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RazorBunny
May 23, 2007

Sometimes I feel like this.

Does anybody know what "muhagan" is? Google isn't helping. It was in the meat department of a grocery store in Kuwait City, if that helps. They had lamb, veal, beef...muhagan. It looked like a heavily marbled red meat of some kind.

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Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

Vagueabond posted:

Also, slow-cookers and chicken aren't really meant for each other. Slow-cooking is great for meats with lots of connective tissue - roasts, stewing meat, and so on - but not so great for things like chicken.



Wrong. Crock pot chicken is fantastic.

I always do it low for about 8 hours and I've never, ever had a problem. I don't know what went wrong with that guy's attempt.

Adult Sword Owner fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Mar 3, 2013

RazorBunny
May 23, 2007

Sometimes I feel like this.

Maybe his chicken was frozen a bit in the middle, so it didn't come to temperature in a safe time frame?

a dozen swans
Aug 24, 2012

Saint Darwin posted:

Wrong. Crock pot chicken is fantastic.

I always do it low for about 8 hours and I've never, ever had a problem. I don't know what went wrong with that guy's attempt.

Huh, okay! I'm vegetarian, and was going off of what I remember from a)seeing in threads and b)back when I used to eat meat. Correction noted, and thanks!

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

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RazorBunny posted:

Does anybody know what "muhagan" is? Google isn't helping. It was in the meat department of a grocery store in Kuwait City, if that helps. They had lamb, veal, beef...muhagan. It looked like a heavily marbled red meat of some kind.

Could it have been goat?



I think it's pretty commonly used in middle-eastern cooking.

Pookah fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Mar 3, 2013

RazorBunny
May 23, 2007

Sometimes I feel like this.

Pookah posted:

Could it have been goat?



I think it's pretty commonly used in middle-eastern cooking.

Entirely possible, and I didn't see anything labeled as goat. Next time I go in I'll probably just ask, but we were kind of just cruising through to get something else and I didn't want to stop.

I don't mind goat, I've cooked it myself a couple of times. Not sure if my husband would be on board, he doesn't even really like the flavor of lamb and goat is much stronger stuff.

It still feels really strange not to be able to buy pork.

mich
Feb 28, 2003
I may be racist but I'm the good kind of racist! You better put down those chopsticks, you HITLER!

Vagueabond posted:

Huh, okay! I'm vegetarian, and was going off of what I remember from a)seeing in threads and b)back when I used to eat meat. Correction noted, and thanks!

No, you were not that far off. Chicken breast is not the ideal meat for braising for the exact reasons you outlined. Chicken thighs are a good braising meat so are fine in the crockpot. They don't need 8 hours though, some people just have less than stellar taste and like overly mushy crockpot chicken.

Psychobabble
Jan 17, 2006

RazorBunny posted:

Does anybody know what "muhagan" is? Google isn't helping. It was in the meat department of a grocery store in Kuwait City, if that helps. They had lamb, veal, beef...muhagan. It looked like a heavily marbled red meat of some kind.
According to my Kuwaiti friend, it is lamb of a medium quality, between the rich, fatty Arabic lamb and the leaner lower quality Australian.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
Man, people love to poo poo on someone for making a mistake in here, huh?

Yeah, clearly something went wrong with your crock pot attempt. It's hard to say what, exactly - could have been the chicken, could have been the crock pot. Alternately, you may have just picked up a bug somewhere (though the chicken does seem the likeliest target).

It's unlikely you need to go to the doctor. Stay hydrated, though; food poisoning, if that's what it is, can sometimes take a while to move through your system. If you have any really scary symptoms, like blurred vision, or difficulty swallowing, or any swelling - that's when you head for the ER, do not pass go, etc.

Before trying anything like this again, what I would do is fill your slow cooker with water, and stick a thermometer inside. Keep track over a few hours what temperature the water hits, and at what times. After 3 or 4 hours, turn it off, let it cool, and do it again on high. You might have a funky issue going on with your equipment, and while water is going to heat faster and more uniformly than a hunk of meat, this can give you a baseline from which to work.

Alternately, to stay on the safe side, you could cook meat on high for a couple of hours to bring it up through a dangerous temperature range, then turn the unit to low and let it continue on from there.

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW
I found an end grain cutting board that I like at a price I'd be happy to pay, but it's rubber tree wood. Is that good or terrible or somewhere in between? My understanding is that maple is the best and bamboo is too hard, but other than that I don't really know.

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008

Pillbug
Can someone tell me more about pairing the proper type of rice, with certain dishes. Is that even a thing?

Other than obvious stuff like Arborio for risotto, and sushi rice for sushi, I just use long grain jasmine as the side for everything that needs it. It struck me walking through the rice isle, that with such a massive variety available, I have to be missing something. Are there certain rices that compliment a dish better, in the same way that there are pasta shapes/types that work best with certain sauces?

frogge
Apr 7, 2006


While we're on rice chat:
I've got a big bag of rice that's been sitting on some rubber mats for awhile. Now the smell of the rubber mats is gone, and when I open the bag, the rice smells like it now. I've had one bite of it and the taste has definitely been altered. Is it safe to keep eating the rice?

