Rhesus Pieces posted:

Holy poo poo, these people are loving brain dead.

I mean seriously, absolutely no thinking is going on whatsoever here. A Tea Party politician got caught sending out a horse-loving video, so we have to support our fellow patriot by sending out more horse loving videos?

A Winner is Jew posted:

I think a goon has either throwjizz@reagan.com or throwacid@reagan.com.

AsInHowe posted:

Needless to say, was I surprised when Republicans all decided to say stupid poo poo about rape? Of course not! Because when one Tea Partier does something stupid, everyone has to do it out of solidarity to ignorance. The issue of rape, something that has pretty much been decided in this country (it's wrong and evil), suddenly kept coming up as a talking point without any prompting. If a Tea Partier gets criticized, even if it's for something completely appropriate to criticize someone on, everyone else has to join in. Or you aren't a 'real American/Tea Partier/Republican/patriot'.

Walter posted:

He sure showed those conservative guys what's what by buying an offensive username from their pay email service.

Lord Lambeth posted:

That's loving bizzare. It sounds like something a shithead on 4chan would do, not someone who claims to represent traditional values.

Sydney Bottocks posted:

It's the "we must hang together, or we will surely hang separately" mentality. By doubling down on whatever lunatic thing one of their members says or does, they think it will present a unified front that will one day sweep them into power over both the executive and legislative branches. Pissing off all but the most delusional of voters doesn't even register as a consideration in their minds.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

Holy poo poo, these people are loving brain dead.

I mean seriously, absolutely no thinking is going on whatsoever here. A Tea Party politician got caught sending out a horse-loving video, so we have to support our fellow patriot by sending out more horse loving videos?

pacerhimself posted:

Not only that, but 'illegal immigrants' are not by definition criminals. Being in the US and not being authorized is not a criminal matter.

quote:

They figured that he wasn't one of them (he wasn't), so he must be a part of the vast conspiracy of everyone out to get rural white people.

SilentD posted:

Any hick who doesn't realize whites outside of his social class are predators out to screw him over at every single chance is a moron.

Sword of Chomsky posted:

It's like rural white people vote against their own interests or something.

Sir Tonk posted:

Maybe they should stop clinging to their guns and religion so much.

article posted:

Armed with plastic decoy pistols, the trainees broke into groups of four, each of which clustered in a diamond formation, which gives them a tactical advantage.

quote:

VAN, TX (KLTV) -
Van ISD Superintendent Don Dunn has confirmed an employee was shot during private instruction after a school district sponsored handgun training safety class.

Multiple sources, including teachers at Van ISD, and from the employee's family, tell us that the employee is Glenn Geddie, who works in the maintenance department for Van ISD. We can confirm that Geddie is at ETMC in Tyler, listed in fair condition.

Back in January, the Van Independent School District school board authorized "certain school employees and other persons" to carry authorized firearms on school property.

"We are going to go above and beyond on all out training," said Van Superintendent Don Dunn back in January. "We're going to start training immediately. It will be every employee who is approved to carry."

Dunn also said in January that they are all concerned something could go wrong with this plan, but the possibility of an attack on campus outweighs that fear.

Here is a statement from Van ISD:

At the conclusion of the CHL training on February 27, 2013, one certified person stayed for private instruction with the instructor and had a mechanical malfunction with his weapon. With the assistance of the instructor, the malfunction was addressed, but the gun misfired and the bullet ricocheted coming back to strike the VISD employee in the left leg. The VISD employee was attended to at the scene and transferred to Tyler for further treatment. The injury is not life threatening or disabling. Because of privacy and security issues we cannot make any further statement.

psychic chasms posted:

quote:

They learned to disarm and apprehend him while minimizing the risk to themselves and any bystanders

ufarn posted:

I am officially never going to a shooting range in the U.S.

FMguru posted:

The celebration party at the Friends of Hamas office got so out of hand, the cops had to come in and shut it down.

redshirt posted:

There's a gun store/shooting range near by that had a TON of Romney signs up for the election, so of course I laughed and laughed. Since the election, after the traditional 3 days of the flag at half mast for the Death of 'Murica, the owner has started putting up anti-Obama stuff on his cheap rear end sign out front. This week:

Line 1: Cling to your guns
Line 2: and Religion
Line 3: We buy guns


Sums it up, I think.

watt par posted:

Well at least their exercise in killing some kid in the near future went better than this one in Texas:

psychic chasms posted:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/341627/teachers-armed-guards-michigan-jillian-kay-melchior

The rascal fleet, it rises. A veritable phalanx of adipose tissue. Watching. Waiting. Breathing heavily in ordinary situations.

Zewle posted:

The rural areas of the south were crushed because their aristocracy got its poo poo wrecked by less horrid people. They've survived in 3rd world-esque conditions since, but we tried to be cool with them with the new deal and they went out of their way to vote for the dismantling of safety nets for the guys promising to stick it to black people. I think we spoiled them with the Tennessee Valley authority.

