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Pixelboy posted:I just noticed Hannity has been referring to himself as a "registered conservative." There's been a Conservative Party in New York state for the past 40 years or so. He's in it.
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Install Gentoo posted:There's been a Conservative Party in New York state for the past 40 years or so. He's in it. The more you know.....
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Feb 22, 2013 03:30
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Pixelboy posted:The more you know..... To further it: http://www.cpnys.org/ You see in New York State, electoral fusion is still allowed. That's where multiple parties get on the same ballot and get to endorse the same candidate. You can essentially vote for a third party to make a statement without wasting your vote, since it counts towards ballot access for that party and the people get elected based on all the votes for them under all parties. So for example: 
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Feb 22, 2013 04:04
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I actually wanted to use the themoreyouknow.jpg, but you know... 
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Feb 22, 2013 05:47
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Listen to enough enough of these guys, and they all at some point state that they are something other than registered Republicans. They often claim to be "independents" just to come off as unbiased, arriving at their obvious Republican talking points by careful and rational study.
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Feb 22, 2013 06:31
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Install Gentoo posted:To further it: http://www.cpnys.org/ This... is interesting. My home province flirted with the Single Transferable Vote, but something like this would mess them all up.
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Feb 22, 2013 06:55
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Pixelboy posted:This... is interesting. It actually used to be common in American politics until the late 19th century... when electoral fusion started seriously threatening the major parties. Now it's only allowable in 8 states, with New York using it the most.
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Feb 22, 2013 07:02
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Pixelboy posted:Is the Republican brand so toxic right now that he has to invent something new? Its his way of assuring his listeners that he's looking out for Them, not the "establishment" in Washington. It allows Hannity to keep distance between himself and right-wing political failures while still delivering the marching orders that often lead to those failures. When the Republicans suffer a defeat too grievous to be blamed solely on the lamestream media (though not for lack of trying), then the blame gets deflected towards the ambiguously defined "establishment" which may include a whipping boy or sacrificial lamb, but just as often remains unnamed. "We" weren't wrong, "they" let us down. All right-wing talk show hosts use the same trick in some form or another. Typical Pubbie fucked around with this message at 10:10 on Feb 22, 2013 |
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Feb 22, 2013 10:05
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This Onion article is perfect. Hackers Vandalized Drudge Report For Last 15 Years
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Feb 22, 2013 18:06
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Jeez, I think I'm a registered Conservative, actually.  I think I registered when I was handing in my draft card ages ago, and then I forgot about it. I guess that shows how important third-parties are. Man, things have changed so much since then, I should figure out how to change my voter registration. I hope it doesn't involve hazing. 
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Going back to Jack Swagger, now WWE wants Beck to show up on their main show, Raw: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20..._source=twitter If anyone has followed WWE over the years, Vince McMahon loves any sort of mainstream attention, no matter how relevant the celebrity is.
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zoux posted:This Onion article is perfect. It would explain a lot, really: http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/10/03/948751/10-totally-fake-stories-bannered-by-drudge-this-year/?mobile=nc quote:10 Totally Fake Stories Bannered By Drudge This Year (2012) That's just in 2012.
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Feb 22, 2013 20:15
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Still waiting on the Michelle Obama Whitey Tape, Drudge.
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Minorities posted:I'm 37 and I remember that movie but the post you replied to said "GOP all-stars" so I was really confused and thought you were saying that Woody Harrelson was a GOP all-star. Sorry for taking everything so literally. To be fair I saw that bit and my mind instantly jumped to Space Jam, though I did catch the actual connection a moment later. Kiwi Bigtree posted:While still a little niche in comparison to the usual rightwing media crazy, let it never be said moonbattery's Dave Blount is not uniquely talented at crafting beautiful new crazy terminology. drat, and here my US History class was just discussing colonists and headrights (land given to 
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So Limbaugh actually said yesterday "For the first time I am ashamed of my country". I get he was trying to do a riff on Michelle Obama's gaffe from five years ago, but surely that is going to bite him in the rear end.
