Did this dude say why it was bad to get an animal high?
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lidnsya posted:I was at my friend's place the other night and she gave her cat some catnip (shook a toy in a bag of dried stuff then gave her the toy). She started getting excited and silly, batting the toy around. She didn't seem anxious or unhappy at all, but for some reason, my friend's boyfriend flipped right out at us, grabbed the toy away, and told us off, saying it was animal cruelty to "get a cat high".
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Feb 20, 2013 07:00
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Is this guy straightedge, or is he basing this on his understanding of what consent means? Edit: duckfarts posted:As a professional cat owner, this is loving retarded. I mean, a great deal of cat toys are stuffed with catnip for the sole purpose of animal cruelty? That doesn't even make sense.
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HEGEL SMOKE A J posted:Is this guy straightedge, or is he basing this on his understanding of what consent means? Haha, no. We were all pretty baked at the time. He was actually letting the cat smell his weed (not the smoke), which is what prompted my friend to get the catnip out. He seemed shocked like he hadn't even heard of catnip before. I guess if you've never heard of  it might seem pretty crazy at first.
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lidnsya posted:Haha, no. We were all pretty baked at the time. He was actually letting the cat smell his weed (not the smoke), which is what prompted my friend to get the catnip out. He seemed shocked like he hadn't even heard of catnip before. I guess if you've never heard of of their own is animal abuse? Uh...huh. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Feb 20, 2013 |
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Robo Kitty posted:This is why I kind of wish there were a cat-specific random nonsense thread. The dog people don't get why the cat people are continually obsessing over their cats being cuddly/chasing lasers/staring at birds or the importance of discussing cat rear end status, and the cat people can't understand why 50 pictures of the same dog running through snow or the continuing adventures of the dog who occasionally kills rats are so noteworthy. I would actively support a cat lady invasion of the random nonsense thread. Sometimes I try to get some birdchat in there but it's pretty much boring internet superstar dogs.
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HEGEL SMOKE A J posted:Is this guy straightedge, or is he basing this on his understanding of what consent means?
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I know two cats is always the smarter way to go. But should I wait before getting our still surviving kitty a new playmate? He's been wandering around the house all night now whining and looking for his brother to play with. He doesn't want to play with string or balls or even the catnip toys. He's even giving me a "I'm not looking for attention right now" look when I pet him. Why must I get so attached to cats, this is so painful right now  Also curious if putting a cat down is supposed to be so drat fast. From start to finish it was maybe a minute tops, she just popped the chemicals in one right after another with no wait time in between. He was definitely still conscious when she started the final vial. He let out the most awful sounding yowl before he really looked to be slipping away. Slickdrac fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Feb 20, 2013 |
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Pile of Kittens posted:I would actively support a cat lady invasion of the random nonsense thread. Sometimes I try to get some birdchat in there but it's pretty much boring internet superstar dogs. I am so gonna refurb/dogfacepost over there
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Become the change you wish to see, catladies.
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Slickdrac posted:
Euthanasia can definitely be pretty quick, if there's no trouble finding the vein, the dose of medication is right and the don't need any more, and if there were multiple medications, the first was likely a sedative which makes the final medication work more quickly and smoothly. There shouldn't be any pain involved beyond the needle-stick, and while the do sometimes twitch, jerk, or even vocalize, a lot of that is due to them feeling sort of "out of it" and loopy, then reflex action that can continue even after they've passed. As the person performing the euthanasia, I always prefer they go quickly and smoothly, but I always make sure the owner is ready to proceed and doesn't want a few more minutes with the pet, because I know there won't be a lot of time during, ideally.