Crasscrab posted:

We need to synthesize guns and religion into one entity. Maybe tack something on at the end of the Bible about how God gave Man guns to be kickass and shoot poo poo?

psychic chasms posted:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/341627/teachers-armed-guards-michigan-jillian-kay-melchior

The rascal fleet, it rises. A veritable phalanx of adipose tissue. Watching. Waiting. Breathing heavily in ordinary situations.

Sir Tonk posted:

This looks like a scene from Police Academy.

New Division posted:

The idea that forwarding horse sex videos was seen as a good expression of Tea Party values even briefly cracks me up. Guess Mr. Hands was just a patriot who was ahead of his time.

Sir Tonk posted:

Speaking of odd stories, I didn't see anything about Woodward's emails today. Drudge was nice enough to grace us with his usual top story bluster and it really seems like Woodward has lost it.

http://wonkette.com/503654/bob-woodward-hereby-sentenced-to-remedial-journalism-school-for-treason-to-the-fourth-estate

Did Rushbo cover this at all? I don't think the Politco story came up until after his show, so he might have jumped on it.

National Review posted:

So now there’s a name and, inevitably, an acronym for it: military-sexual-trauma syndrome or MST. Military-sexual-trauma syndrome is that debilitating condition that befalls female service members who have allegedly been the victim of sexual assault by their fellow service members. According to the New York Times, female veterans are becoming homeless and involved in street life because of the post-traumatic stress that results from having been victimized in a military “that failed to protect them.”

Tiffany Jackson is the Times’ lead example. She says that she was savagely raped in the ladies room of a bar in South Korea by a fellow serviceman. She held a job “fleetingly” after leaving the military, but

Two years later, she had descended into anger and alcohol and left her job. She started hanging out with people who were using cocaine and became an addict herself, huddling against the wind on Skid Row here. . . . She grew up in a tough section of Compton, Calif., and served as a heavy equipment operator in the Army, exhilarated by her sense of mastery in a male-dominated environment. But after the rape — which she kept to herself, not even telling her family — her behavior changed. She assaulted a sergeant, resulting in disciplinary actions. Back home, she lost her job in sales after she passed out, drunk, during a business phone call. “It looked like I really had my stuff together,” she said. “But I was dying inside.”

She served three years in prison for drug dealing and finally confided in a prison psychiatrist, who helped her see that many of her bad decisions had been rooted in the sexual trauma.

Ms. Jackson now is on full disability compensation for her MST, though she was at first denied benefits.

A non-profit organization has teamed up with the Veterans Administration to create a support group for female vets with MST:

[The support group] incorporates psychotherapy, journal writing and yoga . . . Each class of a dozen women lives together for 12 weeks while spending eight-hour days at a women’s mental health clinic, “where you can cry and not have to encounter a bunch of men with your mascara running,” as [director] Katz put it.

One of its graduates, “Cindi, an officer in the Air Force with a master’s degree, said she had been bullied and ostracized by a female superior. After leaving the military, she had tumbled into a violent marriage and did not want her last name used for her own safety. She had been couch-surfing for a while. She grew up in a household brimming with neglect. In her workbook, Cindi drew an image of water boiling on a stove, representing her traumas, more powerful than her self-regard.”

Now here is a tentative alternative hypothesis: Some of these women come from environments that made their descent into street life overdetermined, whether or not they experienced alleged sexual assault in the military. To blame alleged sexual assault for their fate rather than their own bad decision-making is ideologically satisfying, but mystifying. Having children out of wedlock, as a huge proportion of them do, also does not help in avoiding poverty and homelessness:

Monica Figueroa, 22, a former Army parachutist, lived in a family member’s auto body shop in the Los Angeles area, bathing her baby, Alexander, in a sink used for oil and solvents until, with help, they found temporary housing.

Michelle Mathis, 30, a single mother of three, has bounced among seven temporary places since returning home in 2005 with a traumatic brain injury. Ms. Mathis, who served as a chemical specialist in Iraq, relies on a GPS device to help her remember the way to the grocery store and her children’s school.

Feminists claim (speciously) that a whopping one-quarter of college co-eds are sexually assaulted by their fellow students in college; I am not aware of comparable claims that huge numbers of female college graduates are as a result ending up on the street. (The difference between the outcomes for college graduates and vets does not lie in the relative availability of services: College rape crisis centers and hotlines are barely used.) I am not even aware of claims that victims of stranger rape are more likely to end up dealing drugs and homeless, but that evidence may in fact be out there. (I recently wrote about a tough-as-nails, pro-police building superintendent in the Bronx who was raped three times, including by her mother’s boyfriend as a child; she is only one case, obviously, but she was not on disability benefits or on the streets.)