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greatn posted:So Limbaugh actually said yesterday "For the first time I am ashamed of my country". I get he was trying to do a riff on Michelle Obama's gaffe from five years ago, but surely that is going to bite him in the rear end. No it won't. He's been bitten in the rear end a lot of times but it's so big that it hardly ever leaves a noticeable mark.
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BiggerBoat posted:No it won't. He's been bitten in the rear end a lot of times but it's so big that it hardly ever leaves a noticeable mark. He has lost so many sponsors and Clear Channel so much money in the last year it's ridiculous. You can always hope for the final straw.
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Feb 22, 2013 21:21
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Beowulfs_Ghost posted:Listen to enough enough of these guys, and they all at some point state that they are something other than registered Republicans. They often claim to be "independents" just to come off as unbiased, arriving at their obvious Republican talking points by careful and rational study. Where I live in the south I've met a lot of religious fanatics who will proudly tell you that they're independents, not Republicans. It seems to come down to the Republican party not being explicitly christian enough, believe it or not. Being "conservative, not Republican" appeals to those folks.
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zoux posted:This Onion article is perfect. The onion has been hitting home run after home run for so long now. This made me literally snort: quote:“All I can say is if someone in China is trying to make my website look like complete and utter poo poo then they’re doing a hell of a job.” At press time, sources confirm Drudge was consulting popular viral content aggregator Buzzfeed to see how they were dealing with a similar breach in security."
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Blastedhellscape posted:Where I live in the south I've met a lot of religious fanatics who will proudly tell you that they're independents, not Republicans. It seems to come down to the Republican party not being explicitly christian enough, believe it or not. Being "conservative, not Republican" appeals to those folks.
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FMguru posted:Similarly, I know a lot of leftier-than-thou types who vote straight Democrat (unless the election is a foregone conclusion, when they'll vote Green/Peace+Freedom/Hilarious Comedy Option) yet have nothing good to say about the Ds and love to complain about the lack of a real, viable liberal party they could wholeheartedly support. And there are lots of people who put a lot of stock in their self-image as unbiased free-thinkers who approach all elections with an open mind...and tend to vote for one party 90%+ of the time. If people are unhappy with their choice during an election then they should get involved before an election to give themselves a better choice. The impact that a motivated individual can have on a primary, especially a local primary, can be measurable.
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I'm pretty sure one of the spaces on that Republican bingo card picture is "I'm an independent even though I've been voting R for 30 years!" I believe the person in the space is some smug looking rear end in a top hat.
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Cross posting from the GOP re-building thread because I meant to post it here, but Ann Coulter said some bullshit.Ann Coulter posted:
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That's the best and most concise description I've ever heard of what Ann Coulter does. Well put. As the goalposts and the Overton Window move, she's forced to re-align her cross hairs and rhetoric in order to still be edgy and controversial. Calling McCarthy a hero and advocating nuclear annihilation of the middle east isn't enough anymore. Out of all of the people cited in this thread, I count her amongst the worst of the worst. She appears to know better and her poo poo is so far over the top that it's obvious to anyone paying attention that she's only in it for the money and hardly believes any of it, but the constant doubling down, persecution complex and stubborn relevance, combined with the effect she seems to have on her readers as a bastion of conservative intellectualism bugs me more than it probably should. My father in law thinks she's "brilliant".
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Rush Limbaugh is killing Clear Channel and he has a contract until 2016. Will Clear Channel survive? Will they keep cutting jobs and scaling back other shows to keep this guy on the radio? Prabably. Buried on the business page of mysanantonio.com today, so brief you could easily have missed it, was the news that Clear Channel Media Holdings just reported losses for the last quarter of 2012 of $191 million, and $424 million for all of 2012. Clear Channel has been in trouble for a long time for a variety of reasons, but one factor that contributed to their losses in 2012 was the death spiral of their golden boy radio host Rush Limbaugh. Just shy of a year ago, Limbaugh launched a cruel 3 day attack on Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke, following her testimony before a Congressional panel regarding health care and birth control. His advertisers have been heading for the doors ever since, thanks in large part to groups like The Flush Rush Facebook community and #StopRush Twitter. Here are the current number of sponsors who have voluntarily removed their ads from Limbaugh's show: Total = 2484. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/20/1188686/-Clear-Channel-Loses-424-Million-in-2012-StopRush-Rolls-On
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Clear Channel already ravaged and ruined much of my local stations over the years - I want to say good riddance to bad rubbish, but other than this one alternative station that plays mainly local bands and supports the independent music scene here, there's literally nothing on the radio I want to listen to. It's all podcasts and pandora for me. It's a shame because the 'best of the best' DJs in radio are those that bring something amazing to DJing. I guess that's sorta being replaced by music podcasts though.
