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Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.
I got in on my first try, fresh out of undergrad. Just take the test and see how things shake out.

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Saho
Jun 9, 2012

TCD posted:

My comment was specifically on DC hires in the March class who don't get per diem..

Whoops. I'm not bright.

CherryCola
Apr 15, 2002

'ahtaj alshifa

Diplomaticus posted:

Ugh, in the words of several people this was "the most hosed up, awful medivac ever." Was good to meet Tyro and HiroProtaganist though.


I would be surprised if there was a class in recent history that didn't have someone in your position. Pretty much every A-100 class is going to have a certain number of people who don't have more than a BS. There is literally no downside to applying. At worst, you're right back where you started with more insight into the process.

It wasn't good to meet me?? :( :(

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Diplomaticus posted:

Ugh, in the words of several people this was "the most hosed up, awful medivac ever." Was good to meet Tyro and HiroProtaganist though.

Hopefully you can drink next time.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.
Ohh that sucks.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

CherryCola posted:

It wasn't good to meet me?? :( :(

Ahh I knew I was forgetting someone, yeah you too!

psydude posted:

Hopefully you can drink next time.

Wait, you were there? Who were you?

Continuous
Jan 5, 2013

Diplomaticus posted:

I would be surprised if there was a class in recent history that didn't have someone in your position. Pretty much every A-100 class is going to have a certain number of people who don't have more than a BS. There is literally no downside to applying. At worst, you're right back where you started with more insight into the process.

Just want to echo this, since this question has come up a few times.

It is absolutely possible to get in without an advanced degree, without extensive foreign travel, and with relatively limited work experience. I got in with "only" a BA, and I don't have an extensive amount of work or travel experience.

It took me a few tries to get past the QEP, though, so it wasn't exactly an easy ride, but it is certainly doable.

As Diplomaticus and many others have mentioned, there really is no downside to giving it a shot if you're interested; you never know, you just may end up making it through!

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Diplomaticus posted:

Wait, you were there? Who were you?

I was the tall guy with the beard on your team.

psydude fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Feb 28, 2013

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009

psydude posted:

I was the tall guy with the beard on your team.

Somehow I didn't make that connection either! Glad to meet you, and everyone else.

kys
Dec 8, 2007

Let's run this shit down to sea level!
Took the FSOT Feb. 2, passed multiple choice with 171 but failed the essay portion with a 5 out of 12. Any tips for next year? I selected Consular Track because I'm currently a CBPO at Skid row.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

Tyro posted:

Somehow I didn't make that connection either! Glad to meet you, and everyone else.

Yeah, me neither. Good to meet you psydude.

Blooregard
Sep 7, 2012
Passed the FSOT, now on to the QEP where I've crashed and burned twice now. Any tips or suggestions?

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
Just found out I passed the FSOT.

Onward!

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Blooregard posted:

Passed the FSOT, now on to the QEP where I've crashed and burned twice now. Any tips or suggestions?

Passed FSOT for the 1st time here, glad someone is going to ask for tips on the QEP. I know I almost certainly will not make it through the entire process, but I'm just going to keep trying.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Apparently my English Expression skills need work! I never was good at that portion on standardized tests. Oh well.

Vulich the Subtle
Nov 25, 2012

Paul is unimpressed by the glories of the Host.
Passed the FSOT. First try, which bodes well for me regarding important career-related stuff. Especially proud of my essay score, since I felt I approached it incorrectly.

Edit: My English Expression was oddly poor, wonder where I lost it.

Smoke Machine
Aug 8, 2008
I just found found out that I passed the FSOT. Does anyone have a breakdown of the scores or advice for the QEPs?

d1rtbag
Sep 13, 2012

Eternal Man-Child

kys posted:

Took the FSOT Feb. 2, passed multiple choice with 171 but failed the essay portion with a 5 out of 12. Any tips for next year? I selected Consular Track because I'm currently a CBPO at Skid row.

With a 5/12, you should consider requesting that the essay be regraded. I think it costs $35, but since the score is a composite of 2 graders, that means one person passed you and the other failed you. A regrade may get you over the hump.

Total Confusion
Oct 9, 2004

d1rtbag posted:

With a 5/12, you should consider requesting that the essay be regraded. I think it costs $35, but since the score is a composite of 2 graders, that means one person passed you and the other failed you. A regrade may get you over the hump.

Does the essay score help you much or is it as long as you pass, it doesn't matter if you got a 6 or a 12? (or is the answer to that question inside the black box of the QEP?)

hitension
Feb 14, 2005


Hey guys, I learned Chinese so that I can write shame in another language
It doesn't necessarily mean that-- he could have scored a 2 and a 3, for example. That seems far more likely to me than a 5 and a 0.