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

I bought a pork shoulder for pulled pork. When I opened the package it was positioned in such a way as to hide the giant piece of pork skin still attached. I removed it and dry rubbed the shoulder. Now the question is what should I do with the skin?
Seems like a waste to toss it but I'm not really fond of pork rinds.
Render to lard?
Here's a pic:

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

roast, put through food processor to crumble, and top salads with it, or fold into cornbread batter

blowingupcasinos
Feb 21, 2006
You're not fond of pork rinds?!

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
A recipe that I found and want to try calls for "Spanish rice". What's that? A certain kind of grain, or rice seasoned in a certain manner, or...? The recipe makes it sound like something you can buy in a discreet discrete package.

E: Is it "discreet" or "discrete"? Chrome says both are valid spellings :negative:

C-Euro fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Mar 4, 2013

tarepanda
Mar 26, 2011

Living the Dream
A package is discreet when it doesn't advertise the (probably embarrassing) contents.

A package is discrete when it's separate from other things.

mr. unhsib
Sep 19, 2003
I hate you all.
So I'm taking duck confit out of the oven in about 20 minutes - do I just take the duck legs out of the fat and serve? My roommate suggested crisping them in a pan for a bit first. Never made it before and I'm only really following vague instructions...

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

mr. unhsib posted:

So I'm taking duck confit out of the oven in about 20 minutes - do I just take the duck legs out of the fat and serve? My roommate suggested crisping them in a pan for a bit first. Never made it before and I'm only really following vague instructions...

You can either remove the skin, pull and serve, or sear the skin in hot fat and serve that way. The latter is the more exciting way to go.

mr. unhsib
Sep 19, 2003
I hate you all.
Going for the latter. Thanks man :)

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

C-Euro posted:

A recipe that I found and want to try calls for "Spanish rice". What's that? A certain kind of grain, or rice seasoned in a certain manner, or...? The recipe makes it sound like something you can buy in a discreet discrete package.

E: Is it "discreet" or "discrete"? Chrome says both are valid spellings :negative:

I've always known Spanish rice as the rice you get served in americanized Mexican restaurants (aka Mexican rice). It's basically rice that's been toasted in fat, and cooked with chicken stock and some tomato paste and garlic/onions. Some times peas/carrots are put in it. You can either use medium or long grain rice, based on preference. The packaged stuff is usually over spiced with weird taco seasoning stuff and is pretty terrible, so please don't use that.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Doom Rooster posted:

Can someone tell me more about pairing the proper type of rice, with certain dishes. Is that even a thing?

Other than obvious stuff like Arborio for risotto, and sushi rice for sushi, I just use long grain jasmine as the side for everything that needs it. It struck me walking through the rice isle, that with such a massive variety available, I have to be missing something. Are there certain rices that compliment a dish better, in the same way that there are pasta shapes/types that work best with certain sauces?

Use calrose all the time, every time.

tarepanda
Mar 26, 2011

Living the Dream

Mr. Wiggles posted:

Use calrose all the time, every time.

no koshihikari no life

pile of brown
Dec 31, 2004
Use wild rice if you want it to take forever and be chewy and taste like flowers

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

pile of brown posted:

Use wild rice if you want it to take forever and be chewy and taste like flowers

Wild rice is amazing, how are you messing that up?

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

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What's the best brand of soy sauce? I just switched to kikkomans away from store brand and have been very impressed with it each time I used it. Near the bottom of the bottle now though and wonder if even better stuff exists.

a dozen swans
Aug 24, 2012

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:

What's the best brand of soy sauce? I just switched to kikkomans away from store brand and have been very impressed with it each time I used it. Near the bottom of the bottle now though and wonder if even better stuff exists.

The correct answer is to stop using Japanese soy sauce and buy a bottle of ABC brand kecap manis. Really, though, it's subjective - different sauces will have different ratios of flavours, and will each have their proponents and detractors (as long as they're good in the first place, of course!).

edit: I do think you might like to try a Chinese soy sauce, they're often deeper in flavour than the light japanese sauce in Kikkoman's. You may find this blog post helpful.

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I'm sure other posters will have their own recommendations, but I find that a)kecap manis has a more complicated-and to my tongue, better-flavour than Chinese or especially Japanese soy sauces, and that b)I prefer ABC to the other bottled varieties I've tried (though perhaps I'm not the best judge, as I have a friend who makes her own and will generally give me a small bottle when I visit).

a dozen swans fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Mar 4, 2013

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

MAYBE DON'T STEAL BEER FROM GOONS?

