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tirinal
Feb 5, 2007
Skype has come a long way and works perfectly for me over 4g. I place all international calls through it, and would place local calls as well if minutes were a problem and I didn't talk to everyone by text. I also have a Skype number subscription and it's pretty useful.

I bought an iPhone 5 outright recently (proxy; cheaper even with shipping) and bought out my S3 so I could switch plans and resell it. The iPhone is around 55k a month through KT using the non-basic plan.

Kakaotalk is poo poo for any number of reasons and I hate that it's becoming more popular.

The wibro is actually pretty awesome and I'm surprised more people don't use it.

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politicorific
Sep 15, 2007

tirinal posted:

I bought an iPhone 5 outright recently (proxy; cheaper even with shipping) and bought out my S3 so I could switch plans and resell it. The iPhone is around 55k a month through KT using the non-basic plan.
The Apple USA site lists an unlocked 5 at 649 USD, which is roughly 704,000 KRW. You're paying 55,000 on top of that for service? Which plan do you have? How many minutes, messages, and MB? My figures put that at almost 85,000/month over 2 years

tirinal
Feb 5, 2007
I would have to check (in subway), but I believe I have either the LTE-520 or 620 plan. Regarding proxies, you can get new or nearly new iPhones for a fraction of the Apple.com retail, because as mentioned Korea was excluded from the list of first- and second- release countries and it doesn't command a premium abroad anymore.

I use OSX due to some exclusive audio software, and switched to an iOS device for ease of syncing. I wouldn't extrapolate anything from my case. I despise Samsung hardware, but Android is a far sleeker and more adaptable platform if you are at all tech savvy and the welded battery alone of the iPhone almost killed it for me.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

Tirius posted:

Does anyone have any experience with Avalon? I've been back in Canada for a couple years now (Getting a B.Ed and TESL Certification) and I'm looking to get back to Korea.

Avalon looks pretty good so far, pay seems OK, haven't heard any major complaints about the chain.

The books are OK and there's a lot of structure. If push comes to shove and I had to do another hagwon I'd probably do Avalon again.

cryptoclastic
Jul 3, 2003

The Jesus
I have the 32g model with 5g LTE a month of LTE and I pay around 90,000. That site sounds like a ripoff. My friend got the 16g model with 2.5g LTE a month and hers is a bit under 80,000 a month.

politicorific
Sep 15, 2007

tirinal posted:

I would have to check (in subway), but I believe I have either the LTE-520 or 620 plan. Regarding proxies, you can get new or nearly new iPhones for a fraction of the Apple.com retail, because as mentioned Korea was excluded from the list of first- and second- release countries and it doesn't command a premium abroad anymore.
So, you have a friend working for Apple, an apple reseller, or know someone working for KT/SK and they managed to cut you a deal on an iphone.

cryptoclastic posted:

I have the 32g model with 5g LTE a month of LTE and I pay around 90,000. That site sounds like a ripoff. My friend got the 16g model with 2.5g LTE a month and hers is a bit under 80,000 a month.

Looks like buying from the Korean Apple store is a rip off, yes. But those screen shots are from the KT iOS app.
Another friend signed up for one yesterday and sent a photo of
32GB 946,000 (apple.kr 1,030,000) 3 year device contract
24 month service contract LTE 420 - 42,000 200min/1.5GB/200sms
56,932/month

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Yeah, I'll be the first to admit that I don't get Korean (or US) cellphone plans. I do think I'm gonna skip the iPhone 5 though, it would be nice but to get it I'd have to pay off the 400,000 left on the first phone I lost.

The guy at the cell phone store is cool though, it's in the same building as my hagwon so we always smoke together. I get paid tomorrow and he said hes going to try to find me a used 4s for a lot cheaper so we'll see.

I honestly just want ios, I know android is better but I've already sold my soul to apple with this iPad and it's just a lot easier to keep things running smoothly if I have an iPhone.

The Gay Bean
Apr 19, 2004
Wibro for me is 10k a month with a free IP registration on Olleh WiFi and 10 GB of data. That includes the price of the egg. 20 GB is 15k and 30 GB is 25k?

The speed is literally faster than a cable internet connection in the USA. Everybody inexplicably hates it so there's never network congestion. If they had an unlimited plan for like 40ish I would just cancel my home internet.

Downsides are 9 hour battery life and bad connection through physical barriers. The battery thing kinda sucks, but I have gotten a ton of use out of the thing.

big boi
Jun 11, 2007

Hey guys, where should I eat in Seoul? I'm leaving Korea for good and my girl and I want to go for a nice dinner before we fly out. Looking to spend around 50k per person, preferably not-Korean food, but I can be swayed. I hear there's a nice Brazilian steakhouse in the city? Any other suggestions? Thanks all.

AmbientParadox
Mar 2, 2005
I'm supposed to go to Seoul Immigration today and pick up my new ARC. However, the moving company is coming today at some point to pick up my stuff. There's a distinct possibility I won't make it to immigration today.
Will there be an issue at immigration about picking up my card Monday morning before work instead?