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Hi cat thread. I'm sure this comes up all the time, so feel free to berate me and point me to the last time it was discussed: There's a cat that has been hanging around outside my house lately. He (I think he's a he) is super-friendly and gets lots of skritches from me in the mornings. He'll then follow me for a block or two on my way to work. So basically I'm pretty sure he's mine now. He seems well-fed, but has no collar. Since I live outside Philly in an urban town with lots of traffic and it's February, I'm pretty sure the owner (if there is one) is not a good cat owner. I haven't decided if I want to adopt this cat, but I'm pretty sure I do. I don't currently have any pets, but I grew up with cats and dogs, so I know what's involved. Should I choose to So my questions are: Is this a bad idea in general? Do I have anything major to worry about with a (clean, well-fed) street cat? Is he going to hate me after a few days of becoming an indoor cat? Even if I decide not to take him in, is it a good idea to take him to a vet to see if he's chipped?
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Erwin posted:Hi cat thread. I'm sure this comes up all the time, so feel free to berate me and point me to the last time it was discussed: I'd say take him to a vet to check for chipping and if he isn't chipped or the owners respond that they threw him out get dat catte.
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Slickdrac posted:I know two cats is always the smarter way to go. But should I wait before getting our still surviving kitty a new playmate? First off, condolences on your loss. It is hard, but his life was definitely better with you around. That's without a doubt. I've only had experience with one being put down, but it was quick too and I would think that it is best that its quick for both the pet and us. As for getting another cat, in general i'd be concerned about doing things like this on impulse. I would wait before going to a shelter, but it's a matter of personal preference.
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Feb 20, 2013 18:03
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Erwin posted:So my questions are: Is this a bad idea in general? Do I have anything major to worry about with a (clean, well-fed) street cat? Is he going to hate me after a few days of becoming an indoor cat? Even if I decide not to take him in, is it a good idea to take him to a vet to see if he's chipped? If you want to go above-board you could try slapping a collar with a note on him and find if he has an owner that way. Someone's parents did this a while back with the 'Bengal in the backyard' thread - turns out it was a bengal cat that some college student left behind or didn't want anymore, so they got him free and clear.
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Feb 20, 2013 19:08
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Slickdrac posted:I know two cats is always the smarter way to go. But should I wait before getting our still surviving kitty a new playmate? Sorry about your kitty. FeLV really sucks. 
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Aiapaec is my first true cat. Had cats all the time growing up but Ai is the first one I've owned myself. He's also the first longhair cat I have ever dealt with. Usually his long hair causes no problems due to excellent self-grooming habits, twice-weekly brushing and a grain-free diet thanks to PI. However, last night his butt fluff came into play when I overfilled the litterbox and he managed to glue his poop to his fur. Cue chasing him around the house to figure out why he was suddenly butt dragging. Once the issue was discovered, I attempted to clean him with a warm wet cloth, but the mess was far too embedded in his fur thanks to Arm & Hammer clumping clay litter and 2 inches of thick double coat. Thus I ended up bathing a very unhappy and water-phobic cat at 2am in the morning. In the process of bathing, he scratched my arm and back and put a tooth clean through my skin (which I immediately cleaned, disinfected and covered in Polysporin). Afterwards he ate a spoonful of wet food mixed liberally with water and took a nice long drink from his water dish. He spent the rest of the night curled up next to me where he usually sleeps in his own "bed" (a folded fleece blanket on top of the bookshelf in my bedroom). He chased the da bird when I offered it and has at least peed in the box. His rear end in a top hat is a little red but otherwise looks okay. No sign of worms or anything immediately alarming. My arm is a bit sore from the single puncture wound but there's no swelling or bruising. Is there a point which either of us should go to the vet/doctor? I usually just wash and brush liquid bandage over any scratches and I've never been bitten this hard by a cat before.
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Erwin posted:Hi cat thread. I'm sure this comes up all the time, so feel free to berate me and point me to the last time it was discussed: Probably safer to bring them in, but it kind of sucks for a cat that enjoys going outdoors to be kept permanently indoors. I'm not too keen on what to do with changing it up on a cat. Maybe give him to someone who lives out in the country or away from busy roads? If you decide to accept him as your master, I'm sure he'll gift you many moments of letting you scratch and pet him.
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Cat bite = antibiotics. Make an appointment with your doctor as soon as possible. Their mouths are notoriously dirty.
