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I finished Battle of the Fang. Was pretty good, even if you know how it's going to end. I liked the Thousand Sons POVs and the portrayal of characters like Magnus and Bjorn. It was nice to see how Chris Wraight built his story on top of material from Prospero Burns.
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Schneider Heim posted:I finished Battle of the Fang. Was pretty good, even if you know how it's going to end. I liked the Thousand Sons POVs and the portrayal of characters like Magnus and Bjorn. It was nice to see how Chris Wraight built his story on top of material from Prospero Burns. The three books really do feel like one of the best set of books to come out of the Heresy. Thousand Sons > Prospero Burns > Battle of Fang are just too drat good when read back to back.
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Mechanicum finished! What a downer. One of the few Horus Heresy books where the non-combatant human POV isn't horribly killed. Also I have no idea who took the book. I wonder if they'll revisit Mars in the series. McNeill's competent in writing them.
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Feb 25, 2013 16:15
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McNeill seems to be getting better at writing, I'm pleasantly surprised given how terrible some of the authors are (and somehow, some of them seem to get worse).
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Feb 25, 2013 16:26
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Kinetica posted:McNeill seems to be getting better at writing, I'm pleasantly surprised given how terrible some of the authors are (and somehow, some of them seem to get worse). Eh. His best book is still one of his earliest (Storm of Iron). And he's produced some real poo poo lately too -- that Fulgrim short story, ugh. That said, he does tend to pull it together for major HH books.
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Feb 25, 2013 16:44
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Olanphonia posted:Did anyone read the short story prequel to Pariah called Perihelion? I'm wary of a $3 ebook from BL. I feel like it would probably be like 6 pages or something.
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Feb 25, 2013 18:12
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EyeRChris posted:The three books really do feel like one of the best set of books to come out of the Heresy. Thousand Sons > Prospero Burns > Battle of Fang are just too drat good when read back to back. Add in Emperor's Gift to get some follow up on Bjorn.
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Feb 25, 2013 23:21
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I'm almost done Scourge the Heretic and it's not bad at all. I was wondering if Sandy Mitchell could write something more serious than his Ciaphas Cain books. There's not much depth and holy poo poo does this guy like the word "diffident" but it's otherwise acceptable.
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Feb 25, 2013 23:42
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McNeill has some weird, squicky stuff. The Fulgrim story in The Primarchs was bad, but whenever I read up on the Ultramarines series, there's this Daemonculaba thing, which is utterly hosed up. How's The Outcast Dead?
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Feb 26, 2013 02:14
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Okay except for a comically massive continuity error.
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Feb 26, 2013 02:41
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What was it, I've managed to forget.
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Feb 26, 2013 03:05
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Lucky you. Alright here's the chronology as it should be: 1) Horus is Warmaster and loyal. 2) Horus becomes a traitor despite Magnus' attempted intercession. 3) Magnus immediately goes off to earth to warn the Emperor with disastrous effects for them both. 4) Horus does the Istvaan betrayal. 5) The Wolves are sent to Prospero to take Magnus alive but this is changed by Horus who says to kill them all. 6) Word of the treachery is passed to Dorn who arranges for a counter attack. 7) Dropsite Massacre. What Outcast Dead does is have Magnus arrive on Terra after the drop site massacre. Yeah, it's as stupid as it sounds.
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Feb 26, 2013 04:13
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Has anyone read The Death of Antagonis yet? Worth picking up?
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Pyrolocutus posted:Has anyone read The Death of Antagonis yet? Worth picking up? I've never heard of David Annandale, but if he's anything like most of the new crop of BL authors doing Space Marines Battles books it's probably not very good.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I've never heard of David Annandale, but if he's anything like most of the new crop of BL authors doing Space Marines Battles books it's probably not very good. This guy likes it though.
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berzerkmonkey posted:He did "Carrion Anthem" in an issue of Hammer & Bolter. I think I remember it being alright, though it's been quite a while since I read it - had something to do with Typhon and the Imperial Guard. He also did Yarrick: Chains of Golgoltha, but I haven't read that one yet. Hm. Well, I hope someone picks it up and gives a review for the thread!
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I think I have that Carrion Anthem story in my The Best of Hammer and Bolter Vol 1, so I'll give it a read. I might get the Yarrick book in the near future, too.
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I've got both, but I've read neither. I'll probably read Yarrick first though, since I hold no special love for the Black Dragons.
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Carrion Anthem's pretty good, if it's the one I'm thinking about. Bout how an PDF commander who doesn't have an ear for music and his attempts to defend against a Typhon engineered song that you can only sing if you hear it. Goes into how his attempted solutions are just as mad as the initial plague.
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Ardent Communist posted:Carrion Anthem's pretty good, if it's the one I'm thinking about. Bout how an PDF commander who doesn't have an ear for music and his attempts to defend against a Typhon engineered song that you can only sing if you hear it. Goes into how his attempted solutions are just as mad as the initial plague. That's an excellent story. It's well written and it plays out like a horror movie. I'd love to see it adapted as a screenplay, except the audio mix would kill the production staff and then eat our world.
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berzerkmonkey posted:I've got both, but I've read neither. I'll probably read Yarrick first though, since I hold no special love for the Black Dragons. Yarrick wasn't bad at all, I enjoyed it. If you know anything about Yarrick fluff there won't really be any surprises. Some of the non-Yarrick characters are basically one-dimensional plot props but I'm assuming as a fellow Black Library afficienado you're not too snobbish about literature 
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Pyrolocutus posted:Has anyone read The Death of Antagonis yet? Worth picking up? The gently caress. I thought names like Angron were bad, but that? Let me guess, Antagonis is the bad guy? gently caress BL, step up your game.