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I've always been interested in where radio will go in the next ten or so years. With TV and all they still had the edge on 'well you can't walk and drive around with a TV!' but now even XM radio stations are switching to podcast heavy formats. I have no idea how something like Clear Chanel is going to stay afloat if they only have Rush.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I've always been interested in where radio will go in the next ten or so years. With TV and all they still had the edge on 'well you can't walk and drive around with a TV!' but now even XM radio stations are switching to podcast heavy formats. I have no idea how something like Clear Chanel is going to stay afloat if they only have Rush. The only thing radio has going for it is its immediacy. Live newscasts, traffic updates, live DJ events/interviews/call-ins, and so on. If they're just replaying podcasts, then what's the loving point?
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Spacedad posted:The only thing radio has going for it is its immediacy. Live newscasts, traffic updates, live DJ events/interviews/call-ins, and so on. A lot of Clear Channel's stations may as well be playing podcasts at this point. They're basically just servers in a cabinet somewhere that prerecorded station IDs, ads, and playlist programs get loaded into. During Hurricane Ivan they didn't even bother broadcasting useful evacuation info or weather updates.
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Seoinin posted:A lot of Clear Channel's stations may as well be playing podcasts at this point. They're basically just servers in a cabinet somewhere that prerecorded station IDs, ads, and playlist programs get loaded into. During Hurricane Ivan they didn't even bother broadcasting useful evacuation info or weather updates. Exactly. Most of what they did to local stations is remove all local DJs and just put on prerecorded junk. Even local commentators who maintained substantial popularity in their areas got the axe - in favor of nonstop prerecorded Limbaugh/Hannity/etc. One of the things I always loved doing as a kid on family trips was finding some of the weird or unique local stations when we were staying in a particular area. In adulthood, almost all the stations sound the loving same.
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Looking forward to the death of Clear Channel.
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McDowell posted:Looking forward to the death of Clear Channel. They've been a cancer on broadcasting for a while, but honestly, without them, radio would have a lot more longevity in this day and age as a medium - I would STILL listen to radio if the programming was actually good. With rare exceptions like a couple local stations here and national public radio, it's all poo poo. Unfortunately clear channel dying also means they're probably going to be taking much of radio broadcasting with them. But yeah - other countries still have radio going strong. Particularly Britain, where BBC radio drama plays are as popular as television shows. (Some are even tied to various ongoing British TV shows.) The medium of radio is still plenty good - it's just dying because the business side of things has ravaged and ruined it. I feel that television is similarly starting to die a slow death as well, due primarily to low-quality programming. (Bad reality shows, bad cable news, relentless commercial breaks, etc.) Spacedad fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Feb 23, 2013 |
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Seoinin posted:A lot of Clear Channel's stations may as well be playing podcasts at this point. They're basically just servers in a cabinet somewhere that prerecorded station IDs, ads, and playlist programs get loaded into. During Hurricane Ivan they didn't even bother broadcasting useful evacuation info or weather updates. Although somewhat more covertly, that seems good for stenography; talk about dog whistles.
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Figured this would be a good place to put this. PBS has a neat documentary on the Texas Board of Eduacation. And no, it is not just evolution. It is much much worse. The part where the board voted down an amendment to teach the not favoring religion portion of the first amendment was pretty ridiculous. Bonus points for the board members not understanding the scientific terminology they are debating adding to textbooks.