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Re: bringing an outdoor cat in, it varies pet to pet. My sister has a guy the shelter found loose but friendly w no one to claim him, and he seems to appreciate how much better it is inside,never bolts or complains. Similarly, my Ozma was a farm cat with the whole wide world of open spaces at her paws. It took he'd about a month to give up trying to get out the front door,but now with plenty of toys and a pizza to play with she's quite satisfied with a window view of the outdoors. Just make indoors a desirable place to be. A cat knows when its been done a favor.
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We accidentally kidnapped our neighbors' cat once. The cat had no collar and spent most of her time hanging around outside our house, chasing birds in the alley behind our house, and waiting for my mom to take the dog out on a walk. Every time they'd go out the cat would trot along behind them down the street.  We'd been talking about getting a second cat anyway and it'd gotten to the point where the cat had her own food and water in our carport (sort of an open-air garage) and a little cardboard box bed with a towel in it. So one day my mom scooped her up and took her to the vet for shots and a checkup before making her an official inside cat, only to find out that the cat was already spayed (unheard of in the area for a stray, there was no TNR back then; and there was no chipping yet either). It turned out the cat belonged to our neighbors down the street, but they obviously weren't interested in having an inside cat or paying much attention to it. I still don't understand why people in the neighborhood let their cats out at all, given all the regular coyote sightings. Eventually they moved and took the cat with them -- in retrospect I think we were all hoping they'd leave the cat behind so we could actually take her in.
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I bought a Da Bird but it hasn't worked as intended... Sampson just looked petrified and hid under the bed for an hour. Whoops. Any other toy recommendations? He loves the laser pointer but I read that you should also use toys that cats can actually 'catch' so they don't get frustrated.
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Quote-Unquote posted:I read that you should also use toys that cats can actually 'catch' so they don't get frustrated. I hear people say this but I think it is stupid and projection. Cats don't give a gently caress. If it bugs you, end by putting the laser dot on a treat or piece of kibble on the ground.
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Erwin, take the cat to the vet first before you go buying a bunch of stuff. No sense spending heaps of money before you know if the cat is chipped or not, unless you want to get another cat anyway if this one is actually owned. I'd hesitate to snatch a cat off the street, but surely if it was a much loved outdoor cat you would have seen a collar at some point, even if he's the kind of cat that rips them off. We've got a collarless Persian that hangs around our house but I do know that he is owned and loved by the somewhat erratic student who lives over the road, but I'm not in the US and collars + indoor only cats aren't very common. Also Persians are gross. Much like the brachycephalic hate in the Rabdom Nonsense thread, flat faced cats aren't much better and this poor hideous thing waddles through life peering through a haze of eye crust and tears since its tear ducts don't work properly.
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Eggplant Wizard posted:Cat bite = antibiotics. Make an appointment with your doctor as soon as possible. Their mouths are notoriously dirty. Whoops. Ash bit me during a bath last spring (when we still had to wash him due to digestive troubles) and I just kind of disinfected it and went about my business. I didn't die, so I guess it worked out ok?
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Arkham Angel posted:Whoops. Ash bit me during a bath last spring (when we still had to wash him due to digestive troubles) and I just kind of disinfected it and went about my business. I didn't die, so I guess it worked out ok? Hey, you were a lucky one. Puncture wounds can be rather dicey because it's hard to disinfect all the way down. I mean obviously they don't all end in death and agony and whatever, but my cat bit me on a Sunday and I called the ER to see if I should come in or wait to see my doctor and they said YEP COME IN. That seems to be the general procedure. My brother got bit/scratched up by one of our cats when I was a kid and his arm swelled up and turned rather green  At that point they did take him to the hospital...
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Eggplant Wizard posted:I hear people say this but I think it is stupid and projection. Cats don't give a gently caress. If it bugs you, end by putting the laser dot on a treat or piece of kibble on the ground. I think it comes from the fact that dogs can definitely become pretty neurotic OCD wrecks if a laser pointer is used to play with them. I think in a cat that is prone to stress related diseases it might be better to use something they can catch, because one of mine definitely did become very obsessive about the laser pointer after the first couple of times, and there's no doubt IMO that it was causing some level of anxiety as it was a very common trigger that caused that cat to attack the other when the pointer was put away.
