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Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!

raditts posted:

Even starting a computer normally is only a matter of seconds if your boot drive is a SSD.

I have an ordinary SATA hard drive and Windows 8 boots up in about 10 seconds or less. It's really neat.

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raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


XboxPants posted:

Yup! I'm glad there's one other person who has had an experience similar to mine.

I don't mind putting forth effort when it's worthwhile. But if another solution comes along that's simpler, well, I'm gonna go for that, right?

Here's the problem with your track of thought that you don't seem to understand - your proposed solution is completely inequivalent to the problem you had.
It's like the windshield wipers don't work on your car, so to solve that problem you drive your car off a cliff and ride a bigwheel instead.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

raditts posted:

It's like the windshield wipers don't work on your car, so to solve that problem you drive your car off a cliff and ride a bigwheel instead.

What? I'm still gonna use my computer. I can use both. I don't have to pledge my undying allegiance to a single platform or something.

Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?

raditts posted:

Even starting a computer normally is only a matter of seconds if your boot drive is a SSD.
I would say that it takes about half the time for my PC to go from power on to desktop as my Nexus 4 does. Maybe the same or a little longer from my PC that doesn't have an SSD.

I just built this PC, bought a SSD because hey it's my first computer I'm building myself, and it takes like 9 or 10 seconds from me pressing the power button to me at my desktop. 6 of those seconds are because I set the interval where you can press delete or something to get into the bios to be that long intentionally because I didn't know what I was doing and thought I'd need it. Coming from a hp dv series laptop I got as a graduation gift that I think somehow managed to overheat and kill itself slowly, it's pretty amazing.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I can remotely wake up my PC with my phone from anywhere in the world.
I can wake up my pc with a mobile android gaming device that cost me nothing on my contract.
Just let that sink in xboxduder

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


XboxPants posted:

What? I'm still gonna use my computer. I can use both. I don't have to pledge my undying allegiance to a single platform or something.

I look at your words and they're clearly in English, but somehow I can't help but feel like you're speaking a completely loving different language from everyone else in this thread.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

raditts posted:

I look at your words and they're clearly in English, but somehow I can't help but feel like you're speaking a completely loving different language from everyone else in this thread.

quote:

It's like the windshield wipers don't work on your car, so to solve that problem you drive your car off a cliff and ride a bigwheel instead.

How else can I read that "drive your car off the cliff" thing other than you think I'm going to get rid of my computer?

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

XboxPants posted:

How else can I read that "drive your car off the cliff" thing other than you think I'm going to get rid of my computer?

You either work in binary or are being purposely obtuse and you know it.

CaptainCaveman
Apr 16, 2005

Always searching for North.
Clearly he was talking about your car, not your computer. Why would you think he meant you were going to get rid of your computer when he said you would drive a car off a cliff?

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc
The most amazing thing is that it is rapidly becoming obvious that XboxPants has a decent amount of disposable income. Just buy an Xbox, dude.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

theflyingorc posted:

The most amazing thing is that it is rapidly becoming obvious that XboxPants has a decent amount of disposable income. Just buy an Xbox, dude.

He's already got the pants for it!

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

theflyingorc posted:

The most amazing thing is that it is rapidly becoming obvious that XboxPants has a decent amount of disposable income. Just buy an Xbox, dude.

What gives you that idea? By all accounts he has some pcs that are so old that his browsers crash regularly enough for it to be a bullet point on a list of his.
He also seems to poo poo his xboxpants if something costs $99 or more.
To me the guy must be one of two things:
1 - a genuine retard
2 - some borderline hobo who is desperately trying to justify the biggest single investment of his life to himself

Reverend Catharsis
Mar 10, 2010

quote:

He's already got the pants for it!

Your joke is bad, and you should feel bad!

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

peter gabriel posted:

You either work in binary or are being purposely obtuse and you know it.

Alright, I was being obtuse there. Normally I would understand that he just made a poorly-thought out analogy-joke that didn't actually make sense. Which, I mean, it's an internet message board, no big deal, I'm sure I've made poorly thought out jokes online too. And in real life. That's not something I'd hold against him or anything.

But knowing my reputation, I thought it was fairly likely that some people in this thread might actually think I was forsaking my computer in favor of the OUYA, so I wanted to make it clear that wasn't the case. Copacetic? :)

circ dick soleil
Sep 27, 2012

by zen death robot

XboxPants posted:

How else can I read that "drive your car off the cliff" thing other than you think I'm going to get rid of my computer?

I'm pretty sure he was referring to this:

XboxPants posted:

I don't have to pledge my undying allegiance to a single platform or something.

:ironicat:

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

XboxPants posted:

Alright, I was being obtuse there. Normally I would understand that he just made a poorly-thought out analogy-joke that didn't actually make sense. Which, I mean, it's an internet message board, no big deal, I'm sure I've made poorly thought out jokes online too. And in real life. That's not something I'd hold against him or anything.