CHEERS!
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Vagueabond posted:

The correct answer is to stop using Japanese soy sauce and buy a bottle of ABC brand kecap manis. Really, though, it's subjective - different sauces will have different ratios of flavours, and will each have their proponents and detractors (as long as they're good in the first place, of course!).

Then I guess I'll try the one you suggested. I was unaware that soy sauce could have more dimensions than "salty" and "kinda umami?". Suddenly it actually makes sense to use soy as a condiment rather than just as an umami booster to add in to other things.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
Kecap manis is really sweet, molasses like stuff - be sure it's what you want. As for brands, I normally buy a locally made brand called Sumi, but I don't know how wide their distribution is. Yamasa is also good. These are Japanese style, but that's what you think of when you think of "soy sauce". If you want to move over to the Chinese varieties, try the kinds made by Pearl River Bridge.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
My favorite soy sauce is Kimlan. Unfortunately they have like 10 different varieties and I only seem to get the one I really like a third of the time.

Turkeybone
Dec 9, 2006

:chef: :eng99:
Yeah... kecap manis (ketchup mayonnaise???) is kind of a different animal, so take that into account. But yes ABC brand, for that, is where it's at.

There's actually a few variations of soy sauce, each with its own nuance and use: light, dark, sweet, and mushroom. I too vote for Pearl River Bridge as far as "I'm white and I like this." It is a solid choice.

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:

What's the best brand of soy sauce? I just switched to kikkomans away from store brand and have been very impressed with it each time I used it. Near the bottom of the bottle now though and wonder if even better stuff exists.

The problem I've found is that, since there's very different varieties of soy sauce, Kikkoman's and one other (really bad brand, I don't remember the name but it's blue and red packaging and is the soy sauce 7-11 would carry) are the only bottles I can read at H-Mart. I'm sure that there are better of all varieties, but I go with Kikkoman's because I know what I'm getting and in low sodium.

a dozen swans
Aug 24, 2012
Yeah, kecap manis is definitely different and sweeter. I still think people wanting to learn more about soy sauce in general should get some, because even if it's not to their taste it's a direct education in just how varied soy sauce can be.

I use it often in recipes that don't call for it, but I did grow up eating it. That and the more Japanese-style kecap asin are my two go-tos, ABC brand for both.

Saint Darwin, do you not have an Asian supermarket near you? (e: also you might be thinking of La Choy soy sauce, which is lovely chemical-fermented swill?)

a dozen swans fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Mar 4, 2013

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

MAYBE DON'T STEAL BEER FROM GOONS?

CHEERS!
(FUCK YOU)
I think I'm just going to have to buy an armload of soy sauces at this rate. Not a problem since I've just gotten my hands on a burner and wok to do some proper stir fry with.

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

Vagueabond posted:

Saint Darwin, do you not have an Asian supermarket near you? (e: also you might be thinking of La Choy soy sauce, which is lovely chemical-fermented swill?)

I do, I go to H Mart way more often than supermarkets, even though their meat cut selection is less thrilling. Most things in H Mart are languages I can't understand (at least I can fake the Spanish on Hispanic products [it's in a Hispanic neighborhood])

Yeh, La Choy is what I'm thinking of. I knew I liked Kikkoman's as a kid, but when I got an apartment in college and started cooking I got La Choy. It's disgusting, it's the same fake soy sauce that they put in take out packets. I think I used half of the smallest bottle before throwing it out. Never, ever try that poo poo with sushi

Adult Sword Owner fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Mar 4, 2013

Turkeybone
Dec 9, 2006

:chef: :eng99:
I'm trying to think of the restaurant recipes that I/we used kecap manis for. I think we would like dry-fry green beans and toss them at the end (like 15 seconds later) with some mix of kecap manis and sesame seeds. I think also with some Korean-ish noodle dish with short ribs, too.

a dozen swans
Aug 24, 2012

Turkeybone posted:

I'm trying to think of the restaurant recipes that I/we used kecap manis for. I think we would like dry-fry green beans and toss them at the end (like 15 seconds later) with some mix of kecap manis and sesame seeds. I think also with some Korean-ish noodle dish with short ribs, too.

I know I probably shouldn't, but I've used it every single time I've red-braised something. It gives a bit of richness and deepness to the sauce.

LTBS
Oct 9, 2003

Big Pimpin, Spending the G's
I'm trying to make a dish tonight that is comprised completely of mushrooms. I have two portabella caps, about a dozen baby portabellas, and some fresh shiitakes. I was planning on dry roasting some, and possibly searing or grilling the caps (in a grill pan, supposed to rain tonight so no actual grill).

I have access to just about anything you could think of, but would like to have it not take more than about 2 hours if that is possible. There is a great market near where I work that has just about any type of ingredient. It's an "ethnic food" market so it has Mexican, Middle Eastern, Asian, and MURICAN if needed.

Any suggestions?

Squashy Nipples
Aug 18, 2007

My go to soy sauce is Yamasa (Japanese style).

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Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

Pearl Bridge is the best soy sauce.

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