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Quote-Unquote posted:I bought a Da Bird but it hasn't worked as intended... Sampson just looked petrified and hid under the bed for an hour. Whoops. Any other toy recommendations? He loves the laser pointer but I read that you should also use toys that cats can actually 'catch' so they don't get frustrated. It's OK - it just takes a while for some cats. Grumples was terrified of Da Bird for weeks - we just had to teach him to play with it. Leave it out where he can find it and move it gently at first. He'll get there 
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Eggplant Wizard posted:Puncture wounds can be rather dicey because it's hard to disinfect all the way down. I mean obviously they don't all end in death and agony and whatever, but my cat bit me on a Sunday and I called the ER to see if I should come in or wait to see my doctor and they said YEP COME IN. That seems to be the general procedure. My wife almost lost a finger from a bite (on her knuckle) suffered while giving a cat a pill. Apparently she got to the doctor just in time.
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Topoisomerase posted:I think it comes from the fact that dogs can definitely become pretty neurotic OCD wrecks if a laser pointer is used to play with them. I think in a cat that is prone to stress related diseases it might be better to use something they can catch, because one of mine definitely did become very obsessive about the laser pointer after the first couple of times, and there's no doubt IMO that it was causing some level of anxiety as it was a very common trigger that caused that cat to attack the other when the pointer was put away. Really?  Mine figure out it's the pointer pretty quickly. Thanks for the correction.
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Eggplant Wizard posted:Hey, you were a lucky one. Puncture wounds can be rather dicey because it's hard to disinfect all the way down. I mean obviously they don't all end in death and agony and whatever, but my cat bit me on a Sunday and I called the ER to see if I should come in or wait to see my doctor and they said YEP COME IN. That seems to be the general procedure. My brother got bit/scratched up by one of our cats when I was a kid and his arm swelled up and turned rather green Yeah, it probably helped that it was shallow and he bit across my wrist rather than biting straight down. It scarred though.
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Tamarillo posted:Erwin, take the cat to the vet first before you go buying a bunch of stuff. No sense spending heaps of money before you know if the cat is chipped or not, unless you want to get another cat anyway if this one is actually owned.
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Quote-Unquote posted:I bought a Da Bird but it hasn't worked as intended... Sampson just looked petrified and hid under the bed for an hour. Whoops. Any other toy recommendations? He loves the laser pointer but I read that you should also use toys that cats can actually 'catch' so they don't get frustrated. Try again later; one of my cats loved it immediately, the other was freaked as all gently caress. Currently she digs it too and everything's fine. Cats.
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Ugh, weird situation. I live with three cats (two roomies, each has one, plus mine) and recently we've found pee on the floor. Of course I'm worried it might be my cat. However one of the other kitties is older (around 7 to 9 ish), and has had real bad problems with his urinary tract before. My kitty is young and has never had any such problems. Regardless, I'm still tempted to get a urinalysis done when I take my cat to the vet for her regular checkup on monday anyway. Would you say it'd be worth the money ($80)? I'm leaning towards no. She hasn't shown any strange behaviour, seems to be drinking water and eating just fine, but seeing as we haven't seen who's the pee phantom, I'm still really nervous about her. Especially because Reese (old cat with pee issues) also seems to be acting pretty normal, all things considered. He also acted normal last time we found Mystery Pee, until he got deathly and expensively sick suddenly a week later. What should I be looking for? I can't very well see if the litterbox is or isn't being used because there are three cats and also three litterboxes. I can't be all over the apartment at once. Should I just bank on it being the old cat with a known history of urinary problems? I mean chances are really good it's him but I also want to know what I should look for in my own kitty just to be safe. I let my roommate know about the mystery pee so she's keeping an eye on her own kitty.
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