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The accelerationist part of me wants Australia to keep going down this path to see how much they can crash and burn. The Ashes are going to be glorious.
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Doctor Cave posted:The accelerationist part of me wants Australia to keep going down this path to see how much they can crash and burn. The Ashes are going to be glorious. They say you have to hit rock bottom before you can rise up.
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Mar 5, 2013 07:50
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This might be my favourite thing to ever happen in cricket. 2 more innings defeats to go.
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Mar 5, 2013 07:56
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VOTE1 posted:Wow, that's a belting. But really what do you do? Good list. I'd say Khawaja hasn't been given a proper chance. He was brought in when Ponting was injured, and the expectations around him were built up. New players should come in at 6 and be allowed time to prove themselves. Throwing in Hughes at opener and having had it work (for a few test at least) ruined that philosophy. It's time Australia went back to that. Haddin, for the record, wasn't dropped. He had to return home due to a family issue and was not brought back in. I still believe he's better right now than Wade is, and no, I'm not his Mum. My team for the next test would be: Cowan, Warner, Clarke, Watson, Khawaja, Hughes, Wade, Starc, Pattinson, Siddle and Lyon. Ideally, I'd bring back Hussey (gently caress Clarke if he can't handle it) and drop Hughes. Henriques might have the poise and ability for this level, so can maybe slot in instead of Watson or Hughes, but Maxwell definitely is nowhere near that and neither is Doherty. However, which players are picked isn't the real issue. Australia has picked up all this fluffy philosophy (probably from Buchanan) and it sadly hasn't changed with Arthur. New ideals such as being a positive to the team, aggressive, try-hard and other bullshit have prevailed over skill, and a winning attitude. That a player like Wade can be in any way pleased with himself after the 1st innings is a disgrace. That a baggy green is earned as cheaply as Maxwell has earned his is a travesty. That Arthur can go and give the press conference he did after day one should be sackable. These guys keep finding positives where there are none to be found. There's a whole lot of bullshit flying around and in the meantime, the players are getting used to the idea that it's OK to lose. As Damien Martyn tweeted, the batsmen should be made to bat out the rest of the day on that pitch against the Aussie spinners. Hell, I'd make them come in and do it all day tomorrow too.
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Mar 5, 2013 07:59
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The next match is in Mohali, which is generally the best place in India to get swing. The Aussies should do better there unless they do something like dropping Pattinson.
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Mar 5, 2013 08:16
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Cricinfo Tweet :quote:Michael Clarke confirms that he will move up the order in the third Test
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Mar 5, 2013 08:28
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Anarkii posted:Cricinfo Tweet : :facepalm: He really shouldnt have to - and the stats say it wont work. But he's literally the only player with a clue at the moment so... LOLstralia are so hosed for the Ashes.
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Mar 5, 2013 08:35
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It doesn't matter since there is no Hussey in the team to make a decent partnership.
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Unimpressed posted:Good list. I'd say Khawaja hasn't been given a proper chance. He was brought in when Ponting was injured, and the expectations around him were built up. New players should come in at 6 and be allowed time to prove themselves. Throwing in Hughes at opener and having had it work (for a few test at least) ruined that philosophy. It's time Australia went back to that. Haddin, for the record, wasn't dropped. He had to return home due to a family issue and was not brought back in. I still believe he's better right now than Wade is, and no, I'm not his Mum. Can we just bestow a citizenship on Monty for the tour so he can play for us instead of the poms?
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Mar 5, 2013 08:49
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Unimpressed posted:As Damien Martyn tweeted, the batsmen should be made to bat out the rest of the day on that pitch against the Aussie spinners. What happens when a moveable force encounters a stoppable object?
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Mar 5, 2013 09:36
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Anarkii posted:Cricinfo Tweet : It's about drat time. Somebody getting dropped?
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I'm going to guess the selectors will be too stupid to drop someone. They'll put Watson at opener, Cowan at 3, Clarke at 4 and then Hughes at 5. Then they will be confused when everybody gets out anyway.
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Mar 5, 2013 09:54
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This is how I remember being an England fan was in the 1990s. Clarke is your version of Thorpe, and then you can rage about how bad all of the rest of the batsmen are but in the end there isn't anyone better available.
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Hahahaha we suck. I see us losing this 3-1, beating India in a meaningless 4th test and the selectors patting themselves on the back saying "Great job, we have saved the team".
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Mar 5, 2013 10:07
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Anarkii posted:Cricinfo Tweet : Well well well. I guess us English lads were right all along then.