To add actual content:
State Department is hiring "Consular Adjudicators"(Spanish and Mandarin) and "Passport specialists", look them up on USAJobs. 3 more months and I could apply!

d1rtbag
Sep 13, 2012

Eternal Man-Child
Sequester fun:

OMB put up a report of the funding impact of sequestration. It looks like the requested State Department budget was built to withstand any impact. Page 147 of the PDF is the beginning of State funding, and sets out the sequestrable Net Budget for Diplomatic and Consular Programs as roughly $10.9 Billion, with a potential sequester impact of around $1.1 Billion, leaving us with $9.8 Billion.

The previous budget projections from State and OMB appear to be requesting $9.6 Billion for FY 2013, so we MAY be okay. By comparison, in FY 2012 State received $8.9 Billion for Administration of Foreign Affairs (which includes Diplomatic and Consular Programs), down from $11.2 Billion in 2011.

The only problem with this analysis, is that these budget numbers are often fudged a bit depending upon who is drafting the report. Strangely enough, the amount requested for Diplomatic and Consular Programs is sometimes listed as only $7.1 Billion for FY 2013, which leads me to believe some versions of the report require that we look at the entire Administration of Foreign Affairs budget.

At the end of the day, I could be completely wrong, but this gives me a way to stay sane as I push toward my OA next week.

d1rtbag
Sep 13, 2012

Eternal Man-Child

hitension posted:

It doesn't necessarily mean that-- he could have scored a 2 and a 3, for example. That seems far more likely to me than a 5 and a 0.


To add actual content:
State Department is hiring "Consular Adjudicators"(Spanish and Mandarin) and "Passport specialists", look them up on USAJobs. 3 more months and I could apply!

Yes, that's what I meant. One person likely gave him a 3 (passing) and the other a 2 (failing) for a total of 5 out of 12 possible points.

kys
Dec 8, 2007

Let's run this shit down to sea level!

d1rtbag posted:

With a 5/12, you should consider requesting that the essay be regraded. I think it costs $35, but since the score is a composite of 2 graders, that means one person passed you and the other failed you. A regrade may get you over the hump.

Letter's already in the mail! Thanks for the heads up, I had no idea I could ask for a re-score.

d1rtbag
Sep 13, 2012

Eternal Man-Child

Gold and a Pager posted:

Does the essay score help you much or is it as long as you pass, it doesn't matter if you got a 6 or a 12? (or is the answer to that question inside the black box of the QEP?)

I got a 6 on my essay, and made it through the QEP, so it didn't seem to hurt me at all. There is speculation all over the place as to how much the essay matters for QEP, but I've encountered a lot of people who got a 6-8 who are going to the OA.

CeramicPig
Oct 9, 2012
Got my results today. Failed by 9 points. At least I know what to expect for next year. What's the max amount of points you could get in each section?

problematique
Apr 3, 2008

What saves a man is to take a step. Then another step. It is always the same step, but you have to take it.

d1rtbag posted:

Sequester fun:

OMB put up a report of the funding impact of sequestration. It looks like the requested State Department budget was built to withstand any impact. Page 147 of the PDF is the beginning of State funding, and sets out the sequestrable Net Budget for Diplomatic and Consular Programs as roughly $10.9 Billion, with a potential sequester impact of around $1.1 Billion, leaving us with $9.8 Billion.

The previous budget projections from State and OMB appear to be requesting $9.6 Billion for FY 2013, so we MAY be okay. By comparison, in FY 2012 State received $8.9 Billion for Administration of Foreign Affairs (which includes Diplomatic and Consular Programs), down from $11.2 Billion in 2011.

The only problem with this analysis, is that these budget numbers are often fudged a bit depending upon who is drafting the report. Strangely enough, the amount requested for Diplomatic and Consular Programs is sometimes listed as only $7.1 Billion for FY 2013, which leads me to believe some versions of the report require that we look at the entire Administration of Foreign Affairs budget.

At the end of the day, I could be completely wrong, but this gives me a way to stay sane as I push toward my OA next week.

Thanks for the analysis! I too have been pouring over anything to calm me down.

Maybe an obvious question, but how come the sequestrable net budget for diplomatic and consular programs is so much higher than the FY2013 budget? Why wouldn't the sequester effect the current FY2013 budget of $9.6B?