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Mowglis Haircut posted:The gently caress. I thought names like Angron were bad, but that? Let me guess, Antagonis is the bad guy? gently caress BL, step up your game. It's actually a planet. And you should know by now that anything short of "Badguy McBadderson" is considered good for WH40k books
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I have just finished reading The Emperor's Gift and one part of it struck me as I was reading. The part where the Inquisition orders the surviving guardsmen to be killed because of what they saw on the planet, there is this quote from the book: Primarch. Such a word, laden with the resonance of mythology. Angron. Lord of the Twelfth Legion. The wider Imperium could never be allowed to know the Emperor’s own sons turned against him, nor that the Grey Knights existed in the empire’s shadows, fighting a war against creatures that couldn’t be real. We spent so much sweat and effort ensuring even the most minor sins never reached the eyes and ears of Imperial citizens; the greatest heresies of all had long since passed into apocryphal legend. Having read the entire Horus Heresy so far, I was under the impression that by the point it was underway, most people knew that Horus was in open rebellion against the emperor. I realize that those events take place 10,000+ years before the time period of The Emperor's Gift, but it isn't as if they were living in the dark ages with no technology capable of recording what was going on. Also, what is the Emperor's gift? The ability to completely resist taint? Psychic abilities?
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It's being a certified badass so hard you can catch angron's loving axe in your goddamn hands edit: As much as I don't like the superhuman moments of bolter porn in BL books, that loving moment is golden. AAAAAARGH ITS SO loving COOL
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IratelyBlank posted:Having read the entire Horus Heresy so far, I was under the impression that by the point it was underway, most people knew that Horus was in open rebellion against the emperor. I realize that those events take place 10,000+ years before the time period of The Emperor's Gift, but it isn't as if they were living in the dark ages with no technology capable of recording what was going on. As far as I have noticed in read it really tends to vary about how much people are aware of the <REDACTED> Heresy from a non-Space marine perspective. The Dark Heresy core rulebook makes a mention of it at one point (with the included censorship of a certain Warmasters name) and I think the latest IG codex makes a slight mention of it as well at one point. But otherwise the general notion is pretty much what the quote says that the thing has moved into apocrypha and legends and only really known by the Inquisition and some Marine Chapters.
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IratelyBlank posted:I have just finished reading The Emperor's Gift and one part of it struck me as I was reading. The part where the Inquisition orders the surviving guardsmen to be killed because of what they saw on the planet, there is this quote from the book:
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IratelyBlank posted:I have just finished reading The Emperor's Gift and one part of it struck me as I was reading. The part where the Inquisition orders the surviving guardsmen to be killed because of what they saw on the planet, there is this quote from the book: Technology and recording interfaces degrade over time. 10000 years is a pretty drat long time; no matter how great your technology is, its going to degrade. At this point, I imagine its all hearsay and mythology, no different from our stories of the Trojan War. In terms of the Emperor's Gift, I was under the impression that it was the Emperor's "geneseed"?
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Arquinsiel posted:You know how no Christian ever blames Yahweh for making Lucifer a dick in the first place? Basically that. This is one of my new favorite ways of pithily framing the Emperor-Primarchs relationship.
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Shadowhand00 posted:Technology and recording interfaces degrade over time. 10000 years is a pretty drat long time; no matter how great your technology is, its going to degrade. At this point, I imagine its all hearsay and mythology, no different from our stories of the Trojan War. EDIT: I'm halfway through Yarrick: Chains of Golgoltha (it's around 90-ish pages) and so far, so good. Annandale certainly isn't a top tier writer, but the story is alright so far. It probably helps that I like both the Guard and Orks though. berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Mar 1, 2013 |
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berzerkmonkey posted:EDIT: I'm halfway through Yarrick: Chains of Golgoltha (it's around 90-ish pages) and so far, so good. Annandale certainly isn't a top tier writer, but the story is alright so far. It probably helps that I like both the Guard and Orks though. I'm curious what people thought of the segment where Yarrick became king of the Ork undersewer. That whole segment just seemed so weird and killed some of the pacing for me.
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If you want further reading featuring Golgotha you should pick up Gunheads, a really rad book on its own merits. It's about an armored regiment heading to Golgotha to (purportedly) locate and reclaim Yarrick's Baneblade.
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IratelyBlank posted:
I think, like much of ADB's titles, you can take your pick on what you think it is. It could be what you said. Or maybe it could be his geneseed, or maybe the Grey Knights themselves are the gift to the Imperium. Also, I picked the Antagonis novel. I started it, but I'm back to working full time and then some, so I haven't had a chance to really get into it. I like it so far, if only because of zombies and Space Marines that actually care about civilians.
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So I actually have an extra copy of Betrayer owing to some errors with shipping. Is anyone interested in buying it? If so, totally shoot me a PM.
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Has there been any news related to a new Gaunt's Ghost lately?
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And its gone now. Betrayer is amazing. Started the Death of Antagonis, its actually not bad for a space marine battles book On the gaunts ghosts front, apparently its the next thing up on Abnett's plate, but that means we may not see it till late this year or 2014
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I must be really bad at googling but I can't find what the first next books are we can expect from DA and ADB. Can anyone help me out?
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Mikojan posted:I must be really bad at googling but I can't find what the first next books are we can expect from DA and ADB. According to ADB's blog, he's working on a Helsreach sequel, Master of Mankind (HH), and some Black Legion novel. Unremembered Empire is Abnett's next Horus Heresy novel. Dunno if he's started the sequel to Pariah, though.
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Schneider Heim posted:According to ADB's blog, he's working on a Helsreach sequel, Master of Mankind (HH), and some Black Legion novel. He's also said that his Black Legion series might very well be his own Gaunt's Ghosts, as it begins straight after the Heresy but has the potential to carry on through the Black Crusades. poo poo's gonna be tight.
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