But knowing my reputation, I thought it was fairly likely that some people in this thread might actually think I was forsaking my computer in favor of the OUYA, so I wanted to make it clear that wasn't the case. Copacetic? :)

Dude, thank you for being honest - I mean that.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.
Figured I'd give background on the PC situation since it's having a lot of discussion. As suggested, it's pretty much middle of the road I guess? Not middle of the road gaming PC, but just overall. Haven't upgraded in a few years. I did have a good video card, but that card ate it so now I'm using a spare one that.

So, here's the set-up:
CPU: Core i3 3.33GHz
Memory: 4GB DDR3
Crappy spare GPU I'm using as a temporary replacement

I'll make another post in a moment about the chrome thing, just wanted to break it up into two posts.

Reverend Catharsis
Mar 10, 2010
Eh that's not too bad, Pants. I can't remember if the i3 is worth a drat or not (I use an i7 quadcore myself because hey why half-rear end things when you're getting a custom rig) but IIRC all that should be pretty good for gaming?

Ludicrous G. Gibs
Jan 28, 2012

Drinks?

Reverend Catharsis posted:

Eh that's not too bad, Pants. I can't remember if the i3 is worth a drat or not (I use an i7 quadcore myself because hey why half-rear end things when you're getting a custom rig) but IIRC all that should be pretty good for gaming?

It would definitely play Pretentious Pixel Platformer 2013 or whatever the indie darling of the week happens to be. Hell, you could play some fairly recent stuff on a system like that, though probably not at high settings. Certainly it would outperform the OUYA.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.
Yeah, it handles games fine. With the better video card, I could run Skyrim with quite good settings. That was the last demanding game I've played much of. Even with that video card I can play modern 3D games decently. Though if I was playing a competitive FPS I'd probably have to turn the settings way down to keep things smooth.

Waaaay too much Chrome info:
Right now I have 29 tabs open spread across four windows. Here's the memory usage for that:


That's 2 gigs of ram used. It would actually be more; I usually have a Chromium session running, too, so I can have multiple accounts logged in. I have that closed right now, though... let's see, if I open it up and it resumes...

...that's another 13 tabs & another gig, for a total of 42 tabs and 3 gigs of memory being eaten up.

Now, 42 tabs wouldn't even necessarily be a problem. The issue is what's in them. The thing that leads to crashes is usually flash or something like that. For instance, if have a 30min+ audio or video open that is part way played through, and I have it left paused to keep my place, and then I leave that open for a few days, that might crash. Yes, I could just write down my place. Sometimes I do that, make a little notepad note or something. But sometimes I don't, so sometimes it crashes.

So, yes, I knowingly run my browser in a way that leads to crashes. That may sound insane, but it's not really a problem for non-gaming. Chrome handles crashes really well because of the way it's built. The crash generally only affects the tab that actually crashes. If I'm reading SA and a tab crashes and chrome gets unresponsive for a second or two, that's no big deal, but it would be far more of an issue if I was playing a game while that happened.

But, really, I kinda just said all of that as an background info. No specific program is the crux of the issue. The point is that on a computer, programs crash occasionally, and at unexpected times.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
You're the internet version of a hoarder.

Get ride some of those tabs before you get buried in crashes, die and have your corpse eaten by lolcats.

Phenwah
Feb 3, 2003


And it's not terrible! I use this exact keyboard for my TV PC; it plays well with Windows 8 and bridges that very important gap between logging into the computer and launching Big Picture, at which point I swap over to a wireless 360 controller and truly savor the "pretending my PC is a console" experience.

Phenwah fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Mar 3, 2013

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

FrozenVent posted:

You're the internet version of a hoarder.

Get ride some of those tabs before you get buried in crashes, die and have your corpse eaten by lolcats.

Seriously. If you were watching a video and left it midway, and then left it there for DAYS, you are never going to watch that loving video ever again. It's the equivalent of going "I cant throw that away because I might use that someday. Close your goddamn tabs man.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

XboxPants posted:

What? I'm still gonna use my computer. I can use both. I don't have to pledge my undying allegiance to a single platform or something.

OK so you're buying a Big Wheels as your second car and people are making fun of you for it because you won't shut up about how it gets great gas mileage. While technically correct, you're missing the point by about a country mile. How's that?

Edit: Jesus Christ learn to use a loving computer dude, your task manager makes me want to puke.

And yeah you don't have a problem with a specific program, you've got an obvious PEBKAC.

Dewgy fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Mar 3, 2013

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
Option 1 it is then.

Edit: part of my day to day is building websites and running online promotions / loads of other webby crap, everything I have to do has to be cross browser compatible and I have never, even on the busiest of days had a task manager look like that.

You are operating outside of the boundaries of normal / reasonable usage of your PC and you have no right to expect that poo poo to work the way you want and then complain when it doesn't.

peter gabriel fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Mar 3, 2013

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
I'm trying to run three hundred and fifty seven instances of Microsoft Word but it's making my computer run really slowly and using up all of my RAM. Time to go buy a OYEAH.