But let’s say that for these homeless female vets, it really was their sexual experiences in the military that caused their downward spiral into, as the Times puts it, “alcohol and substance abuse, depression and domestic violence.” Why then have those same feminists who are now lamenting the life-destroying effects of “MST” insisted on putting women into combat units? Arguably, coming under enemy fire or falling into enemy hands is as traumatic as the behavior one may experience while binge-drinking with one’s fellow soldiers or as scarring as being “bullied and ostracized” by a female superior. Are women on average going to be more able to emotionally handle the former than the latter? Isn’t there a contradiction in expecting the military to “protect” you while it also sends you out to face mortal risk? And do the feminists believe that there will be fewer of these alleged rapes in combat training and duty? Perhaps they think that with enough multi-million-dollar gender-equity training contracts showered on the gender-industrial complex, the problem will go away. Or perhaps they think that keeping before us proof that the patriarchy is alive and well is more important than protecting women from “MST,” especially if that image can serve as grounds for remaking the military.

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The usual formula seems to be that a woman first gets blind drunk, then makes bad decisions about when, where, and with whom to have sex, then pretends it didn't happen at all, then, finally, long after all evidence one way or the other is long gone, decides that its expedient to claim she was raped.

posted:

Muslim countries are barbaric. I don't deny that. I also don't think that's necessarily a problem requiring our blood and treasure to resolve. That is a separate matter, unto itself.

In any case, sure. I'm assuming you're talking about the fact that Muslim women who are raped are declared damaged and potentially stoned to death. Yeah, that is barbarism. It is also one heck of a rape deterrent. A Muslim chick living under such a system will not, for example, dress such that her assets are all on full display, drink herself into a blackout, leave the bar alone at closing time, and go wandering off into the night (Which is exactly what happened in one particular high profile rape/murder case of which I am thinking...I think they eventually convicted the bouncer?). Is she avoiding this behavior to avoid the actual act of rape or is it more because she finds it prudent to avoid the repercussions, in that environment, of being raped or even, simply, exhibiting that socially unacceptable behavior that increases the chances of being raped?

Of course, none of these behaviors are an invitation for rape, but all of them would fall under the category of "Things women shouldn't do if they are looking to minimize the chances of being sexually assaulted and/or killed". You might not want to hear that, but it is truth. I know my own daughter will be advised to avoid such behavior and to take action to mitigate risk (i.e. don't get blasted out of your mind, but if you must, don't ditch your friends).

You might not like the fact that, in some countries, thieves' hands are amputated. It is barbaric. It is obscene. It is cruel and unusual. Even so, it is, also, an effective deterrent.

So, yes, in their perverse world where the rape victim is treated like a criminal, the women are well-motivated to avoid behaviors and situations that are conducive to being raped. Unpalatable or not, that is truth.

posted:

Hey, overactive moderator, want to clue me in on exactly what sort of violation of the commenting terms it is to express the opinion that a woman who first didn't avail herself of the obvious opportunity to summon help to stop the attack and then didn't report it as a crime may well not have been raped at all?

Unlike the people here who seem to believe that women are helpless incompetents who can't possibly be expected to either lift a finger in their own defense OR to prosecute a criminal who attacked them, I assume that any given women is a competent and capable adult until proven otherwise.

Exactly what is so offensive about the statement "If you weren't raped enough to report it as a crime you weren't raped enough for it to devastate your life" that you had to delete two of my comments?

I've expressed the same sentiment, if not in those exact words, before on similar threads without having them deleted. Its an affirmation of women as rational actors -- competent adults responsible for their own choices -- not a sexist insult. Assuming women are such wimps that they must cover up rape out of some perceived shame is the insult.

Alpha 1 posted:

God loving damnit National Review


This article was written by a woman

Alpha 1 posted:

This article was written by a woman

800peepee51doodoo posted:

If it was all the victims fault then it can't happen to meeeeeeeeeee

Sir Tonk posted:

Speaking of odd stories, I didn't see anything about Woodward's emails today. Drudge was nice enough to grace us with his usual top story bluster and it really seems like Woodward has lost it.

http://wonkette.com/503654/bob-woodward-hereby-sentenced-to-remedial-journalism-school-for-treason-to-the-fourth-estate

Did Rushbo cover this at all? I don't think the Politco story came up until after his show, so he might have jumped on it.


This looks like a scene from Police Academy.

Mercury_Storm posted:

Haha, how do they know the kid didn't look before crossing?

WorldsStrongestNerd posted:

If he had looked, he presumably would not have stepped in front of a car.

I'm sorry. I don't believe in victim blaming but that just bothered me.

psychic chasms posted:

The rascal fleet, it rises. A veritable phalanx of adipose tissue. Watching. Waiting. Breathing heavily in ordinary situations.