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
The Brazilian steakhouse in Itaewon wasn't too good. It's a steak buffet so all the meat is cooked one way and sort of forgettable. That's the only Brazilian steakhouse I know of.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Mercado in Gangnam is the one you want, it's loving amazing. The chicken hearts were the surprise hit of my meal there. And when you say rare, they do it rare. I stared at my meat in awe at its beauty before I could bring myself to eat. I can't give directions but the internet can.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

AmbientParadox posted:

I'm supposed to go to Seoul Immigration today and pick up my new ARC. However, the moving company is coming today at some point to pick up my stuff. There's a distinct possibility I won't make it to immigration today.
Will there be an issue at immigration about picking up my card Monday morning before work instead?

I doubt it will be a problem, but I just picked up my new ARC yesterday. At least in Ansan it's the quickest thing, I was in and out in five minutes. They have a pickup window that you just walk up to (no number, just a line. There was one guy in front of me and one woman who tried to cut but gently caress that.) Hand them your receipt and they walk back and grab it, and you're done.

So, if you can find even just a little bit of time today you can get it no problem.

joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar
So, uh... they've really doubled down on that porn ban, huh?

First impressions of Busan - like Seoul but with more hills and grime. I'm liking it so far.

AmbientParadox
Mar 2, 2005
Alright moving update:

I had a friend contact the Korean Postal Service, and they schedule a pick-up of your things. They will deliver it on whatever day you need that they're working. It's w8,500 a box. The downside though, is you don't know what time they'll come. I suppose you could get a better time estimate, but I waited for 7 hours today. My day isn't completely shot, but it did screw with my immigration visit today.

Still cheaper than a moving truck :mmmhmm:

The Gay Bean
Apr 19, 2004
I paid 80,000 for a dude to come, pick up 15 boxes plus a futon, and help unload everything. If you load the boxes yourself it's 50.000. You can ride in the cab too.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

joedevola posted:

So, uh... they've really doubled down on that porn ban, huh?

Brothel Owners got a good lobby behind them. drat shame too cuz if there is one industry I want to see Korea compete with Japan in, it's wild and crazy censored nudie movies. I want to know what Korea's word for bukkake is and how bad they would claim they invented it first.

Milksteak
Dec 1, 2002
Neat article mentioning Yongsan Park, which is now occupied by the military base. Housing prices are also the largest indicator of the health of the Korean economy, along with exports.

3.3 sq meters = 1 pyong

So yeah a two bedroom 20 pyong place in a newly constructed building should supposedly set you back almost $600k USD.

quote:

Recession Changes Map of Housing Market

The map of rich neighborhoods in the Seoul metropolitan area is changing as a result of a real estate market slump that has been going on since the financial crisis started in 2008.

More people are giving serious consideration to finding an environment where they can live comfortably and conveniently, rather than investing in property in the hope that the price will go up and make them rich.

Emerging neighborhoods include Banpo-dong in Seocho and a part of Yongsan, both in Seoul, and Pangyo in Seongnam, Gyeonggi Province.

Housing prices in Banpo-dong have risen more sharply over the past five years than in established upscale areas such as Apgujeong-dong, Daechi-dong and Gaepo-dong in the Gangnam district.

According to estate agents Dr. Apartment, the average apartment price in Banpo-dong rose from W32.65 million per 3.3 sq.m. in January 2008 to W34.24 million. In contrast, housing prices in Apgujeong-dong, Daechi-dong and Gaepo-dong fell more than 20 percent over the past five years, even though many older apartments are being renovated there.

"The market situation changed drastically after 5,000 new luxury apartment units were built there around 2009," an estate agent in Banpo-dong said. "They attracted a lot of attention, which drove up their prices."

This is also true of parts of Gyeonggi Province. Apartments in Pangyo now cost on average W19.56 million per 3.3 sq.m., up about 2.6 percent from April 2009 when many people moved into new apartments there. By contrast, the average price of apartments in nearby Bundang fell 12.5 percent to W15.13 million.

Many homes in Bundang have already become obsolescent because they are more than 20 years old. But in Pangyo many new apartments were built and office workers moved in as one company after another rushed into Pangyo. The proximity to Seoul is another draw.

The part of Yongsan in Seoul where Yongsan Park is under development is now drawing more interest than upscale Hannam-dong in the same district. The government decided in 2011 to build Yongsan Park, measuring 2.42 million sq.m., with a plan to develop the area and open it to the public from 2017.

The average apartment price nearby is now W33.4 million per 3.3 sq.m., making it the second most expensive area in Seoul after Banpo-dong.

"An increasing number of people are starting to consider their current utility the most important factor when they buy homes, rather than investment for the future," said Ham Young-jin at Real Estate 114.

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

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The Gay Bean posted:

I paid 80,000 for a dude to come, pick up 15 boxes plus a futon, and help unload everything. If you load the boxes yourself it's 50.000. You can ride in the cab too.