TheGreatGildersneeze
Feb 24, 2001
My passive aggressive shilling for Microsoft has gone beyond weird obsession levels. I have no attachment to reality outside of my feelings for a plastic box. I should shut my fat fucking mouth and stop trying to do PR for a billion dollar corp

XboxPants posted:

But, really, I kinda just said all of that as an background info. No specific program is the crux of the issue. The point is that on a computer, programs crash occasionally, and at unexpected times.
If you're using 90% of your available system memory it should not be unexpected in the slightest.

Also, AAA titles on major consoles crash/hardlock on occasion. What do you think's going to happen when they're programmed by armchair morons who want to be the "Ideas Guy" at a major dev studio?

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

XboxPants posted:

I don't have to pledge my undying allegiance to a single platform or something.

Isn't there a gif of an ironicat barfing up hundreds of other ironicats somewhere? I think that would be appropriate here.

Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot

XboxPants posted:

What? I'm still gonna use my computer. I can use both. I don't have to pledge my undying allegiance to a single platform or something.

Dont you, like, run a EUNOIA fansite or something?

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
I just want to remind everyone that xboxpants computer user name is l3reak.

Holy poo poo dude close some loving tabs.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦
The more I dwell on this, the funnier it gets. Does "crashes cleanly" mean "I should let it crash all the time because it's clearly meant to", GROOBLAPants?

Edit: holy poo poo there's multiple 100MB+ tabs in there what the gently caress are you even keeping open

Edit edit: I think this is the payoff we've been waiting for since the first thread, isn't it

Dewgy fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Mar 3, 2013

gay skull
Oct 24, 2004


XboxPants posted:

Right now I have 29 tabs open spread across four windows. Here's the memory usage for that:


I just want everyone to step back and think for a moment. This is the task manager window of a person who has been defending a shifty Android box on a forum full of people making fun of it for months now. Months. Without stopping. Any armchair psychiatrists wanna take a crack at him now?

caldrax
Jan 21, 2001

i learned it from watching you
I'm picturing him watching porn by opening up 30 different redtube windows at the same time and then frantically alt tabbing through them all at a breakneck pace until a completely hands-off climax is reached 2 minutes later.

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

Meat Recital posted:

Dont you, like, run a EUNOIA fansite or something?

Yeah, aren't you editor-in-chief at Ouyagamingsource? Nice kickstarter.

e:



:ohdear:

tight aspirations fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Mar 3, 2013

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
In just one screenshot he has 29 tabs open, I want everyone to try and think of 29 websites they'd like to look at right now.
It's loving ridiculous.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

peter gabriel posted:

In just one screenshot he has 29 tabs open, I want everyone to try and think of 29 websites they'd like to look at right now.
It's loving ridiculous.

And that's just because the task manager won't show more than that on a single page.

I will say this helps make a lot more sense out of the OUTTAHERE fanbase, all enthusiasts who love and use computers constantly but have no loving clue what they're doing with them.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.
I should mention that although I have 26 tabs open right now, I don't have anything else running besides notepad, a folder, and background apps like some google stuff and an antivirus.

I do a lot of stuff just through Chrome. I have a word processor, but I usually just use google docs. So, I have a bunch of google docs open right now that I'm actively adding stuff into throughout the day. It's convenient to keep them open. Lately, I've moved onto actually using gimp, but usually I just use pixlr.

In fact, only 8 tabs are just random bullshit like SA, or an article I want to read. The vast majority of it is something I'm actively working on and likely to use.

No, the real hoarder poo poo is my Read Later Fast queue. When a tab actually wears out its welcome to the point where I'm not likely to deal with it any time soon, I either deal with it immediately or it gets closed and added to that system where I can pretend that I'm going to go back and look at it again.

Also I do at least have the tabs organized into a few different windows, it's not one massive mess.

TheGreatGildersneeze posted:

If you're using 90% of your available system memory it should not be unexpected in the slightest.

Also, AAA titles on major consoles crash/hardlock on occasion. What do you think's going to happen when they're programmed by armchair morons who want to be the "Ideas Guy" at a major dev studio?

The OUYA will crash, too. But it won't interfere with anything else that I'm doing. That's the point.

XboxPants fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Mar 3, 2013

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
Jesus gently caress dude. Go see a shrink.

caldrax
Jan 21, 2001

i learned it from watching you
Yo, dude, you need 2 tabs for Google Docs: one for your list of documents, one for the document you're currently adding stuff to.

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codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

XboxPants posted:

The OUYA will crash, too. But it won't interfere with anything else that I'm doing. That's the point.

Didn't you spend like $200 on this thing altogether though?? Do you think that's a better idea than buying an Xbox or, as someone (everyone) has mentioned, managing your computer in a less ridiculous fashion? Seriously, I feel absurd with any more than four tabs open, you compute like an insane person.

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