From what you're saying it sounds like they bloated (or somehow added something else) to the request in anticipation of a future cut to that higher number which nets a much smaller actualized cost when you compare a year on year budget difference.

problematique fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Feb 28, 2013

d1rtbag
Sep 13, 2012

Eternal Man-Child

problematique posted:

Thanks for the analysis! I too have been pouring over anything to calm me down.

Maybe an obvious question, but how come the sequestrable net budget for diplomatic and consular programs is so much higher than the FY2013 budget? Why wouldn't the sequester effect the current FY2013 budget of $9.6B?

From what you're saying it sounds like they bloated (or somehow added something else) to the request in anticipation of a future cut to that higher number which nets a much smaller actualized cost when you compare a year on year budget difference.

My suspicion is that they planned for the sequester, and increased the budget request accordingly. Alternatively, losing diplomats and staff in Benghazi may have led to an increase in requested funding by the end of the year.

I just wish congress and the president could be forced to work it out. When a vital industry has a labor dispute, the federal government sometimes orders the parties back into negotiations; it would only be fair to lock our elected officials in a room, sequestered like jury members, until they work something out. 536 Angry Men?

d1rtbag fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Feb 28, 2013

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
Does your score on the FSOT matter beyond passing or failing? Like, does a high FSOT score translate into an overall higher score once on the register?

Strudelmeyer
Sep 17, 2012

Barracuda Bang! posted:

Does your score on the FSOT matter beyond passing or failing? Like, does a high FSOT score translate into an overall higher score once on the register?

Register score is from your OA + language points + veteran points

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Diplomaticus posted:

Ugh, in the words of several people this was "the most hosed up, awful medivac ever." Was good to meet Tyro and HiroProtaganist though.

Likewise, buddy. I had a blast!

psydude posted:

Hopefully you can drink next time.

Well we did do a shot in Sean's memory. :v:

HiroProtagonist fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Feb 28, 2013

Salt Maker
Feb 5, 2006
Halogen was already taken
Didn't pass this time by one point (152.6), which is always hard to accept. Next time, I'll focus studying on English Expression.

SCRwM
Sep 17, 2012
Both kids got their Class 1 medical clearance this week. So the Med box is now checked a-ok for all of us. Just waiting for the security investigation to begin....

Fatewarns
Aug 10, 2003
Eater of third world virgins.
Passed the multiple choice, but got a 4 on the essay. Would the regrade generally be able to improve the essay score?

d1rtbag
Sep 13, 2012

Eternal Man-Child

Fatewarns posted:

Passed the multiple choice, but got a 4 on the essay. Would the regrade generally be able to improve the essay score?

That's a difference of one point for each grader. Is it worth $35 to have a chance to not wait a full year to start over?

the_chavi
Mar 2, 2005

Toilet Rascal

TCD posted:

The way I read that, local hires could be really screwed during a possible furlough.

A cable came out this weekend saying that local staff would not be furloughed - navigating local laws would be too much of a pain in the rear end.

Supposedly we won't face cuts in hours until the start of the third fiscal quarter, so 1 April. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that in Tripoli our hours won't be cut. What could we do with our spare time, anyway...

the_chavi
Mar 2, 2005

Toilet Rascal

d1rtbag posted:

I just wish congress and the president could be forced to work it out. When a vital industry has a labor dispute, the federal government sometimes orders the parties back into negotiations; it would only be fair to lock our elected officials in a room, sequestered like jury members, until they work something out. 536 Angry Men?

This is pretty much how I feel - the children can't get along and there's no mom to make them play nicely with each other, or at least pretend long enough to get out of time out.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

the_chavi posted:

A cable came out this weekend saying that local staff would not be furloughed - navigating local laws would be too much of a pain in the rear end.

Supposedly we won't face cuts in hours until the start of the third fiscal quarter, so 1 April. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that in Tripoli our hours won't be cut. What could we do with our spare time, anyway...

Local Washington DC hires. Not FSNs or LES.

One thing to differentiate this from a gov shutdown is that this is managed reduce hours. I mean, if you can take annual leave, you can take a furlough day. I assume this is why FBI can say that all staff maybe furloughed.

TCD fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Mar 2, 2013

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

That email was so last minute. At any rate, good upon DoS for building that poo poo into their budget. Not that it'd impact me anyway.

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
I know some people offered to proofread PNQs. If they're due March 20th, by when would you guys want to receive them by? I don't want to send them out the day before or anything. Would you guys think a week is enough time for you to look at them? Ten days?

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deemickgee
Feb 25, 2013
Hey everyone. I recently passed the OA as an IMS and wanted to find out if the salary bonuses are still in place for eligible certifications?

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