Wish I had heard from you earlier. All quotes were 170k to 200k and they refuse to do stairs.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

The banks are gonna be closed tomorrow right?

Which means I'm going to have to get to Yongsan, buy what I can find all with 100k.

Which means I can only do that and not party in Seoul, gently caress why am I not paid yet? I'm usually paid the last day of the month.

Do any of you guys have a "my life in Korea!!" blog?

erobadapazzi
Jul 23, 2007
I've got a Tumblr I upload a photo to each day with a super short caption. It's mostly for my parents and in-laws, but it is kind of one of those things...

terivinix
Feb 15, 2012
I have a photoblog but "My life in Korea" involves light lawbreaking and snowman arson.

AmbientParadox
Mar 2, 2005
Anyone in Seoul selling a vacuum? This apt is p gross.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
I think I've been really unlucky with my gyms. It's absolutely enraging. People (read: ajjoshis) just camp out on the highest traffic machines like the chest press and the inclined bench and either do a hundred slow reps, rest or even just leave their poo poo on the machines and get huffy if you move them. I've seen ajjoshis reading the newspaper on the only chest press in the whole goddamn gym. I know a lot of them think they are lords and masters of all they see but jesus christ. It's getting to be where if I walk in and see a full gym I just want to turn around and walk back out.



What I don't understand is why these old retired guys show up at peak hours. You've got the whole day free, why not roll in at one when the gym is empty?

joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar

AmbientParadox posted:

Anyone in Seoul selling a vacuum? This apt is p gross.

Did you have a backpack full of clothes, self made montages of hundreds of photos and a computer left in yours? Or a solid year of grime and discarded hair?

No, you did not.

I'm terrified to turn on the laptop she left, I'm sure that's when the Saw dude will appear on the TV.

THE LUMMOX
Nov 29, 2004

joedevola posted:

Did you have a backpack full of clothes, self made montages of hundreds of photos and a computer left in yours? Or a solid year of grime and discarded hair?

No, you did not.

I'm terrified to turn on the laptop she left, I'm sure that's when the Saw dude will appear on the TV.


Do you have Kakao yet? Add your name ID to the doc and make it searchable if you want to join groupchat.

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

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You want to join group chat.

joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar
I don't have a phone yet, is there a desktop version?

THE LUMMOX
Nov 29, 2004

joedevola posted:

I don't have a phone yet, is there a desktop version?

There's an android desktop emulator I think it's called Bluestacks. It blows though and still requires you to receive a confirmation SMS on some number.

Do you have an ipod touch?

joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar

THE LUMMOX posted:

There's an android desktop emulator I think it's called Bluestacks. It blows though and still requires you to receive a confirmation SMS on some number.

Do you have an ipod touch?

I do but it's a first generation, it won't run any apps released in the last few years. I expect I'll have a phone soon. I'm quite keen on the gigantic tablet style phones everyone here has now.

erobadapazzi
Jul 23, 2007
New coteacher appears not to speak any English. Either she is just really nervous, or my Korean will have lots of opportunity to improve.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Anyone know where I can find the rules to "Simon Says" in Korean? I'm teaching second graders with no English experience and I'm starting with classroom commands.

erobadapazzi
Jul 23, 2007
I can't answer your question, but I'd recommend altering the game somewhat. I like to do it with "please," as that is a lot more important for them to know than "Simon says." I've always been able to get the point of the game across through demonstration, as well. It's helpful to explain in Korean a little about why "please" is important (since it's not directly equivalent from Korean to English), but they can understand the game easily enough.

The bright ones will catch on quickly and help the others, as well.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
First day of school!

My office is freezing cold and my coteacher and I both appear to be deskwarming all day. I guess this is "welcome to Korea", eh?

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

Tao Jones posted:

First day of school!

My office is freezing cold and my coteacher and I both appear to be deskwarming all day. I guess this is "welcome to Korea", eh?

Lessons start tomorrow.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.

Toussaint Louverture posted:

Lessons start tomorrow.

Ah, that makes sense.

THE LUMMOX
Nov 29, 2004

Toussaint Louverture posted:

Lessons start tomorrow.

You say that like public schools operate on a centrally planned schedule and not at the whims of a megalomaniacal administrator who runs the place like a feudal lord.

Information from one school is only applicable to another in the most broad and vaguest of senses.

Ojjeorago
Sep 21, 2008

I had a dream, too. It wasn't pleasant, though ... I dreamt I was a moron...
Gary’s Answer
I have one class on Tuesday, and then 7 on Wednesday. :psyduck:

tirinal
Feb 5, 2007
Well, to be fair, some of it is universally applicable.

Lessons will either start for him tomorrow, or never.

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fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
I've been having fun terrifying the kids who've been brave enough to open my office door (by saying hello to them, generally resulting in screaming and running away), so it's not a total wash.

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