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Mar 5, 2013 10:25
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The 4th test is in Delhi where India hasn't lost in 25 years. As someone said, Mohali (3rd test) is the best bet to salvage anything out of this tour.
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Mar 5, 2013 10:26
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serious gaylord posted:Well well well. I guess us English lads were right all along then. The best thing is now they'll be torn between wanting Clarke to still be amazing but not wanting us to be right.
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Lionel RichTea posted:The best thing is now they'll be torn between wanting Clarke to still be amazing but not wanting us to be right. But the stats lionel. The stats say a really good batsmen is crap in a spot he hasnt played in for years since he got quite good at hitting the ball.
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Mar 5, 2013 11:22
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If Clarke moves up the order and hits a century this thread is going to catch fire
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Hyperriker posted:If Clarke moves up the order and hits a century this thread is going to catch fire Woulda scored a double at 5.
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Mar 5, 2013 13:08
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Does it really matter where he bats if the rest of the team scores 80 between them?
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Mar 5, 2013 13:35
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Yeah, it all seems very deckchairs on the Titanic to me. I guess it might help a bit, but I don't think many of the Australian failures on this tour had much to do with the scoreboard. If it does have a beneficial effect, it might be in giving Clarke more partners to bat with and/or the Australian tail somebody who knows how to bat with the tail. ...of course that would require the Australian tail not to be 10 long, but details.
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Mar 5, 2013 14:26
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I will never not enjoy Australia being poo poo. They will never reach the West Indies level. It will be glorious fiveever and always.
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Mar 5, 2013 18:31
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serious gaylord posted:Well well well. I guess us English lads were right all along then. Woah completely unprecedented
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Mar 5, 2013 18:36
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I cant wait till someone posts some more meaningless numbers about why your best batsmen should in the tail.
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serious gaylord posted:I cant wait till someone posts some more meaningless numbers about why your best batsmen should in the tail. I'm waiting for the annoyed reply to this post exclaiming that 5 isn't the tail, so that we can truly reach a youtube comments level of discourse on the topic
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Hyperriker posted:I'm waiting for the annoyed reply to this post exclaiming that 5 isn't the tail, so that we can truly reach a youtube comments level of discourse on the topic EJM Cowan c Sehwag b Jadeja 44 176 150 6 0 29.33 DA Warner b Ashwin 26 72 56 3 1 46.42 PJ Hughes b Ashwin 0 12 9 0 0 0.00 SR Watson c †Dhoni b Sharma 9 42 35 0 1 25.71 MJ Clarke* b Jadeja 16 39 31 0 1 51.61 MS Wade† c Sehwag b Ashwin 10 45 28 1 0 35.71 MC Henriques run out (Jadeja) 0 5 4 0 0 0.00 GJ Maxwell lbw b Ashwin 8 16 22 1 0 36.36 PM Siddle c Kohli b Jadeja 4 12 14 0 0 28.57 JL Pattinson lbw b Ashwin 0 24 27 0 0 0.00 XJ Doherty not out 1 22 26 0 0 3.84 Pretty sure the tail starts after the openers (being kind to Warner) [edit] Clarke beat extras though, a true captains knock
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Mar 5, 2013 21:31
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Im imagining that team against South Africa and I'm doing massive lols. Then I imagine the likely England team against South Africa and still cant stop laughing.
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Mar 5, 2013 21:33
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Swann is injured. Monty for MotM, calling it now.
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Mar 5, 2013 22:52
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goatface posted:Swann is injured.
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Mar 5, 2013 22:54
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What is this anyway? England have already won the odi and twenty20 series. Why are they still there?
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Mar 5, 2013 22:55
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Stamina training.
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Mar 5, 2013 22:57
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Large swathes of the country are experiencing a 50 year drought and yet the first test is off for rain. Cool.
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Ratios and Tendency posted:Large swathes of the country are experiencing a 50 year drought and yet the first test is off for rain. Cool. It's Dunedin, the Swansea of New Zealand (it's not nice enough to be the Edinburgh)
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Mar 5, 2013 23:02
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Looks like the Kiwi plan for not losing the test series is coming along nicely.
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Mar 5, 2013 23:06
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Instead of cricket we get a 20 minute interview with Broad.
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Mar 5, 2013 23:13
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TMS are talking about chuckers.
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Mar 5, 2013 23:17
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This test is going to be a draw. The outfield has poo poo drainage so they're saying there might not be any play today unless it stops raining right now.
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Yaaaaaaaaay. Top job lads. Might as well let the sheep back onto the field.
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