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orangesampson posted:Rush Limbaugh is killing Clear Channel and he has a contract until 2016. Will Clear Channel survive? Will they keep cutting jobs and scaling back other shows to keep this guy on the radio? Prabably. Are Rush's advertisers more legitimate than some of the other hosts discussed in this thread? I never hear Rush but Beck, Hannity, and Levin all play in my area and their ads are all strikingly similar. It's all fear based junk: buy gold, protect against identity thieves, and emergency food. Is there a reason Rush can't just peddle the same ads that the rest of his ilk do? I can't the guys selling Lifelock would care about Rush Limbaugh tarnishing their image.
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How is public radio in your parts? In Minnesota and Wisconsin it's a pretty strong institution but from what I've heard in other states the quality isn't even close.
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For central NC, there's a handful of college stations, NPR, and the vast wasteland of Clear Channel. This week has been obnoxious since one of the two college stations is part NPR, so coupled with the actual NPR station, there is no way to get out of PLEASE GIVE US YOUR DOLLARS OH GOD PLEASEEEEEEEEE. I cycled through the 6 presets I have yesterday afternoon and it was pretty pathetic. College Station: Baseball College/Jazz: NPR Donation Chat Classical: The opera NPR: NPR Donation Chat Clear Channel Pop: Some terrible advertisement Clear Channel Rock: Some terrible advertisement for a truck
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ClothHat posted:Are Rush's advertisers more legitimate than some of the other hosts discussed in this thread? I never hear Rush but Beck, Hannity, and Levin all play in my area and their ads are all strikingly similar. It's all fear based junk: buy gold, protect against identity thieves, and emergency food. Is there a reason Rush can't just peddle the same ads that the rest of his ilk do? I can't the guys selling Lifelock would care about Rush Limbaugh tarnishing their image. He probably charges more for advertising.
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Spacedad posted:They've been a cancer on broadcasting for a while, but honestly, without them, radio would have a lot more longevity in this day and age as a medium - I would STILL listen to radio if the programming was actually good. With rare exceptions like a couple local stations here and national public radio, it's all poo poo. Radio wasn't any better beforehand, it was always mostly crap and syndicated crap at that as soon as it was practical to do that. I've always found it funny how people get upset that radio stations play the same thing nationwide but somehow don't mind when TV stations do it. We're talking about networked broadcasting here, and it's been the norm since before the second world war.
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Install Gentoo posted:Radio wasn't any better beforehand, it was always mostly crap and syndicated crap at that as soon as it was practical to do that. I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. I definitely felt radio programming that was more strongly influenced by local DJs was far preferable, warts and all. In my travels it definitely seemed that it was the mid to late 90s where the homogenization of playlists made stations sound identical anywhere in the country and more or less coincided to me stopping listening to the radio at all. It did seem like the Clear Channel takeover era had a lot to do with this.
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Zwabu posted:I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. I definitely felt radio programming that was more strongly influenced by local DJs was far preferable, warts and all. In my travels it definitely seemed that it was the mid to late 90s where the homogenization of playlists made stations sound identical anywhere in the country and more or less coincided to me stopping listening to the radio at all. It did seem like the Clear Channel takeover era had a lot to do with this. There is no "agree to disagree" here. Network programming dominance is the history of American radio. Hearing the same stuff everywhere in the country is the point of a network, just like you see all the same shows on NBC in Tulsa as in New York City or Seattle. There was a time period where the old guard radio networks had kinda wound down in the face of the extreme competition from TV and the new radio networks hadn't yet set in; but that was little more than a passing aberration. There had been another time period where FM was new and every station on it was experimenting in one way or another while the AM band was mainstream and samey, but that only lasted til FM had a wide userbase and stations started to move their primary broadcasts to it (which incidentally led to the rise of AM talk radio - with FM being demonstrably superior for music, people with AM spectrum on their hands needed something to fill time with!) Oh and having the same playlists, generated by computers, used in multiple stations? That has an awful lot to do with seeking to avoid payola accusations. Edit: Like seriously, all of these right wing personalities on the radio - they came from trying to fill the AM band again after the old network broadcasting system broke down and music didn't cut it on AM anymore. Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Feb 23, 2013 |
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